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Just the sort of people that would be in the frame for Big Brother, or that weird Jungle thing :D

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Indeed, our Civil Servants are very hard working and damned good at what they do.

The problem is that they are very much establishment figures, the majority of whom are left of centre to varying degrees in their politics.

I know from experience that they don't much like Conservative politicians and their ideas and so their reports and opinions can be rather negative at times.

Problem is, they seem to weigh up the cost of all the disadvantages they see without taking account of the considerable opportunities of getting out of this dreadful organisation of Eurocrats.

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So what else does the report say? I take it you've seen a copy?

Cheers

Dave

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I think you sill find that most clear thinking people believe that if we obtain a good trade deal as the government says they want to achieve, then there will be little detriment, if any, to the UK. Add to that our ability to boost trade with the rest of the world, this will be a significant boost to our economy.

What all too many remainers can't see, or don't want to admit, is that the EU is holding us back, and there is a price to pay if we stay.

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1st time I've posted in this thread. I voted leave.

Am I a racist bigot? Asking for a friend.

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Funnily enough, the Netherlands Government has just released an impact assessment written for them by KPMG. Much of the focus isn’t tariff costs but non tariff barriers to trade such as customs declarations, regulatory reviews, etc. Shipments to or from third countries are estimated to cost between €78 and €127 per shipment before any tariffs are taken in to consideration. Another interesting fact is 35,000 Dutch businesses ship to the UK that have no experience of shipping to non-EU countries.

Oops, forgot link - https://www.government.nl/binaries/g...+of+Brexit.pdf

I would be surprised if the costs and number of businesses are less for the UK.

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No, just very misled.

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Tell your friend not to worry, all he has to do is smile and give a saucy wink when the 'other lot' tell you how bad they think it will turn out to be. ;)

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Please tell your friend that it is possible to be a Leave voter without being a racist bigot.

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Only do it occasionally- no need to be a total winker...

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Really? How have I been misled? Where was I originally hoping to be led to?

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Well I really hope so.

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Didn't think it was you that was asking :shrug:

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The biggest lie for me during the referendum wasn't the bus is was Dave lying about the contents of a sixteen year old study on trade with the EU

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...&postcount=884

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Bags of assumptions there on their political leanings and pretty much all wrong. I've met lots of civil servants. For their sins 90% voted Brexit and said it's the best thing ever to happen to their careers. Umlike most people on the UK. they're probably right. So if anything, their analysis would be pro-Brexit.

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Good news for hardworking Brits - common sense may be on the rise!
https://www.ft.com/content/f4775024-...0-9c0ad2d7c5b5

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Sorry, thought Mr K was replying to

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Rubbish, I, as a proud leave voter, do not in any way feel misled. I would vote leave, again and again and AGAIN!

To feel like we need to be associated with the corrupt EU, is in a more narrow minded way of thinking.

We certainly do not and leave that horrible and crap institution we must.