Cable Forum - Britain outside the EU

EDIT: Didn't we donate nearly 4 million vaccine doses to Ireland earlier this year? Makes the bragging very distasteful and certainly most perfidious.

There was some talk in March but I can't see any verified information to say that it happened.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40253024.html

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The [Irish] Government has said it is "not aware" of any plans that the British to share almost 4 million vaccines with Ireland, following reports on Sunday.

A Government spokesperson said it and the UK government "maintain close contact across all matters of common interest", but is not aware of a specific UK plan to share vaccines with Ireland.

If it had happened members of both the UK and NI Governments would have milked the point for all it is worth as a political gesture.

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/po...friend-3181519

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Sammy Wilson: Vaccine offer shows Irish Republic that UK – not EU – is its true friend
News that the UK is willing to send millions of vaccine jabs to the Irish Republic should stand as a clear illustration that the UK – not the EU – is Ireland’s true friend.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-56556125

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The Sunday Times reported that the UK was preparing to offer 3.7 million vaccines to the Republic of Ireland.

It quoted a cabinet source who said the idea was both "good politics" and would address "genuine public health concern in Northern Ireland".

Sephiroth

03-08-2021 16:23

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36088378)

There was some talk in March but I can't see any verified information to say that it happened.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40253024.html

If it had happened members of both the UK and NI Governments would have milked the point for all it is worth as a political gesture.

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/po...friend-3181519

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-56556125

Damn!

pip08456

03-08-2021 16:35

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There never was an offer only a suggestion that any excess supplies could be sent.

1andrew1

03-08-2021 18:16

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36088380)

Damn!

Yes, I think it was a case of nearly donating 4 million vaccine doses as oppose to donating nearly 4 million vaccine doses. ;)

---------- Post added at 18:16 ---------- Previous post was at 16:57 ----------

More signs of the adjustment to Brexit. Covid no doubt playing its part too.

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Brexit: Vegetable producer says labour shortage means food is being thrown away

One of the country's biggest vegetable producers says it is losing thousands of pounds a week and having to throw away food due to a labour shortage.

The workforce at Alfred G Pearce, based near King's Lynn, Norfolk, is 20% to 30% down on previous years.

Business development manager Jack Pearce said the Covid-19 pandemic and Brexit were to blame.

The Home Office said employers should "invest in the domestic work force" rather than labour from abroad.

A second company, Freshlands Farm, based in Ramsey, Cambridgeshire, said it had lost tens of thousands of pumpkins as it had not been able to hire any workers to clear weeds from the fields.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-58058783

Chris

03-08-2021 20:31

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36088382)

Yup.

It’s unfortunate but this is the market at work. Sooner or later producers will learn what they need to do to thrive in this environment. The successful ones will find ways to implement new procedures. I hold out little hope for anyone who, this time next year, is still bleating about labour shortages in the faint hope of getting the government to readmit large numbers of casual labourers from Eastern Europe. Ministers have rightly reinforced their view that producers should be looking for ways to staff their operations locally.

Paul	03-08-2021 21:54

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One of the country's biggest vegetable producers says it is losing thousands of pounds a week

So pay a few more people to work for you ?

Oh wait ...

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Mr Abblitt said it was "a big concern" whether he could find the 20 to 30 people per day needed to pick, wash and pack the remaining pumpkins.

You mean at the crappy rates you pay .... Im sure you could find 30 local people if the money was right.

Carth

03-08-2021 22:23

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Couldn't agree more Paul.

Mr Abblitt is possibly one of those nice employers that paid his foreign workers minimum wage, then charged them £100 a week each to live in cramped conditions in a couple of old caravans in the corner of a field.

He maybe even turned a blind eye to the legality of them being in the UK and paid them much less . . but it's all supposition, and there's no proof that he or anyone in the business ever did such a thing.

RichardCoulter

04-08-2021 12:11

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New charge to visit Europe to be introduced:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eti...er-brexit/amp/

Sephiroth

04-08-2021 12:21

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36088441)

New charge to visit Europe to be introduced:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eti...er-brexit/amp/

As I've regularly said, the EC hates the UK for leaving their poxy "union". They'll say that all third-countries will be equally treated, but the EC will be laughing up their sleeves.

I hope that in addition to not buying French cars, Brits will eschew EU holiday destinations. It's a power we hold.

We've stopped buying French wine and cheese along with a lot of Waitrose customers that I know.

mrmistoffelees

04-08-2021 12:36

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36088444)

I presume you're not buying anything from the US in that case, as they also charge for an ESTA ? Or, for that matter, any other country that charges an entry fee.

You're coming across like a spoilt child.

BenMcr

04-08-2021 13:12

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36088444)

You mean the one that was proposed before the vote to leave?

https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/wh...rders/etias_en

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The European Commission first introduced the idea of a ETIAS in April 2016 in the Communication "Stronger and Smarter Information Systems for Borders and Security"Search for available translations of the preceding linkEN••• and adopted the proposal on 16 November 2016. After negotiations with the European Parliament and the Council the ETIAS Regulation (EU) 2018/1240 was adopted on 12 September 2018 and entered into force on 9 October 2018.

Sephiroth

04-08-2021 13:18

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36088446)

We didn't leave the US.

Hugh	04-08-2021 13:53

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36088441)

New charge to visit Europe to be introduced:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eti...er-brexit/amp/

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The European Commission has offered free travel for UK travellers who go to EU countries for short stays, as long as the UK agrees to do the same for EU nationals. If the UK accepts this offer, it will still be necessary to complete the ETIAS application though there would not be a fee.

The European Commission has said the EU’s offer was “entirely conditional upon the UK also granting reciprocal and non-discriminatory visa-free travel for all EU member states.”

Pierre

04-08-2021 15:07

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From 2023.

mrmistoffelees

04-08-2021 15:10

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36088456)

We didn't leave the US.

Aaah i see, so we're back to the we don't want to be part of your organisation BUT we do want to retain the same benefits that we had whilst being a member?

Are you that delusional ???

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