Cable Forum - General Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)

I love how its 2018 and we're still waiting for this. I think rumours were it would be launched in 2014.... I remember my obsession with fox news due to its comedy nature and that dream died after sky axed it... It was close to launching too if i remember.

As for sky atlantic the sky contract is up next year so perhaps then? as long as VM come to an agreement with sky that is. The whole "we have sky atlantic so join sky for this reason" wasn't overly successful so it may be time to just launch it on VM for the increased advertisement revenue

Dave42

11-08-2018 14:33

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Originally Posted by i am not scouse (Post 35958890)

I don't suppose there is any news of sky Atlantic coming as well or am I just being greedy

think that be next year same time BT get it too

jfman

11-08-2018 15:02

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BT aren't getting Sky Atlantic. BT users are getting the option to buy Now TV through BT, just like you, I or anyone else can buy a £20 box for 6 months entertainment down Tesco.

RichardCoulter

11-08-2018 15:23

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35958880)

Given the precarious nature of the bandwidth position on Virgin Media, I'd be obliged if Richard could ask his source how Virgin arrived at the space for these additional services?

Are any new frequencies in use?
Are any frequencies now modulated in 256 QAM that were not before?

As previously stated, the duplicate channels were not pointing to the same stream, but were using bandwidth in their own right. I did speculate as to why and said that It could be that VM were testing the load on their system. Shortly afterwards, long redundant placeholders were removed, such as the long closed The Africa Channel and for various pop up channels etc. Those who understand the system more than I said that it appeared to be under strain.

This means that adding the UKTV channels back has not effectively used up any more bandwidth.

I did intend to try to pass a message on to ask them about any QAM modulation changes to address your point and try to find out if this could be how VM will make more efficient use of their existing limited spectrum but, unfortunately, as a result of your (and a minority of other individuals) comments, the people responsible for collating, analysing and posting this information have decided to withdraw consent for their future findings to be published on internet forums.

I am informed that the scanners 'don't care whether you believe it or not and have pointed out that their information isn't produced for forum users in any case'.

The last piece of information issued for public use was that VM have created an extra block of data channels on frequencies formerly used for DVB-C channels. Why? I've no idea.

The scanners take the view that certain forum users seem 'quite happy to accept the validity of the data when it is bringing them additional information about new channels being added in the background, channels switching between subscription packs etc. They find it rather strange that those forum users don't accept the validity of other changes on the network that, possibly, interfere with the user's fantasy vision of what is happening at VM'.

That is why they have taken the decision not to release any new information on internet forums in the future. I have to say, I can't blame them.

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35958859)

Good news for both parties.

With all the UKTV channels returning and all the newly added channels, VM offers the widest range of channels that it has ever had.

Yes, at this point in time we have almost channel parity with Sky with regards to the channels that matter to most people.

AMC, Sky Atlantic, Disney HD and MTV Classics and maybe a few more music channels and football club channels appear to be the only missing channels of note now.

The first two aren't (yet?) available to VM and the third one is at least available in SD.

We'll even be getting GOLD HD eventually!

vincerooney

11-08-2018 15:29

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35958939)

As previously stated, the duplicate channels were not pointing to the same stream, but we're using bandwidth in their own right. I did speculate as to why and said that It could be that VM were testing the load on their system. Shortly afterwards, long redundant placeholders were removed, such as the long closed The Africa Channel and for various pop up channels etc. Those who understand the system more than I said that it appeared to be under strain.

This means that adding the UKTV channels back has not effectively used up any more bandwidth.

I did intend to try to pass a message on to ask them about any QAM modulation changes to address your point and try to find out if this could be how VM will make more efficient use of their existing limited spectrum but, unfortunately, as a result of your (and a minority of other individuals) comments, the people responsible for collating, analysing and posting this information have decided to withdraw consent for their future findings to be published on internet forums.

I am informed that the scanners 'don't care whether you believe it or not and have pointed out that their information isn't produced for forum users in any case'.

The last piece of information issued for public use was that VM have created an extra block of data channels on frequencies formerly used for DVB-C channels. Why? I've no idea.

The scanners take the view that certain forum users seem 'quite happy to accept the validity of the data when it is bringing them additional information about new channels being added in the background, channels switching between subscription packs etc. They find it rather strange that those forum users don't accept the validity of other changes on the network that, possibly, interfere with the user's fantasy vision of what is happening at VM'.

That is why they have taken the decision not to release any new information on internet forums in future. I have to say, I can't blame them.

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Yes, at this point in time we have almost channel parity with Sky with regards to the channels that matter to most people.

AMC, Sky Atlantic, Disney HD and MTV Classics and maybe a few more music channels and football club channels appear to be the only missing channels of note now.

The first two aren't (yet?) available to VM and the third one is at least available in SD.

We'll even be getting GOLD HD eventually!

I can't see any logical reason for Sky withholding Atlantic much longer. Don't see much point in AMC what does it actually broadcast? Some walking dead spin off?

I do miss MTV classics though.

Get atlantic and get the amazon app on tivo and virgin media have actually done quite well. If they'd just reduce the amount of price increases per year...

RichardCoulter

11-08-2018 16:05

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35958914)

I started up my V6 and put 124 on (Paramount) and as I watched it the now/next changed from 124 to 19, then I switched over and back to 124 (Gold). Tried 19, and it was gone/hidden. All back to normal now.

I've often wondered what happens at the domestic end when such changes are made. I was watching 124 when GOLD was replaced with Paramount and a similar thing happened. I too had to switch away and back to get the new channel to work.

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35958942)

Totally agree.

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Apparently, Dave SD and GOLD SD are to be replaced by their HD variants only.

I think we can now assume that VM are moving towards the cessation of dual illumination of both formats. This helps to reduce the capacity needed and won't affect most customers who should now have an HD capable STB. Those without can still watch the programming an hour later on the SD +1 channels.

jfman

11-08-2018 16:15

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35958939)

Premier Sports HD and Paramount HD were pointing to the same stream. It was the same frequency, video and audio ID on my V6.

RichardCoulter

11-08-2018 16:20

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Interesting, did you check the other duplicate channels?

I'll be glad to see the back of these duplicate channels, the V6 was treating them as different channels because of the full stop at the end and trying to record both, meaning I had to keep manually tidying up my planned recordings.

ozsat

11-08-2018 16:27

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I didn't - my Series Links recorded from just one version.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35958960)

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Dave HD is aleady on VM on 194

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35958943)

Apparently, Dave SD and GOLD SD are to be replaced by their HD variants only.

MatthewEastaugh

11-08-2018 16:31

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The indication from Virgin is Dave HD will be taking the Dave SD spot soon, with Dave SD disappearing.

BenMcr

11-08-2018 16:48

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Originally Posted by MatthewEastaugh (Post 35958965)

The indication from Virgin is Dave HD will be taking the Dave SD spot soon, with Dave SD disappearing.

As all SD only boxes are being turned off and swapped then it's now easier to do that where possible.

OLD BOY

11-08-2018 17:19

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35958942)

I agree.

However, as for AMC, I am still hoping that VM will be able to carry this channel as part of the next wholesale deal with BT. It's not all Walking Dead stuff! They also have some decent films on there as well as series such as Halt and Catch Fire; Preacher; Better Call Saul; Mad Men; Breaking Bad to name a few. For those who do not subscribe to Netflix or Amazon, it's the first time that they will have been able to see some of these programmes.

RichardCoulter

11-08-2018 17:59

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Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 35958961)

I didn't - my Series Links recorded from just one version.

I saw them listed twice in planned recordings and, to save using unneccesary disc space, I deleted them. Interesting that the V6 would have been intelligent enough not to record the duplicate channel entries, perhaps it compares the synopsis information as well as episode details??

Does anyone know if UKTV programmes should be manually set to record, or will the series links pick up the details straight away?

ozsat

11-08-2018 18:02

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It doesn't record duplicate episodes unless you select 'All' recordings.

I only noticed UKTV was back as all my recordings were back in My Planned Recordings.

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