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RichardCoulter 17-04-2026 17:50

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36214043)
Alternatively, I don't know of anyone who's been shot or stabbed online :erm:

Actually, thinking about it, isn't most of the crap that happens - online or outdoors - instigated by kids anyway?

No, but people have been encourage to take their own lives whilst in a state of mental distress (or literally bullied to death.)

I do agree that much of the crap is instigated by young people.

Paul 17-04-2026 21:03

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36214065)
No, but people have been encourage to take their own lives whilst in a state of mental distress (or literally bullied to death.)

There is nothing new about that, it happened long long before the internet ever even existed.

damien c 19-04-2026 19:02

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36214039)
These days I think that the real world is actually safer than the online world.

Tell that to all the people who are abused, raped, assaulted, robbed, killed, injured etc etc on a daily basis on the streets of this country.

Tell that to the thousands of girls who are stalked on their way home each day from school!!


As for "Instigation" for one to kill themselves, I didn't realise that bullying etc only came into existence when the internet became mainstream and we gave kids mobile phones/fakebook access, kid's telling other kid's verbally, via graffiti etc to kills themselves never happened before the internet.

Just like child abuse never existed, csam never existed, there was no abuse, no false information etc etc before the internet, the internet created it all!


The online world and "real" world are as bad as each other, but for the most part, because I was raised correctly and warned of the issues that could be online etc like many my age, we/I understood/understand the risks and as such most people I know didn't fall the BS online, unlike these days, where you are not allowed to teach kids about the bad things because you will be labelled an extremist etc!

RichardCoulter 20-04-2026 11:30

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Originally Posted by damien c (Post 36214171)
Tell that to all the people who are abused, raped, assaulted, robbed, killed, injured etc etc on a daily basis on the streets of this country.

Tell that to the thousands of girls who are stalked on their way home each day from school!!


As for "Instigation" for one to kill themselves, I didn't realise that bullying etc only came into existence when the internet became mainstream and we gave kids mobile phones/fakebook access, kid's telling other kid's verbally, via graffiti etc to kills themselves never happened before the internet.

Just like child abuse never existed, csam never existed, there was no abuse, no false information etc etc before the internet, the internet created it all!


The online world and "real" world are as bad as each other, but for the most part, because I was raised correctly and warned of the issues that could be online etc like many my age, we/I understood/understand the risks and as such most people I know didn't fall the BS online, unlike these days, where you are not allowed to teach kids about the bad things because you will be labelled an extremist etc!

Oh yes, both have their problems, but the Internet has made it easier to do, especially if they are able to do so anonymously.

Carth 20-04-2026 12:43

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I didn't think anyone could now be anonymous on the internet :shrug:

If kids are getting 'bullied and abused' online it's usually from other kids that they know . .

Obviously the more serious stuff is different, but if you "don't talk to strangers" (Ronnie James Dio, Holy Diver album 1983) then you're much safer

Itshim 20-04-2026 14:04

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36214205)
I didn't think anyone could now be anonymous on the internet :shrug:

If kids are getting 'bullied and abused' online it's usually from other kids that they know . .

Obviously the more serious stuff is different, but if you "don't talk to strangers" (Ronnie James Dio, Holy Diver album 1983) then you're much safer

Don't get how anyone lets them selfs be bullied on line. Surely someone could show them the off switch.

Paul 20-04-2026 14:42

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36214208)
Surely someone could show them the off switch.

No one understands that simple concept - much like years ago when people complained about whats on TV.

GrimUpNorth 20-04-2026 17:32

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36214213)
No one understands that simple concept - much like years ago when people complained about whats on TV.

Made me remember a line about Mary Whitehouse from a song by Roy Chubby Brown :shocked:.

RichardCoulter 20-04-2026 21:44

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Jusr been on the BBC news that mobile phones are to be banned for children in schools by law in England, so hopefully this will help to curtail bullying (includes both smart & non smart phones.)

Stephen 20-04-2026 23:16

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36214230)
Jusr been on the BBC news that mobile phones are to be banned for children in schools by law in England, so hopefully this will help to curtail bullying (includes both smart & non smart phones.)

How on earth will it curtailing bullying?? They can still access their phones outside of school hours. :confused:

papa smurf 21-04-2026 06:29

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36214232)
How on earth will it curtailing bullying?? They can still access their phones outside of school hours. :confused:

probably just revert to the tried and tested old school bullying with fists,ah well that's progress for you.

Itshim 21-04-2026 09:22

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36214235)
probably just revert to the tried and tested old school bullying with fists,ah well that's progress for you.

My thought as soon as I read Richard's latest pronouncement

Carth 21-04-2026 09:26

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36214235)
probably just revert to the tried and tested old school bullying with fists,ah well that's progress for you.

haha yeah, sooner or later everything reverts back to what was easiest to do.

"give us your pocket money or we will beat you up"
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a black eye, split lip, 2 camel bites and a twisted arm later . . "was that worth it for 17 pense and a half chewed toffee?"

:D

TheDaddy 21-04-2026 11:01

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36214242)
haha yeah, sooner or later everything reverts back to what was easiest to do.

"give us your pocket money or we will beat you up"
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a black eye, split lip, 2 camel bites and a twisted arm later . . "was that worth it for 17 pense and a half chewed toffee?"

:D


Yes, yes it was

Paul 21-04-2026 14:52

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36214230)
hopefully this will help to curtail bullying

Of course it wont.
It will make no difference at all.
Firstly bullies will just use alternative methods.
Secondly, they will all still have phones away from school.


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