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TheDaddy 03-09-2014 15:37

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35726205)
No we wouldn't, we'd just come over to you seeing as it's apparently so easy to get in to England these days. Just keep paying those taxes please :)

Why do you keep portraying Wales and the Welsh as parasites dependent on English money Russ, I'm sure it isn't true, do you not like being Welsh anymore?

Pierre 03-09-2014 19:21

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35726264)
Why do you keep portraying Wales and the Welsh as parasites dependent on English money Russ

Because they are?

Russ 03-09-2014 21:45

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35726264)
Why do you keep portraying Wales and the Welsh as parasites dependent on English money Russ, I'm sure it isn't true, do you not like being Welsh anymore?

I'm as happy being Welsh as you are of being English. We're not parasites at all but lots of your lot like to think we are so I just play up to that ignorance.

Although it is quietly satisfying to watch the anti-Celt elitist English types get annoyed that we get free prescriptions and you don't :)

TheDaddy 03-09-2014 22:02

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35726346)
I'm as happy being Welsh as you are of being English. We're not parasites at all but lots of your lot like to think we are so I just play up to that ignorance.

Although it is quietly satisfying to watch the anti-Celt elitist English types get annoyed that we get free prescriptions and you don't :)

Half Welsh isn't it

Damien 03-09-2014 22:21

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Most regions of the UK, including those in England, are net recipients when it comes to tax receipts/government money spent. That's not how a country works. Large urban areas, or those with resources, tend to rake in the cash and outer areas do not. Cities do well, rural areas less well by that kind of metric. It doesn't matter.

Anyway Yes Scotland have denied that a Panelbase poll would emerge tonight showing Yes in the lead. This was speculated because Panelbase have been conducting a poll on behalf of Yes according to those being polled. Therefore Yes are simply not releasing it. Probably they haven't gained anything over the last one.

Small victories....

Derek 03-09-2014 22:27

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35726352)
Therefore Yes are simply not releasing it. Probably they haven't gained anything over the last one.

Small victories....

I wonder if the guessers will have the same outcry over 'secret' polls like they did when it was rumoured Westminster were sitting on a poll showing a lurch towards independence. :)

Another good debate tonight for the No camp. Souter is a homophobic, religious nut job who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a TV camera or microphone. Jim Murphy came across well and some yes lies we're shown up.

Admitting you would discriminate against English students pretty much purely because they are English even though its clearly against EU law was an own goal for the nats.

Damien 03-09-2014 22:34

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35726353)
I wonder if the guessers will have the same outcry over 'secret' polls like they did when it was rumoured Westminster were sitting on a poll showing a lurch towards independence. :)

Yeah think we know the answer to that. ;) Still it's perfectly normal for Governments or Campaigns to have private polls. This could have been a bad poll or it could have been an internal poll asking different questions the release of which would give insight into their strategy over the remaining weeks. Probably wasn't however because the people being asked seem to have been asked the standard lot according to the Twitter Yessers.

You can see their hopes being dashed here: https://twitter.com/search?f=realtim...lbase&src=typd

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Admitting you would discriminate against English students pretty much purely because they are English even though its clearly against EU law was an own goal for the nats.
I presume there is a official reason why English students don't get the same rights however? Probably because we would charge them?

Damien 05-09-2014 14:54

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...d-Kingdom.html

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Britain is 13 days away from being voted out of existence, and those trying to save it need all the help they can get.

MalteseFalcon 05-09-2014 15:11

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
No. No they don't. I'm pleased the yes vote is gaining ground on the no voters.

Hugh 05-09-2014 15:40

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
Well, I'm not - I don't want to see the UK broken up to satisfy Wee Eck's megalomania....

LondonRoad 05-09-2014 15:57

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35726720)
Well, I'm not - I don't want to see the UK broken up to satisfy Wee Eck's megalomania....

If I decide to vote Yes it will be despite of Eck and Sturgeon not because of them. There's a bigger picture ;)

MalteseFalcon 05-09-2014 15:58

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Just think we need to agree to disagree on Scotland Hugh.

Chris 05-09-2014 16:05

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Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35726724)
If I decide to vote Yes it will be despite of Eck and Sturgeon not because of them. There's a bigger picture ;)

Indeed there is, unfortunately Eck and Nippy will be holding the crayons if we vote Yes.

There have always been circumstances under which I could have ended up voting Yes, but what's on offer courtesy of the SNP fills me with dread. This should never have been about their particular vision of independence, but that's what it's come down to. I just can't trust them to do the right thing.

MalteseFalcon 05-09-2014 16:12

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So if the campaign wasn't being run by Salmond, would people vote yes rather than no?

Chris 05-09-2014 16:47

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We will never know!


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