Cable Forum - President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

The FBI said Wednesday that it has no evidence Hillary Clinton's private email server was compromised even though President Trump tweeted a news report that alleged the Chinese had hacked it.

Mr. Trump tweeted Tuesday evening about a report in the conservative Daily Caller that said a Chinese-owned company operating in the Washington area had hacked the server Clinton had used as secretary of state and obtained nearly all of her emails.

An FBI official said Wednesday after the Daily Caller story and the president's tweet that the "FBI has not found any evidence the servers were compromised."

denphone

30-08-2018 12:58

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35961750)

Sigh. Probably best if you and Hugh stop performing the same shit of dissecting every Trump tweet going. This is not what this thread is for. :rolleyes:

This thread is under consideration for closure, we are not having a running commentary on everything Trump says and does over the next 4/8 years. President Obama never had a running commentary thread.

This is no longer a viable discussion topic and has just become a rolling hate blog. This is not a blog site.

But is that not the same on several other political threads on this forum Mick?.

Mick	30-08-2018 13:12

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35961782)

But is that not the same on several other political threads on this forum Mick?.

Not to degree of the Trump thread.

...The direction of the thread is as follows:

Week 1, "Trumps a moron."

Week 2, "Trumps an idiot".

Week 3, "Trump's a imbecile."

Week 4, "He's lying again."

It's not a topic. It's just an ongoing hate blog - this is not a blog site.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35961780)

The FBI is denying the story from The Daily Caller about Clinton's server being hacked: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/no-evid...ised-fbi-says/

How would they know when they have repeatedly stated they did not examine it ?

Damien

30-08-2018 13:25

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35961792)

How would they know when they have repeatedly stated they did not examine it ?

Where did they say that?

Mick	30-08-2018 13:35

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35961794)

Where did they say that?

Comey.

Former FBI Director, James Comey said the agency never got access to the machines (Servers) themselves, so how would they realistically and conclusively know?

Damien

30-08-2018 13:45

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35961795)

Comey.

Former FBI Director, James Comey said the agency never got access to the machines (Servers) themselves, so how would they realistically and conclusively know?

You mean the DNC servers I think?

Mick	30-08-2018 13:48

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35961796)

You mean the DNC servers I think?

All of them - Her server is suppose to be missing, and or got smashed up along with her Blackberry's and other devices. Basically evidence was destroyed, so how does the FBI know ?

Damien

30-08-2018 13:55

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35961797)

All of them - Her server is suppose to be missing, and or got smashed up along with her Blackberry's and other devices. Basically evidence was destroyed, so how does the FBI know ?

I believe they must have had access to her server to recover the 'wiped' e-mails?

It was reported back in 2015 that the server was handed over: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...0QH01D20150812

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Democratic presidential contender Hillary Clinton’s attorney has handed over to the FBI the private email server she used while secretary of state, the Washington Post reported on Tuesday.

Citing a campaign spokesman, the newspaper said the attorney also gave the FBI a thumb drive with thousands of emails that Clinton had previously given to the State Department.

Either way though if they didn't access it then where did the story from The Daily Caller come from that said the Chinese hacked it?

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“The [the ICIG] believe that there was some level of phishing. But once they got into the server something was embedded,” he said. “The Chinese are notorious for embedding little surprises like this.”

Also the Clinton Server and the DNC servers are separate things. Where did the FBI say they didn't get the Clinton private server?

Mr K	30-08-2018 14:08

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35961792)

You could say the same about the Corbyn thread ...

Hugh	30-08-2018 15:11

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35961792)

They had it in 2015 - this article is from 3 years ago, from a non-political IT focused security site.

https://www.bankinfosecurity.com/int...-server-i-2839

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Now that federal authorities have custody of Hillary Clinton's private email server, how might they forensically examine it?

Clinton, who's campaigning to seek the Democratic Party nomination for president, was under pressure to surrender her email server to federal authorities (see Clinton's Email Brouhaha and Politics). She used the private server instead of an email account provided by the State Department while secretary of state. She's been criticized for putting government secrets at risk by using this private email server. Clinton contends that she never received or sent email messages labeled top secret, but the inspector general for the intelligence community says two of 40 messages he reviewed contained "top secret" information, although they were not marked as classified.

An attorney for Clinton says she has turned over the email server, along with a thumb drive containing email messages, to be examined by federal authorities to determine whether the privately-controlled server placed government secrets at risk

Lutherf

30-08-2018 15:36

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35961780)

The FBI is denying the story from The Daily Caller about Clinton's server being hacked: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/no-evid...ised-fbi-says/

Yes. That's an interesting denial too. While they're emphatic about not having found anything they're much more circumspect with regard to whether they actually looked for such evidence.

Hugh	30-08-2018 17:07

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Originally Posted by Lutherf (Post 35961812)

Yes. That's an interesting denial too. While they're emphatic about not having found anything they're much more circumspect with regard to whether they actually looked for such evidence.

That’s a strange assertion - it’s rare to say you haven’t found any evidence of something if you actually haven’t looked for something.

A previous statement from the FBI computer forensics specialist stated

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...although he did not believe there was "any way of determining...100%" whether Clinton's servers had been compromised, he felt "fairly confident that there wasn't an intrusion." When asked whether a sophisticated foreign adversary was likely to be able to cover its tracks, he stated, "They could. Yeah. But I, I felt as if we coordinated with the right units at headquarters... for those specific adversaries... And the information that was returned back to me was that there was no indication of a compromise."

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...cked-by-china/

pip08456

30-08-2018 17:29

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35961820)

I note you left out the previous paragraph in that article.

Specifically this part.

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though full forensic analysis of the servers wasn't possible, because one (an Apple server) had been disposed of by the time of the investigation.

This would prove Mick's assertion that servers/devices were destroyed would it not?

Cherry picking just the parts that suit your agenda does you no favours Hugh.

Hugh	30-08-2018 17:39

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But disposal of obsolete servers happens all the time in IT - they have a (usually) 3-5 year life span, then they can be sold off for charity after the disks are wiped, or the hard disks are removed and destroyed.

This is normal practice, not something unusual (speaking from having run IT Infrastructure departments for over 20 years) - most businesses have a rolling refresh program.

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