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Ultimate.Conj 18-12-2015 10:07

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35813308)
With the newer boxes from VM being able to output scaled down SD from HD channels it must only be a matter of time before all output is in HD?

I would have thought so too mate. It makes sense, as I can't imagine many/if any programmes are still filmed in a SD format.

spiderplant 18-12-2015 12:51

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35813308)
With the newer boxes from VM being able to output scaled down SD from HD channels it must only be a matter of time before all output is in HD?

But what would be the benefit?

Bear in mind there are still LOTS of SD-only boxes out there, and most channels don't have an HD version.

OLD BOY 18-12-2015 16:29

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
If VM ever offer HD only channels and we still have to record to the box (rather than the cloud), then I hope they give us a hard drive with five times the existing capacity!

Derekb108 18-12-2015 16:34

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35813454)
If VM ever offer HD only channels and we still have to record to the box (rather than the cloud), then I hope they give us a hard drive with five times the existing capacity!

id rather recordings on the cloud as you could watch your recordings on the go, on your ipad and tablet....

muppetman11 18-12-2015 16:47

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Originally Posted by Derekb108 (Post 35813455)
id rather recordings on the cloud as you could watch your recordings on the go, on your ipad and tablet....

Be careful what you wish for , cloud recordings may also have expiration restrictions put in place.

theone2k10 18-12-2015 16:52

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35813459)
Be careful what you wish for , cloud recordings may also have expiration restrictions put in place.

Wuaki being a prime example of this, you buy a movie but it only has a 3 year licence so after 3 years you have to buy it again.

denphone 18-12-2015 17:01

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35813454)
If VM ever offer HD only channels and we still have to record to the box (rather than the cloud), then I hope they give us a hard drive with five times the existing capacity!

Yes a bigger capacity would be lovely.

Derekb108 18-12-2015 17:13

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35813463)
Yes a bigger capacity would be lovely.

Yes it would, and you would be able to view recordings on any aproved device, though virgin needs to drop Flash......

RichardCoulter 18-12-2015 19:49

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35813462)
Wuaki being a prime example of this, you buy a movie but it only has a 3 year licence so after 3 years you have to buy it again.

I'm gobsmacked to learn this- I'd always assumed that once you'd "bought" a film it was yours forever!!!

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35813420)
But what would be the benefit?

Bear in mind there are still LOTS of SD-only boxes out there, and most channels don't have an HD version.

It would mean the cessation of expensive dual illumination. It looks like the PSB channels will be going HD only from around 2020.

This means massive savings for satellite and DTT, not sure how this would affect VM though as they own their own capacity.

spiderplant 18-12-2015 20:35

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35813491)
This means massive savings for satellite and DTT

SD only requires about a quarter of the bandwidth of HD, so the transmission cost savings would be minimal. Meanwhile HD-only On Demand services would require far more bandwidth.

harry_hitch 19-12-2015 00:14

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35813462)
Wuaki being a prime example of this, you buy a movie but it only has a 3 year licence so after 3 years you have to buy it again.

Lol, what a farce. Long live the humble dvd/bluray!

theone2k10 19-12-2015 00:58

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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35813514)
Lol, what a farce. Long live the humble dvd/bluray!

It is a odd one Blinkbox however it is forever, i think amazon is forever too.

denphone 19-12-2015 09:20

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35813514)
Lol, what a farce. Long live the humble dvd/bluray!

Indeedy.

spiderplant 19-12-2015 11:33

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35813520)
It is a odd one Blinkbox however it is forever, i think amazon is forever too.

No company (or technology for that matter) is forever

passingbat 19-12-2015 15:23

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35813520)
It is a odd one Blinkbox however it is forever, i think amazon is forever too.

Amazon are covering their backsides:


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d. Availability of Purchased Digital Content. Purchased Digital Content will generally continue to be available to you for download or streaming from the Digital Service, as applicable, but may become unavailable due to potential content provider licensing restrictions and for other reasons, and Amazon will not be liable to you if Purchased Digital Content becomes unavailable for further download or streaming. You may download and store your own copy of Purchased Digital Content on a Compatible Device authorised for such download so that you can view that Purchased Digital Content if it becomes unavailable for further download or streaming from the Digital Service.



In a discussion I had recently with an Amazon rep, compatible devices are limited to tablets and smart phones. She claimed you could download it to the Fire TV, but I don't think that is correct.

Given that a Standard Definition US 22 episode season is around 36 Gig (at least it is when I rip my personal DVDs) that becomes unpractical in my view.

Of course, due to the paranoid content providers, you can't download it to a computer hard drive.


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