Cable Forum - General Changes to Virgin TV (2021)

Basically, it's for people who are interested in that type of information. I wouldn't expect everyone to be interested and, clearly, you aren't. Nobody is forcing you to read it. Feel free to just get on with whatever it is you come here for. :D

Just a thought perhaps a thread along the lines , complicated details to describe a simple change :D

epsilon

05-12-2021 22:25

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36104447)

Just a thought perhaps a thread along the lines , complicated details to describe a simple change :D

Aww bless, do you need keep a buffer between you and any complicated details? Sorry if it gave you a headache. :D

cheekyangus

05-12-2021 23:51

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)

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Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36104444)

As you can see from that, using the same video PID & audio PID as the original service. Simply allocating a unique service ID number for each BBC region. As you say, and as I have posted previously, prep work for adding BBC One HD regions in England. 10180 will be for the north west.

As far as I know, its reappearance isn't connected to the outage.

My (possibly completely wrong) theory is that VM changed something recently that also hid it from DBR (though that wasn't the reason for doing it) and moving to backup systems made it show up again.

epsilon

05-12-2021 23:59

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36104453)

My (possibly completely wrong) theory is that VM changed something recently that also hid it from DBR (though that wasn't the reason for doing it) and moving to backup systems made it show up again.

I was told a while ago by someone running one of the DAB monitors that the Virgin monitor would be back after a few technical problems were resolved. I'm not sure that there is much that Virgin could do to "hide" data.

cheekyangus

06-12-2021 00:39

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)

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Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36104454)

Even a significant technology change behind the scenes? E.g. it was End To End IP streaming with Multicast rather than Broadcast channels using multiplexes.

(Given I'm yawning as I type this it'll probably be nonsense, the above :D)

epsilon

06-12-2021 02:07

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36104457)

Lots of over-thinking there. :D - It is the broadcast tv platform so hiding the data would break the tv service.

cheekyangus

06-12-2021 09:23

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)

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Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36104462)

Lots of over-thinking there. :D - It is the broadcast tv platform so hiding the data would break the tv service.

Give me a moment and I'll think of something else complex and wrong... :D

1andrew1

06-12-2021 09:50

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)

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Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 36104420)

Discovery now attempting to derail DAZN’s £600m buyout of BT Sport.

https://www.ft.com/content/33f4b1f5-...5-4375c3393c93

It makes sense for BT to pursue another option given the difficulties the negotiations with DAZN are going through. The revelations from the Telegraph make a mockery of the comments I've read on this forum suggesting BT Sport-DAZN was a done deal.

Legendkiller2k

06-12-2021 12:44

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36104467)

And the comments were also revealled as a error on my part for mis-reading a document if that was a swipe at me.

epsilon

06-12-2021 14:12

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36104466)

Give me a moment and I'll think of something else complex and wrong... :D

:D
Your suggestion was actually quite interesting, going forward. The DBR site doesn't show any of the tests in the 30xx SID range which link to URLs rather than the usual transport stream content. They aren't hidden, as such, but DBR would have to be adapted to show them. The Virgin Media monitor seems to have gone offline again though.

Media Boy UK

06-12-2021 14:18

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An new test on DBR using CO58 on stream 21 - but is broadcasting SYFY.

https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.p...&sec=0&lang=en

1andrew1

06-12-2021 14:24

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36104484)

And the comments were also revealled as a error on my part for mis-reading a document if that was a swipe at me.

No, before your postings, I was thinking of discussions on this thread or possibly elsewhere where it was taken as a given deal.

Media Boy UK

06-12-2021 14:53

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)

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Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 36104420)

Discovery now attempting to derail DAZN’s £600m buyout of BT Sport.

https://www.ft.com/content/33f4b1f5-...5-4375c3393c93

That Discovery / BT Sport story now free on RXTV.

https://rxtvinfo.com/2021/discovery-...-over-bt-sport

Legendkiller2k

06-12-2021 15:22

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36104498)

No, before your postings, I was thinking of discussions on this thread or possibly elsewhere where it was taken as a given deal.

Ah no worries mate :)
Oddly we've not had the Discovery info in our office, it may have gone to our Seattle office though as we're based in USA and UK hopefully they'll send me to Seattle at some point as they often send people from our office there and vice versa.
Another one that did pop up a few months back but has gone quiet now was Disney, given the ESPN fiasco that did surprise me but they've gone quiet on it all now.

epsilon

06-12-2021 15:28

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36104497)

An new test on DBR using CO58 on stream 21 - but is broadcasting SYFY.

https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.p...&sec=0&lang=en

A quirk of being in DR mode, it should disappear again. (Possibly connected to the old Syfy +1 before it moved?).

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