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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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Israel launches strikes against Hamas leaders in Qatar's capital Doha

https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-late...#liveblog-body

Damn! Hamas really are finished.

Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

How to squander whatever Arab goodwill may have existed.

Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36201596)

I think Israel’s response as been wholly proportionate. If Israel wanted to commit a “genocide” and visit upon HAMAS and the Palestinian civilians that took part in Oct 7th this would all have been over by Oct 10th.
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That is very true!

Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36202456)

How to squander whatever Arab goodwill may have existed.

Not at all, the UAE and others in the region hate and deal harshly …. More than us…….with islamists

Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36202456)

How to squander whatever Arab goodwill may have existed.

I think Mad Net has given up caring. He's literally going out with a bang and is taking Israel.down with him.

Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

Did they use missiles, or planes ?
I would have though Qatar would shoot down any planes.

Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36202482)

I think Mad Net has given up caring. He's literally going out with a bang and is taking Israel.down with him.

Qatar are harbouring terrorists and terrorist funding.

They are absolutely legitimate targets.

Saudi Arabia are not friends with Qatar, nor are the UAE (or Bahrain most likely).

Qatar are Islamist supporters, I doubt anyone in the region will care if they’re bombed.

The only problem is that it is Israel doing the bombing, but i don’t think they’ll make much noise.

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From what i read in the news, attempts to kill Hamas leadership failed ,but on the plus side Netanyahu has made another enemy

Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36202488)

Saudi Arabia are not friends with Qatar, nor are the UAE (or Bahrain most likely).

That information is out of date.

The Al-Ula Declaration signed in January 2021 has seen them become friends again. As of July 2023, Bahrain, Chad, Egypt, Maldives, Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, and the UAE had restored diplomatic ties with Qatar.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar_...0the%20Qataris.

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36202488)

Qatar are Islamist supporters, I doubt anyone in the region will care if they’re bombed.

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Israel's unexpected strike has angered not only Qatar and its Middle East neighbours, but also its own closest ally in Washington and, though it claimed the attack was "precise", the IDF missed its targets.

https://news.sky.com/story/israel-ha...trike-13428093

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36202488)

They are absolutely legitimate targets.

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They claim it was a "precise strike", but none of the Hamas leadership were taken out as they claimed was their objective.

Five lower-ranking officials were killed along with a member of Qatar's security forces. What it has done is left any hope of ceasefire talks in tatters.

For many, this was a huge miscalculation by Benjamin Netanyahu.

https://news.sky.com/story/israel-ha...trike-13428093

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36202488)

Qatar are harbouring terrorists and terrorist funding.

Because the US asked them to and Israel agreed.

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In 2011, the US government persuaded the Qataris to let Hamas open a political office in Doha, and the Israelis approved of the idea.

Everyone wanted an address to negotiate with and funnel millions of dollars through to Gaza.

In the words of one Israeli official: "We believe that better conditions in Gaza would lessen the incentive of Hamas and the population to go again to a war. So in a way, it is helping the deterrence."

Critics of Benjamin Netanyahu said he was deliberately strengthening one wing of Palestinian politics as part of a cynical policy of divide and rule.

For whatever reason, Israel acquiesced fully in the Hamas political office being set up in Doha. It was staffed with some of the veterans of its cause who seem to have been on the target list in this strike.

https://news.sky.com/story/many-reas...tages-13427757

Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36201946)

When you’re ready, in your own time.

What do you think of this?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/livebl...2-sons-inside/

Do you think after maiming two children an IDF soldier would go and help himself to a coke?

Apologies, went on holiday…. Anyways…

It’s absolutely horrific and I unreservedly condemn the actions of Hamas. As I would hope you would do for the same. I don’t however feel it justifies Israel’s response in anyway shape or form

https://www.hrw.org/news/2015/07/19/...inian-children

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36202723)

No worries, I hope you had a great holiday, I’m not looking to reignite this discussion unless something materially significant happens.

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36202724)

No worries, I hope you had a great holiday, I’m not looking to reignite this discussion unless something materially significant happens.

Thank you I did. I do agree but wanted to give you the courtesy of a reply.

Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

Israel has committed genocide in Gaza, says UN inquiry
Commission’s 72-page legal analysis cites examples including scale of killings, aid blockages and forced displacement

A UN commission of inquiry concluded on Tuesday that Israel had committed genocide in Gaza and that top Israeli officials including the prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, had incited these acts.

It cited examples of the scale of the killings, aid blockages, forced displacement and the destruction of a fertility clinic to back up its genocide finding, adding its voice to rights groups and others that have reached the same conclusion.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ays-un-inquiry

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The UN seem good at that, taking months to prepare and publish a written report that tells us what many can already see.

I suppose their next step is a harshly worded letter to Netanyahu telling him he's a naughty boy and won't get any supper :rolleyes:

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The UN only just supported the creation of the state of Israel in the first place, is it truly unbiased? That isn't to say that Israel isn't committing such acts though.
Yet what would the UN actually do if Israel were on the receiving end? Probably about the same.
What it does establish though is the possibility of action to be taken in the future. If found culpable then those giving orders in the Israeli government should be taken to task.