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pip08456 14-10-2018 10:04

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35966461)
Erm, no.

We were called it when the 3 day week came into force, which was early 74 (I was there too) - before the EEC referendum.

Erm yes.

The EEC referendum was not about joining, we were already in and had been for a couple of years.

heero_yuy 14-10-2018 10:43

Re: Brexit
 
It also reached it's zenith during the winter of discontent. (78-79)

1andrew1 14-10-2018 11:03

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35966448)
you mean when we were sick man of Europe right

From being the sick man of Europe, through greater freedom of trade and competition that EU membership has contributed to, we have become one of the top European countries again. It's been a tough process but we got there.
The challenge is to retain this success post-Brexit and ensure that new technologies like electric cars are designed and made here in the UK and we don't become a side show to the rest of Europe.

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35966413)
So you don't trust the EU either. You are obviously a very confused person.

This is not a footy match, Den doesn't have to support one side or the other.

Mick 14-10-2018 11:32

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35966468)
This is not a footy match, Den doesn't have to support one side or the other.

No, but he thinks the UK should be the one to bend over backwards because we exercised our democratic right to leave the EU, while the EU doesn't need to do anything, AKA, sweet FA.

1andrew1 14-10-2018 11:33

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35966370)
And that is the problem with economists, they can only go with the model they have.

They will update and refine those models.

Mick 14-10-2018 11:38

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35966471)
They will update and refine those models.

When their fictional predictions turned out to be project fear all along. ;)

denphone 14-10-2018 11:47

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35966470)
No, but he thinks the UK should be the one to bend over backwards because we exercised our democratic right to leave the EU, while the EU doesn't need to do anything, AKA, sweet FA.

No l don't if you read my posts Mick.

1andrew1 14-10-2018 12:20

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At the moment, it seems to be perfidious Davis who is threatening a good deal for the country.https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2018/10/7.jpg
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45853384

Mick 14-10-2018 14:19

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35966474)
No l don't if you read my posts Mick.

Yes you did Den...

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Originally Posted by denphone
So HMG is not being difficult in the negotiations either? as yes the EU are being difficult but they are not the ones who are pulling out of the EU as its up to Theresa May and her government at the end of the day to come to a agreement with the EU

I read your post and that's exactly what you inferred.

denphone 14-10-2018 14:33

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They are the government at the end of the day so its up to them to come to a amicable agreement with the EU..

Damien 14-10-2018 14:34

Re: Brexit
 
A German newspaper claims they've seen the withdrawal bill and it'll be announced tomorrow: https://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/...ehen-1.4168879

Hugh 14-10-2018 14:36

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35966463)
Erm yes.

The EEC referendum was not about joining, we were already in and had been for a couple of years.

We joined the 1st of January 1973, and the 3 day week came into force at Midnight 31st December 1973, so it wasn’t a couple of years...

Sephiroth 14-10-2018 16:11

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35966489)
We joined the 1st of January 1973, and the 3 day week came into force at Midnight 31st December 1973, so it wasn’t a couple of years...

The 3 day week was brought about by the then Corbynite equivalent; Scargill & McGachy who prevented electricity from being generated. This sort of thing rattled on for years until Thatcher squashed it.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35966488)
A German newspaper claims they've seen the withdrawal bill and it'll be announced tomorrow: https://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/...ehen-1.4168879

I have read the article. It may well get through the EU approvers. It would need a “frist” as in a definite end date rather than a hoped for end date for the Customs Union - in other words imo, a fudge is no longer an option. Getting it through our Parliament is thus in a knife edge.

OLD BOY 14-10-2018 16:17

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35966486)
They are the government at the end of the day so its up to them to come to a amicable agreement with the EU..

They government has come up with several amicable solutions, but the EU is not listening. It is quite good at the art of 'non'!

Given that ee have come up with proposals and the EU are just standing there with arms folded, I really don't see how you can blame this on the government.

David Cameron came up with some very modest proposals and was rebuffed. The EU is just intransigent and doesn't have a democratic bone in its body of officials. I don't see why you want to defend them and place all the blame on May.

You still haven't told us what you would do in her place.

pip08456 14-10-2018 16:51

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35966489)
We joined the 1st of January 1973, and the 3 day week came into force at Midnight 31st December 1973, so it wasn’t a couple of years...

You are correct this time.;)


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