Cable Forum - General Changes to Virgin TV (2021)

Not really but at least I wouldn't both to look. Once I do I try to understand even if I really don't care. I am that " listener" of radio 4 that Listens to a show and has no idea what is being discussed . Goes to sound's listens again still fails to understand. But still try s week after week .:D

Raider999

06-12-2021 19:12

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36104467)

It makes sense for BT to pursue another option given the difficulties the negotiations with DAZN are going through. The revelations from the Telegraph make a mockery of the comments I've read on this forum suggesting BT Sport-DAZN was a done deal.

Told you so;)

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36104484)

And the comments were also revealled as a error on my part for mis-reading a document if that was a swipe at me.

To be fair - you did hold your hands up to that

epsilon

06-12-2021 20:37

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36104529)

Yes, it can be difficult to make sense of The Archers. ;)

DDDD	06-12-2021 22:02

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Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36104444)

As you can see from that, using the same video PID & audio PID as the original service. Simply allocating a unique service ID number for each BBC region. As you say, and as I have posted previously, prep work for adding BBC One HD regions in England. 10180 will be for the north west.

As far as I know, its reappearance isn't connected to the outage.

now think about the pids numbers of a service that starts with a SID of 82 +:confused::confused:

Scheme breaker

jfman

06-12-2021 22:28

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36104484)

And the comments were also revealled as a error on my part for mis-reading a document if that was a swipe at me.

I’m sure I’ve cited it as being described as a done deal independently. Boxing podcasts had referenced it, and I’d read a few news articles around the same time. I definitely appreciate your input into the rumour mill - certainly not worthy of a swipe at for reasonable comment.

My suspicion is it was close to a done deal, however DAZN are causing reputational damage to Serie A in Italy and I suspect BT want a run on deal for which they need continuity of an equivalent service to their BT TV customers for a period. I’m not sure how the Premier League or UEFA do their contracts, but after the ITV Digital fiasco I’d imagine some guarantees (quality of service perhaps?) could sit with BT plc. and BT wouldn’t necessarily want to be on the hook for compo around DAZN’s failings.

Incidentally I watched the Anthony Yarde fight in 4K HDR on the BT app on Saturday and it was excellent. If DAZN aren’t up to that level of coverage then some BT customers under contract would rightly feel short changed.

epsilon

06-12-2021 22:40

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Originally Posted by DDDD (Post 36104552)

now think about the pids numbers of a service that starts with a SID of 82 +:confused::confused:

Scheme breaker

A little bit cryptic. :p

I'm guessing you mean what I mentioned in post #1810

DDDD	06-12-2021 23:29

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#1800 mate

10180 is correct as you said , but imagine 10190

9009 for vid
9031 for ac3
etc etc
Its out the the pid range , spec breaker and a bit of a head scratcher . I don't think DVB ever envisaged regional muxes getting so fragmented with so many services . Needs a future move and tidy up .

Media Boy UK

07-12-2021 01:18

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Just found the following on "VM TV Outage" posted on December 2nd (posts numbers 79 and 80.)

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...3710636&page=6

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Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36104299)

360 is night and day to the Tivo system, although there are a few features from the Tivo system not present which is covered in other threads on the forum.

It has the HD channel swap if you package has a particular channel in HD it is swapped to the higher number (Except for Channel4 outside London) but a lot cleaner interface and less menus to have to navigate.

My household much prefer 360

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Originally Posted by DDDD (Post 36104300)

I can't comment officially , but I would guess Ch4 will be sorted in the next 6 months

@DDD - Do that mean the SD Channels of Channel 4, E4, 4Seven and More4 is set to close on Virgin Media within the next six months?

But it look like Channel 4 HD is set to move to Channel 104 in England, Scotland and Northern Ireland by June 2022.

That mean Channel 4 HD is set to move to Channel 108 in Wales by June 2022.

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Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36104506)

A quirk of being in DR mode, it should disappear again. (Possibly connected to the old Syfy +1 before it moved?).

That time of posting I can confirmed that SYFY +1 is still broadcasting from SID 2131 so maybe moving soon to SID 621 to sit beside SYFY on SID 623.

epsilon

07-12-2021 01:27

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Originally Posted by DDDD (Post 36104567)

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36104575)

That time of posting I can confirmed that SYFY +1 is still broadcasting from SID 2131 so maybe moving soon to SID 621 to sit beside SYFY on SID 623.

My information is that SID 621 had disappeared by Dec 4th. SID 440, however, hadn't - if you want to speculate. :D

ScottishSteve

07-12-2021 01:29

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Media Boy I think you are reading too far into that there.

Channel4 HD will be in 104 in all areas.

The HD swap is already applied to the other services if your package includes it on 360

Media Boy UK

07-12-2021 01:33

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Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36104577)

This is why DTT has a unique TSID for each regional multiplex and re-uses the PIDs across each region. Virgin's method gets a little overcrowded.

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My information is that SID 621 had disappeared by Dec 4th. SID 440, however, hadn't - if you want to speculate. :D

I was just telling what my TiVo box was saying. But saying that I have just seen the info on CO58 on DBR has not been updated since December 3rd.

epsilon

07-12-2021 01:44

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36104580)

I was just telling what my TiVo box was saying. But saying that I have just seen the info on CO58 on DBR has not been updated since December 3rd.

Virgin was still in DR mode on Dec 3rd.

Media Boy UK

07-12-2021 02:06

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Well the time has come for "Best of" to reappear on Cable Forum.

But this year you have until December 24th at 23.59 to tell me your best:

A) New Channel of the year (Nominate by YOU):
NOTE: Tell me if your vote is for an HD or SD Channel

What launch in 2021 on Virgin TV?

Sky Showcase HD
Sky Showcase
QVC Extra
GB News HD
Colors Gujarati
GREAT! tv*
GREAT! movies classic*
GREAT! movies*
GREAT! movies action*
Utsav Gold HD*
Utsav Bharat*
Utsav Plus HD*
Sky Documentaries (SD)
Sky Nature (SD)

*Branded by new owners.

B) Best poster on Cable Forum with Information (Nominate by YOU):
NOTE: Do NOT vote for me.

C) Best Radio Channel of the year (Nominate by YOU):

To vote just PM me. Note if you vote via this thread YOUR VOTE WILL NOT COUNT.

Results will be revealed after 5pm GMT on December 31st.

Also I can confirmed at "Changes to Virgin TV (2022)" will launch on Cable Forum just after 8pm on December 31st.

So Happy Holidays and get voting.

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Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36104581)

Virgin was still in DR mode on Dec 3rd.

DBR listed the last update as Dec. 3rd at 23:15

epsilon

07-12-2021 02:21

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You should probably add Sky Showcase/HD as Sky Max is basically just a rebrand of Sky One.

Media Boy UK

07-12-2021 02:26

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