Cable Forum - Coronavirus (OLD)

I posted something similar weeks ago. There was piece questioning whether it was worth taking the economy and piling up huge debt to save what might only be a few hundred thousand people.

I suppose choosing not to sacrifice the vulnerable is what makes us human.

It's also about the knock-on impact of the NHS overwhelmed by those hundreds of thousands of people which would certainly lead to other deaths elsewhere. You don't know for sure how high that death toll would be.

Mr K	07-04-2020 14:25

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36030759)

Yes it was rubbish then and it is now. 'only few hundred thousand people dead' ???

As I think Hugh said, the economy has collapsed and recovered before, unlike dead people.

Chris

07-04-2020 14:40

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36030763)

Yes it was rubbish then and it is now. 'only few hundred thousand people dead' ???

As I think Hugh said, the economy has collapsed and recovered before, unlike dead people.

It’s Easter this Sunday ;)

Pierre

07-04-2020 14:47

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It’s Easter this Sunday ;)

Someone else that came out when he wasn't supposed to!

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'only few hundred thousand people dead' ???
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300,000, for example, using cold numbers, is a tiny fraction of the population.

jonbxx

07-04-2020 14:53

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I’m not questioning any of that. Simply the practicality of some of the specific suggestions Viners has made around the partial reopening of schools, which betray a complete lack of understanding of how British school premises are designed and utilised, and how children behave when they’re denied the chance to blow off steam in the playground.

Missus is volunteering at the local key workers school where the staff/pupil ratios, maximum room occupancy and other infection control measures are absolutely insane (in a good way). The building is a school with a capacity of a little under 200 and it is presently able to accommodate something like 40 children in order for social distancing to be maintained.

I agree that in the current form, schools could not perform the social distancing done by Taiwan which included staggered classes and children not moving from room to room but the teachers coming to their class instead (actually my daughters secondary school does do this for their first year) But it is food for thought that there are possibilities out there that have been shown to work.

Staggered classes does sound like an interesting concept. For example, let Years 9 and 11 (4th year and lower 6th of secondary school in old money) start sooner to crack on with their GCSEs and A levels and let other years go part time, maybe one day a week each in the first instance (Years 10 and 12 have finished now of course)

Mr K	07-04-2020 14:54

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36030767)

300,000, for example, using cold numbers, is a tiny fraction of the population.

And if one of them is a relative of yours? (one of the ones you like that is ;) ). 300k deaths would affect a lot more people than the 300k. Some things you can't put a price on.

jfman

07-04-2020 14:56

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36030767)

Someone else that came out when he wasn't supposed to!

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300,000, for example, using cold numbers, is a tiny fraction of the population.

It may well be a tiny fraction of the population but you are ignoring the economic impact of Coronavirus before lockdown.

Consumer confidence tanks if you tell people there's a chance that they, or their loved ones, could die unnecessarily. Added on top millions of infections, sick leave and people taking time off to look after ill family members and kids.

At a global level the economy is a big pozni scheme anyway. States can easily underwrite people's living standards through lockdown and everyone comes out the other side with the same job and wealth as before if they really wanted to. However, as Moggs investment firm pointed out, there's money to be made during a crisis.

Chris

07-04-2020 17:42

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For the Nth time: members should NOT insert their replies to other members, within quoted posts. It needlessly messes up message threading and confuses ongoing discussion.

vBulletin's quoting and replying functions are literally decades old and extremely well understood by everyone here. PLEASE STICK TO THEM. They are not beneath you.

Pierre

07-04-2020 17:58

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36030770)

And if one of them is a relative of yours? (one of the ones you like that is ;) ). 300k deaths would affect a lot more people than the 300k. Some things you can't put a price on.

I know that, I wasn’t advocating the premise. But on cold hard numbers....................In a cold hard world. Anyway it’s a side discussion I’m happy to leave here.

Hom3r

07-04-2020 18:03

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Yeah let's pull the plug on Boris now and just open the pubs.

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad:

jfman

07-04-2020 18:05

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:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad:

I can assure you Hom3r that I was being sarcastic in response to the post I quoted downplaying the seriousness of CV.

Certainly I've no intention of offending, and I hope you and your family are well at this time. Largely I was demonstrating contempt for this kind of article: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/113099...dering-online/

Paul	07-04-2020 18:22

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:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad:

Umm, I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm, otherwise there would have been action taken. :)

Sephiroth

07-04-2020 18:51

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The perils of sarcasm!

Mr K	07-04-2020 18:56

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36030818)

The perils of sarcasm!

Indeed, don't do sarcasm or humour on CF. It's banned, has been for years ;)

Hom3r

07-04-2020 19:00

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36030815)

Umm, I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm, otherwise there would have been action taken. :)

Sorry, I didn't get it.

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Not only does my mum have Covid-19, she has developed Pneumonia.

She only went in with loss of feeling below the knees, which is still on going.

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