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papa smurf 11-12-2020 09:48

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36061814)
This is the other problem with the fraud narrative from Republicans, what they're alleging should be easy to prove but they can't.

By far the most serious accusation that might have weight behind for Biden is those charges his son is being investigated for. Is Biden complicit? If I were the Republicans I would focus less on trying to invalidate the results of an election they lost, and in doing so thumbing their nose at Democracy, and focus on that.

This "election" will live in infamy , millions of Americans think it was stolen by fraudulent means, also people all around the world share that view. I will always view it as dubious, there are way too many people trying to brush the claims of cheating under the carpet without proper investigation, and of course the longer this runs the harder it will be to recover evidence should there be any to find.

Stephen 11-12-2020 10:02

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They have yet to find any fraud. After all their claims of it. The minority that believe there was fraud can keep thinking it if they want. Wont change a thing.

It didn't happen. Biden won.

Hugh 11-12-2020 10:23

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36061816)
This "election" will live in infamy , millions of Americans think it was stolen by fraudulent means, also people all around the world share that view. I will always view it as dubious, there are way too many people trying to brush the claims of cheating under the carpet without proper investigation, and of course the longer this runs the harder it will be to recover evidence should there be any to find.

Yes, those 50 court cases that found no evidence of fraud or cheating is indeed "brushing it under the carpet"...

1andrew1 11-12-2020 10:46

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36061823)
Yes, those 50 court cases that found no evidence of fraud or cheating is indeed "brushing it under the carpet"...

I think some people will only believe Trump has won if they got to count every vote themselves. By which time, the next election will be due.

Apparently, the US courts are not good enough for them.

Mick 11-12-2020 11:00

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36061803)
I’m pretty sure a lot of this stuff has been laughed out of court in various states already, and the first of them was dismissed at the Supreme Court with an unprecedented one sentence ruling. It really is time to stop believing the extremist nonsense from the GOP lunatic fringe.

Chris there is nothing lunatic about it. For 4 years we had extremist crap about Russian interference sponsored by Trump from the never Trumpers, so I couldn’t give a shit, nor do I apologise for believing Biden’s win is illegitimate.

Damien 11-12-2020 11:03

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36061829)
Chris there is nothing lunatic about it. For 4 years we had extremist crap about Russian interference sponsored by Trump from the never Trumpers, so I couldn’t give a shit, nor do I apologise for believing Biden’s win is illegitimate.

Why can't Trump prove that then?

jfman 11-12-2020 11:48

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36061816)
This "election" will live in infamy , millions of Americans think it was stolen by fraudulent means, also people all around the world share that view. I will always view it as dubious, there are way too many people trying to brush the claims of cheating under the carpet without proper investigation, and of course the longer this runs the harder it will be to recover evidence should there be any to find.

People "all around the world" believe Elvis is still alive.

1andrew1 11-12-2020 12:56

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36061836)
People "all around the world" believe Elvis is still alive.

He was also seen voting for Biden, wasn't he? :D

Carth 11-12-2020 13:01

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36061848)
He was also seen voting for Biden, wasn't he? :D

Postal vote . . . from 1,872 different residences

1andrew1 11-12-2020 14:27

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36061850)
Postal vote . . . from 1,872 different residences

One of which was a chip shop in Grimsby. :D

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36061830)
Why can't Trump prove that then?

Because it never happened and people are finding it a bit hard to row back from a story they once believed in.

daveeb 11-12-2020 15:22

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36061818)
They have yet to find any fraud. After all their claims of it. The minority that believe there was fraud can keep thinking it if they want. Wont change a thing.

It didn't happen. Biden won.

That just about sums the whole pantomime up nicely.

denphone 11-12-2020 15:50

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36061836)
People "all around the world" believe Elvis is still alive.

Strange how some who espouse the democratic will of the people don't seem to accept the democratic will of the people in the US elections...

Mad Max 11-12-2020 16:18

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36061881)
Strange how some who espouse the democratic will of the people don't seem to accept the democratic will of the people in the US elections...

Kinda sums up the attitude of some on here about Brexit. :)

denphone 11-12-2020 16:28

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36061890)
Kinda sums up the attitude of some on here about Brexit. :)

l think you will find the vast majority have accept the democratic mandate of the people but that does not disqualify them from having a view on all things Brexit or anything else as that is what a debating forum is for among other things.

1andrew1 11-12-2020 16:40

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36061896)
l think you will find the vast majority have accept the democratic mandate of the people but that does not disqualify them from having a view on all things Brexit or anything else as that is what a debating forum is for among other things.

Totally agree. It's a bit bizarre to say that because a referendum went one way, all discussion on the topic is henceforth banned. Especially as the referendum did not flesh out exactly what the decision meant, meaning it has been fleshed out and negotiated for four years.


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