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Mick 28-07-2017 08:29
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Just reading reaction from some Republican voters. They spewing venom towards the 3 Republican Senators. McCain especially. But saw one man say his Heathcare bills for his family have risen 5 x its original cost, says it's now $18,000 a year for his family of six. :erm:

Damien 28-07-2017 08:33
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35909565)
Just reading reaction from some Republican voters. They spewing venom towards the 3 Republican Senators. McCain especially. But saw one man say his Heathcare bills for his family have risen 5 x its original cost, says it's now $18,000 a year for his family of six. :erm:
Ok. How will the bills over the last three days brought costs down?

Mick 28-07-2017 08:51
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I'm not saying it did. The whole thing is a mess. McCain preached the day he came back that they never get things done because of Partisan politics, then he sides with the devil party by voting with them.

Hugh 28-07-2017 09:01
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35909565)
Just reading reaction from some Republican voters. They spewing venom towards the 3 Republican Senators. McCain especially. But saw one man say his Heathcare bills for his family have risen 5 x its original cost, says it's now $18,000 a year for his family of six. :erm:
Any idea how much he earned?

Low to middle income earners are subsidised under Obamacare.

http://www.financialsamurai.com/subs...act-obamacare/

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I'm not saying it did. The whole thing is a mess. McCain preached the day he came back that they never get things done because of Partisan politics, then he sides with the devil party by voting with them.
He said he wants to work with them to gain agreement.

Obamacare was based on Romneycare/Heritage Foundation research, but because it was implemented by the Democrats, Republicans tried to destroy it, .

Working across the aisles takes two sides, and Republicans spent the last 8 years saying 'No'.

Damien 28-07-2017 09:05
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35909569)
I'm not saying it did. The whole thing is a mess. McCain preached the day he came back that they never get things done because of Partisan politics, then he sides with the devil party by voting with them.
Surely he has just proven that he isn't partisan by voting down a bad bill even if that means siding with the Democrats.

This bill would have revoked the individual mandate and defund Planned Parenthood. Even Democrats accept Obamacare is flawed, even Obama has said it's flawed, but the core of it remains popular: people should have health insurance and have pre-existing conditions covered.

Instead of finding a way to fix it's flaws the Republicans sought to undermine the principle entirely. They're a party of small government and fundamentally do not believe the government should be involved in healthcare, which forcing people to get insurance is doing. They were caught between the desire to revoke it entirely from the likes of Rand Paul to people who worried about the consequences of taking away healthcare.

Trump, who promised a better Obamacare, seemed to show little interest in the detail.

Mr K 28-07-2017 09:05
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35909195)
Ironically enough, the first step in taking away healthcare from 22 million Americans was passed by the vote from a Senator (McCain) who was recovering from life-saving surgery provided by state-funded healthcare.
Seems McCain came good in the end. I've got respect from politicians from any side, that vote with their convictions and what they know to be right, rather than be bullied and tow the party line. Unfortunately politicians like this are in the minority, but that's all it takes sometimes, as our own PM will find out.

Looks like the Donald is hoping healthcare will collapse to teach the people a lesson. Nice of him ! So, no wall, no heath care reform, what else can this president not deliver ? His Twitter account should be suspended for being offensive, libelous codswallop, it'd be for his own good.

papa smurf 28-07-2017 09:10
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35909575)
Seems McCain came good in the end. I've got respect from politicians from any side, that vote with their convictions and what they know to be right, rather than be bullied and tow the party line. Unfortunately politicians like this are in the minority, but that's all it takes sometimes, as our own PM will find out.

Looks like the Donald is hoping healthcare will collapse to teach the people a lesson. Nice of him ! So, no wall, no heath care reform, what else can this president not deliver ? His Twitter account should be suspended for being offensive, libelous codswallop, it'd be for his own good.
President Trump given £1.2BILLION for Mexican border wall

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...epresentatives

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/27/po...ney/index.html

Mr K 28-07-2017 09:14
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its going to cost 15bn and how many bricks have been layed ? He'll need a lot.

Mick 28-07-2017 09:14
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35909575)
Seems McCain came good in the end. I've got respect from politicians from any side, that vote with their convictions and what they know to be right, rather than be bullied and tow the party line. Unfortunately politicians like this are in the minority, but that's all it takes sometimes, as our own PM will find out.

Looks like the Donald is hoping healthcare will collapse to teach the people a lesson. Nice of him ! So, no wall, no heath care reform, what else can this president not deliver ? His Twitter account should be suspended for being offensive, libelous codswallop, it'd be for his own good.
Actually, a 'down payment' think I saw $1.6 billion was approved by House of Representatives yesterday. The wall is going ahead.

Get facts right springs to mind, but always does with you. :rolleyes:

TheDaddy 28-07-2017 09:20
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35909575)
Seems McCain came good in the end. I've got respect from politicians from any side, that vote with their convictions and what they know to be right, rather than be bullied and tow the party line. Unfortunately politicians like this are in the minority, but that's all it takes sometimes, as our own PM will find out.

Looks like the Donald is hoping healthcare will collapse to teach the people a lesson. Nice of him ! So, no wall, no heath care reform, what else can this president not deliver ? His Twitter account should be suspended for being offensive, libelous codswallop, it'd be for his own good.
No locking her up, I seem to remember a long time ago on Larry king live he promised not to rename the White House if he ever became president, I'm confident he'll deliver on that.

Mr K 28-07-2017 10:16
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35909581)
Actually, a 'down payment' think I saw $1.6 billion was approved by House of Representatives yesterday. The wall is going ahead.

Get facts right springs to mind, but always does with you. :rolleyes:
No need to get shirty Mick ! Long way short of the actual amount or actually happening.

Have you ever thought of applying for the role of WH Press Officer ? The post frequently becomes vacant. I think you'd be good and fit the job criteria ;)

pip08456 28-07-2017 10:31
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35909586)
No need to get shirty Mick ! Long way short of the actual amount or actually happening.

Have you ever thought of applying for the role of WH Press Officer ? The post frequently becomes vacant. I think you'd be good and fit the job criteria ;)
If he did then we may get some facts rather than the assumptions you make.:D

Osem 28-07-2017 17:12
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If he did then we may get some facts rather than the assumptions you make.:D
Yup, pot calling the kettle black again. :D

Hugh 28-07-2017 21:59
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Chief of Staff fired.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40759132
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White House chief of staff Reince Priebus being replaced by General John Kelly, President Trump tweets

Damien 29-07-2017 00:32
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This madness can't continue, we're only 6 months in. Preibus was the main link to Republicans, he was the 'moderate' as it were. Is Trump just addicted to chaos and attention?


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