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No it can’t.

Masks don’t stop you getting covid from an infected person including when they too, are wearing a mask. I’ve posted many times, I work in health care industry, I’ve caught covid 4 times, I’m jabbed and still wear masks. I’ve still caught covid. They don’t stop you catching it.

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They are meant to and do reduce the particles that come out of an infected persons mouth from going any distance though, which is the point of them.

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While I'm sure anecdotally there's examples of people mask wearing and catching it the overwhelming evidence is that it reduces the chances.

In extremely high risk settings this is more than offset by exposure daily, perhaps to multiple people with COVID and the weak guidance not mandating N95 or others in healthcare settings.

For the average person most likely to encounter incidental exposure - on public transport, or in shops - the marginal gains add up.

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This picture helps explain mask wearing simply

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My dad had his spring booster last Sunday, while there I asked about myself as I live with him, they said I should, but only after 6 months.

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Some good news
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-61436454

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If they had it, they shouldn't have gone out in the first place. Coronavirus was always highly infectious, and omicron is more infectious than the earlier strands. When you see people wearing their gappy masks, and many wearing them under their noses, a highly infectious virus will not be contained.

We are kidding ourselves about the effectiveness of masks. They are two flimsy and badly designed to be effective.

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This is the thing. The cloth and paper face masks will have a minimal effect and there will probably be an added behaviour effect too, such as people keeping apart, being reminded there's a virus by seeing everyone wearing masks, not going out if it's not necessary or if they're feeling ill, etc etc.



But the point is that they are badly used and that is partially down to the messaging which seems to have got out to some people as "if you cover your face it stops covid" or "if you wear a mask all the time it stops you getting covid" without giving any thought to selecting a mask, how to use it, how to store it, how to wear it etc.


The key point which gets lost in messaging about masks is that they are single use. Once you have put that mask on, it is contaminated for future use, and when you take it off it needs to be washed if it's washable or thrown away if it isn't and you put a clean mask on the time after. And to avoid transferring contamination between the mask and your hands (and then everything else they touch) you need to sanitise or preferably wash your hands before putting the mask on and after taking it off. Very few people did this properly.


The effectiveness of the KN95 and FFP2 as methods of preventing the virus spreading is a lot higher than with other masks but most people weren't wearing those as the FFP2s are both expensive and single use. And even in countries where they were strict about masks and type of masks worn such as in Germany, they still got spikes of the virus same as we did, which leads to the conclusion that whilst it may have potentially blunted the spike, it ultimately didn't stop it. What did was a combination of the vaccine and infection from a variant which generally isn't as lethal when people get it.


People who have an infectious disease should stay at home if they possibly can. Because them wearing that paper mask which they already worn for the last six months walking in the open air isn't going to have much effect on anything really.

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Except people are under no obligation not to go out anymore but you carry on preaching

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If you are going to wear a mask wear it correctly.Not just under your nose or even worse under your chin.

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Well, I know that, obviously. But that doesn't take away the fact that if you know you have a nasty, contageous virus, you should stay indoors and not spread it to everyone else. We don't need laws and government dictats to make that happen - it's common sense.

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How does anyone know without testing? What financial support is in place for those who have to isolate under your banner of "common sense"?

They don't.
None.

Thus completely unworkable.

As for Government dictats why is Boris on the front of the Daily Mail telling "millions" to get back to the office? I presume you oppose this call - it's for people and businesses to decide how they best work. Freedom, innit?

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The difficulty with covid is that unlike flu, for example, it doesn’t reliably cause nasty cold-like symptoms in everyone. It’s all very well telling people to stay home if they feel unwell, but what really makes covid spread is the large number of people who are completely, or substantially, asymptomatic.

That said, any symptomatic respiratory viral infection is unpleasant and anyone with such symptoms ought to be keeping their distance from other people. The cold and flu remedy manufacturers have done society no favours in this regard, as their advertising has for decades promoted the idea that the best approach is to deal with the symptoms and then carry on as normal.

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Now we know you're a wum, we couldn't get people to stay at home or wear a mask when it was legally mandated but now you think it's going to happen when there is no testing, no financial support and in a lot of cases no way of knowing if you have it because of common sense :spin: