Cable Forum - U.S Election 2020

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is suing four battleground states — Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — whose election results handed the White House to President-elect Joe Biden.

In the suit, he claims that pandemic-era changes to election procedures in those states violated federal law and asks the U.S. Supreme Court to block the states from voting in the Electoral College.

Its amazing how all this alleged voting fraud has only happened in states Trump lost. :rolleyes:

Apparently even the pandamic only affected those states procedures, truely a clever virus. :erm:

pip08456

09-12-2020 23:11

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36061539)

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12...ction-georgia/

Meanwhile, previously in Texas...

A further 17 states have joined the Texas fun.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1607555436

Amicus Curiae: A person that is not a party to a particular litigation but that is permitted by the court to advise it in respect to some matter of law that directly affects the case in question

Hugh	10-12-2020 00:41

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36061589)

Interestingly, Kansas and Mississippi, which both signed this, also count mail-in ballots that arrive late.

The brief also argues that executive officials shouldn't be able to change voting rules. But Texas, the plaintiff in this case, the state they're supporting, did. The Texas governor used executive power to extend the early voting period.

In Florida, on the other hand, the Secretary of State unilaterally extended the voter registration deadline.

Utah mail in ballots just have to be post marked befor the election date and will be accepted for several days after Election Day.

I wonder what the difference is between those States and the four that are sued?

papa smurf

10-12-2020 09:05

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Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden under federal investigation for tax case

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/21218...ase?s=web_push

would he be eligible for a pardon from dad if he's been a naughty boy?

Damien

10-12-2020 10:02

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36061605)

Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden under federal investigation for tax case

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/21218...ase?s=web_push

would he be eligible for a pardon from dad if he's been a naughty boy?

Yup he would. You would hope he doesn't get one but given the direction of American politics, I would not be at all surprised if he got one.

pip08456

10-12-2020 10:02

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36061605)

Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden under federal investigation for tax case

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/21218...ase?s=web_push

would he be eligible for a pardon from dad if he's been a naughty boy?

Normally you'd have to be found guilty of something before being pardoned for it.

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President Trump has discussed with advisers whether to grant pre-emptive pardons to his children, to his son-in-law and to his personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani, and talked with Mr. Giuliani about pardoning him as recently as last week, according to two people briefed on the matter.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/01/u...ni-pardon.html

papa smurf

10-12-2020 10:05

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36061616)

Normally you'd have to be found guilty of something before being pardoned for it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/01/u...ni-pardon.html

I did ask the question would he be eligible for a pardon from dad if he's been a naughty boy?

1andrew1

10-12-2020 10:33

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Allegation seems to be that Kushner got a change of foreign policy in order to get a bail-out from Qatar.

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Democrats probe Kushners’ billion-dollar rescue deal for family-owned skyscraper

Investigation examines presidential son-in-law’s role in influencing US policy on Qatar

Lawmakers from the Senate Finance and House Foreign Affairs committees on Wednesday sent a wide-ranging document request to Brookfield Asset Management, which counts the Qatar Investment Authority among its major financial backers and signed a long-term lease on the office tower in 2018.

The deal followed frenetic efforts by the Kushner family to raise enough money to meet a $1.2bn mortgage payment on the tower, and coincided with a series of sharp turns in US foreign policy towards Qatar.

At the time, Mr Kushner, the presidential son-in-law and a senior White House adviser, was meeting Middle Eastern leaders outside traditional diplomatic channels and assuming a far-reaching role in crafting US foreign policy. “While Brookfield has claimed that Qatari representatives had no involvement in the 666 Fifth Avenue transaction,” Senator Ron Wyden and Representative Joaquin Castro wrote, “we remain troubled that Qatari funds ended up in a billion-dollar rescue for a company directly tied to Jared Kushner”.

https://www.ft.com/content/f314e002-...f-740897f5efd7

Hugh	10-12-2020 14:30

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36061605)

Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden under federal investigation for tax case

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/21218...ase?s=web_push

would he be eligible for a pardon from dad if he's been a naughty boy?

Pretty sure there will be quite a few State investigations into politicians’ families tax affairs over the next few months...

Mick	10-12-2020 19:23

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I did ask the question would he be eligible for a pardon from dad if he's been a naughty boy?

If Bill Clinton can pardon his Brother, then yes it’s possible. And it is also possible to pardon someone, even if they had not been charged with anything, just like President Gerald Ford did to President Nixon in 1974, when Nixon resigned from office and he had not yet been charged with a crime.

Damien

10-12-2020 19:26

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Again the pardon is absurd. If Biden pardons his son it should an impeachable offence but it won't be, it's just the way it works. Using the power of the office of President to get your family out of trouble.

1andrew1

10-12-2020 19:39

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36061731)

It's ridiculous and just encourages wrong uns. Unfortunately, the US Constitution is treated a bit like a holy writing which cannot be improved upon.

Mick	10-12-2020 19:46

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36061736)

It's ridiculous and just encourages wrong uns. Unfortunately, the US Constitution is treated a bit like a holy writing which cannot be improved upon.

Yes it can. They’re called Amendments.

1andrew1

10-12-2020 19:53

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36061741)

Yes it can. They’re called Amendments.

Does it getting amended much in practice?

Chris

10-12-2020 20:00

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36061743)

Does it getting amended much in practice?

Last time was 1992: the 27th amendment, which took 202 years from proposal to ratification. :rofl:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Twe...enth-Amendment

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