Cable Forum - UK Energy Prices

Only if our gas-fired power stations are buying their fuel at spot prices, which I understand they mainly don’t. Fixed-price contracts will have to work their way through the system first.

Petrol and diesel prices should react more quickly though, and around here at least they seem to be doing so.

And there in lies the rub. The system created for and run by the corporate energy companies is a fix. We pay more in all situations. The system is so arcane and opaque, by design, so that most of the consumers are unable to understand and therefore protest about being ripped off.

We produce, on a good day, >50% of our electricity needs from wind. Yes, our wind on our land yet we have to pay the price of the highest input for this energy. The system, like many others, is deliberately setup to profit big business and their stakeholders. We are we so stupid in allowing this?

1andrew1

04-01-2023 12:43

Re: The energy crisis

Some good news

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British household energy bills likely to be lower after warm weather

Analysts sharply reduce their forecasts after unseasonably mild winter across Europe

British household energy bills are forecast to be lower than previously anticipated in 2023, dropping below the level of the government’s price guarantee in the second half of the year.

Analysts have sharply reduced their estimates for domestic energy bills after unseasonably warm weather across Europe in recent weeks has led to lower gas usage on the continent.

Martin Young of Investec bank, who has a record of accurately predicting the level of the price cap that dictates energy bills for the majority of British households, said he anticipates the cap to reduce to about £3,460 a year in April based on typical usage, dropping to £2,640 a year in July and hitting just over £2,700 in October.

https://www.ft.com/content/6d21f023-...8-1689fde2d05a

Paul	04-01-2023 14:00

Re: The energy crisis

Good old Global Warming. :)

Another few years and we wont need heating. :erm:

Chris

04-01-2023 14:33

Re: The energy crisis

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36143097)

Good old Global Warming. :)

It’s not just here for the nasty things in life like catastrophic flooding. It’s here for the nice things too. ;)

Itshim

04-01-2023 19:21

Re: The energy crisis

EDF strike again , on fixed rate till May just had a refund of £350 , over payment for the year . Put my standing order up ( double) based on estimate that I will use 2 times the power that I have in the last year ! Given that may be correct not likely but still, why give a refund and then take more each month

SnoopZ

04-01-2023 19:30

Re: The energy crisis

Still waiting for Bulb to cough up this months £67 energy rebate, maybe they're waiting for my £83 direct debit to go through first.

Jaymoss

04-01-2023 19:38

Re: The energy crisis

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36143137)

Still waiting for Bulb to cough up this months £67 energy rebate, maybe they're waiting for my £83 direct debit to go through first.

Mine is late off Octopus too. They have no choice though not worried

joglynne

04-01-2023 20:03

Re: The energy crisis

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36143139)

Mine is late off Octopus too. They have no choice though not worried

Octopus credit the energy rebate to your account when your bill is calculated/ your direct debit is collected. Or at least that how mine works.

Paul	05-01-2023 01:59

Re: The energy crisis

Delayed by the holidays perhaps ?

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36143133)

Wouldnt you rather have the money, than them ?

I would, which is why I switched to just paying what I actually owe each month, no big "credit" built up (i.e. them having my money).

SnoopZ

05-01-2023 14:41

Re: The energy crisis

Bulb has just rebated my account.

RichardCoulter

05-01-2023 16:08

Re: The energy crisis

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36143133)

I believe that, to stop them holding onto people's money interest free, the rules were changed a few years ago to require them to do this (once a year I think).

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36143154)

Delayed by the holidays perhaps ?

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Wouldnt you rather have the money, than them ?

I would, which is why I switched to just paying what I actually owe each month, no big "credit" built up (i.e. them having my money).

Does it work out more expensive doing it this way though?

I know that you can have Sky on a rolling monthly contract instead of entering into a contract, but it does work out more expensive.

Paul	05-01-2023 18:20

Re: The energy crisis

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36143195)

Does it work out more expensive doing it this way though?

Not atm.

Chris

05-01-2023 18:23

Re: The energy crisis

Some energy suppliers have a (slightly) more expensive tariff for customers who pay in full in arrears rather than a fixed amount direct debit, but not all of them do.

Paul	05-01-2023 23:29

Re: The energy crisis

Bulb may or may not do that normally, I dont know, but the cap limits what they can charge atm.

It remains to be seen what happens as we move to Octopus, although the cap seems to be in place for some time yet.

Jaymoss

05-01-2023 23:36

Re: The energy crisis

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36143230)

There will be a 20% increase in unit rates in April that I think runs for the year. There may well be small drops over the year and the hopefully 2024 will see lower wholesale prices.

Octopus do also give a small standing charge discount

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