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BenMcr 19-07-2010 13:11

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. II
 
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Originally Posted by millsman (Post 35058555)
but if I had just signed a 12 month contract with VM under the provision that there would be NO monthy HD fee then I would be pretty annoyed.

But then if you had just signed a contract with Virgin, you would have done so based on the current TV product, not what may or may not be offered in the future.

Opinion 19-07-2010 13:12

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. II
 
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Originally Posted by millsman (Post 35058555)
If the rumour turns out to be true then this would surely make a mockery of their current advertising campaign of 'No Monthly HD Fee', yes I know that this does not say anything about the Premium channels, but if I had just signed a 12 month contract with VM under the provision that there would be NO monthy HD fee then I would be pretty annoyed.

On another note if the fee turns out to be per box then could you just add the HD premium channels to 1 box.

yes, but sky sports and movies are PREMIUM channels. PREMIUM usually means there is a price involved.

People can not seriously expect VM to just give out every single channel for free, when even sky dont

borrissey 19-07-2010 13:17

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VM engineer said Sky charge them per box so they got to pass down that charge to the customers.

He also said you can pre order the channels sometime this week, maybe tomorrow.

I'll just get it on one box.

Chartwell 19-07-2010 13:17

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Their website at the moment still states no monthly fee for ANY HD channels.

They will need to do some back tracking soon.
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KingFry 19-07-2010 13:18

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sky sports news HD launching on virgin on august 23

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...august-23.html

Telford240 19-07-2010 13:19

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Yes but my problem is for the likes of us XL and VIPs if you subscribe to Sky Sports the price has not dropped for us but has for the other packages so how could they justify charging us top package payers for HD sport on top, I would be better off dropping my package to gain.

LEE1 19-07-2010 13:21

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. II
 
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Originally Posted by KingFry (Post 35058565)
sky sports news HD launching on virgin on august 23

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...august-23.html

if this is true maybe we can have other sky basics the same day.

Telford240 19-07-2010 13:21

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. II
 
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Originally Posted by Opinion (Post 35058559)
yes, but sky sports and movies are PREMIUM channels. PREMIUM usually means there is a price involved.

People can not seriously expect VM to just give out every single channel for free, when even sky dont

Yes but i am already paying for sky sports as a premium channel but you think its right to pay extra on top of that to watch it in HD as a XL customer

mattboothers 19-07-2010 13:22

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. II
 
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Originally Posted by KingFry (Post 35058565)
sky sports news HD launching on virgin on august 23

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...august-23.html

Brilliant news!

We may get the other Sky HD basics then aswell.

TheDon 19-07-2010 13:23

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. II
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35058557)
But then if you had just signed a contract with Virgin, you would have done so based on the current TV product, not what may or may not be offered in the future.

The current TV product that is being advertised whilst saying "Unlike Sky, we don't charge a monthly fee to watch HD." as well as "And there are more channels being added all the time" (both from here clearly giving the indication that any more HD channels added will also come under the banner of "we don't charge a monthly fee to watch HD". There are no terms attached to the point VM don't charge for HD, there is no subtext that states subject to change and they may in future charge, it's clear and simple, no charge for HD.

Anyone taking up a contract under the free HD campaign could VERY easily argue breach of contract based on VM then charging for HD, regardless on if it's on new channels.

mattboothers 19-07-2010 13:24

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So really the only thing we will be missing now is Sky Sports HD 3 and 4

Chartwell 19-07-2010 13:25

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Means SS3HD and SS4HD definitely not on Virgin with Sky's campaign that Sky is the only place to get all five sports channels.

I am fascinated to see how Virgin market a charge for SS1HD and SS2HD with their websites and fliers all claiming it will be at no extra cost.

UNLESS - there is a whole new pricing structure involved where sports and movies become sold on a per box basis for SD and HD - that means they can hide the HD fee within an all in box-by-box subscription?

BenMcr 19-07-2010 13:30

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. II
 
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Originally Posted by Chartwell (Post 35058573)
I am fascinated to see how Virgin market a charge for SS1HD and SS2HD with their websites and fliers all claiming it will be at no extra cost.

Where have Virgin mentioned Sky Sports HD in any of their advertising or websites.

Chartwell 19-07-2010 13:33

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. II
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35058575)
Where have Virgin mentioned Sky Sports HD in any of their advertising or websites.

They haven't, but they say no extra fee for their HD channels (see image below from my post above)
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I am sure legally VM can change prices and pull this campaign to then charge for HD, but it will be completely contradictory to the advertising which is still out there.

I am sure that Sky Sports HD will be an HD channel?

millsman 19-07-2010 13:34

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. II
 
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Originally Posted by Chartwell (Post 35058564)
Their website at the moment still states no monthly fee for ANY HD channels.

They will need to do some back tracking soon.
http://www.virginmedia.com//images/a...-hd-portal.png

Exactly my point, Yes Sky do charge £10 for HD pack but there is nothing hidden £10 for 43 HD channels not £7 for 12 or 2 if you just want sports

That equates to 23 pence/ channel on sky compared to VM at 58 pence/ channel.

Don't get me wrong I agree with what Ben is saying in that packages & products change, but I think that VM have cocked up big time they should have charged for HD from day 1. IMO they could stand to loose customers to sky that want the premium HD channels.


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