Cable Forum - The Chronicles of Rishi

UK voters of working age have turned their backs on the governing Conservative Party, according to a new poll that underscores the challenge facing Prime Minister Rishi Sunak as he tries to prevent a landslide defeat at a general election due in the next nine months.

The age at which Britons are more likely to choose the Tories over the Labour opposition has risen to 70 from 39 at the last general election in 2019, according to the JL Partners survey shared with Bloomberg. It comes as a separate poll published Thursday by Ipsos gave Sunak the joint-lowest approval rating for a UK premier, and the Tories their lowest ever voting intention share in a data series stretching back to 1978.

Once the Tories sort themselves out - however long that takes - the point at which you're more likely to vote Tory than Labour will come down a bit but it won't go all the way down. It's been increasing for a long time. If you work you're more likely to vote Labour and crucially if you don't own a home you're more likely to vote Labour.

Paul	18-04-2024 15:41

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Unless you inherit a home from your parents, its becoming less and less likely you could afford to buy your own home - house prices are just ridicuous now. Buying my own house would cost me a fortune these days.

1andrew1

18-04-2024 15:55

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36173688)

Longer term this is what the Tories should be worried about: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-desert-tories

Once the Tories sort themselves out - however long that takes - the point at which you're more likely to vote Tory than Labour will come down a bit but it won't go all the way down. It's been increasing for a long time. If you work you're more likely to vote Labour and crucially if you don't own a home you're more likely to vote Labour.

It's clearly in the Conservatives' interests to have more home-owners but their policies local and national discourage new house-building. Something they will doubtless have time to reflect on when in Opposition.

Pierre

18-04-2024 17:01

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36173689)

There’s loads of affordable houses, I could go on right move right now and find properties for say £80K. Just not in areas that you would choose to live.

jfman

18-04-2024 17:11

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36173691)

There’s loads of affordable houses, I could go on right move right now and find properties for say £80K. Just not in areas that you would choose to live.

It’s a moot point if affordable homes are in areas that someone wouldn’t choose to live in since supply and demand makes the price a function of earnings (through what they could borrow) in an area.

London wages aren’t transferable to Dundee for the vast majority of people in the vast majority of industries.

Mr K	18-04-2024 17:45

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36173691)

There’s loads of affordable houses, I could go on right move right now and find properties for say £80K. Just not in areas that you would choose to live.

Yes but who wants to live in Halifax? ;)

heero_yuy

18-04-2024 17:46

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36173695)

Yes but who wants to live in Halifax? ;)

I suppose somebody has to. :D

Pierre

18-04-2024 17:57

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36173695)

Yes but who wants to live in Halifax? ;)

Good point well made.

I prefer to say “Calder Valley”

Hugh	18-04-2024 19:15

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36173695)

Yes but who wants to live in Halifax? ;)

Ah, the CleckHuddersFax Triangle, The Land That Time Forgot, where Men are Real Men and the Sheep are really worried… ;)

Paul	18-04-2024 19:58

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36173691)

There’s loads of affordable houses, I could go on right move right now and find properties for say £80K. Just not in areas that you would choose to live.

Sure, lots listed for anything from £1000 to £25,000.
Not the real price though, they are auctions, or other catches (like serious work/repairs needed). Some are "shared" ownership.

1andrew1

18-04-2024 20:15

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36173706)

Sure, lots listed for anything from £1000 to £25,000.
Not the real price though, they are auctions, or other catches (like serious work/repairs needed). Some are "shared" ownership.

Was intrigued and this article says the cheapest area in England & Wales with an average house price of £68,837 is TS1 (Middlesbrough) However, as others have posted, if the employment prospects are minimal then who's going to relocate there just for a cheap house?
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...sside-28742339

mrmistoffelees

18-04-2024 20:49

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36173707)

TS1 is an erm , interesting area of Middlesbrough

Mr K	18-04-2024 20:52

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Support for the Conservatives has fallen to its lowest level in 45 years, according to the latest Ipsos poll.

The Tories’ vote share has fallen to just 19 per cent – a record low for the second consecutive month – with Labour leading by 25 points on 44 per cent.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2530950.html

Accrington Stanley have more support than the Tories...

Russ	18-04-2024 21:36

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Ah another one bites the dust. Pretty soon there’ll be nothing left of the Party left to put a party forward for the GE. Can’t wait to watch them booted out for a good 8 to 10 years at least.

1andrew1

18-04-2024 22:04

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36173711)

TS1 is an erm , interesting area of Middlesbrough

Coincidentally, I was at the Wetherspoon's there between Christmas and New Year (The Swatter's Carr) keeping a friend company who's trying to visit all of them. Area seemed ok although when we visited at 4pm most people looked they had been there several hours.

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