Cable Forum - The state benefits system mega-thread.

Some would probably want claimants to come and mow their lawn and do their shopping for them.

Be good though if it worked like that. if and when one of my neighbours loses their job. the dole could tell them that Gary wants his lawn mowing and a few things from Tesco's.

mrmistoffelees

11-08-2015 11:43

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35792943)

Or, people wish to see those that are receiving not inconsiderable amounts of the publics purse making some sort of contribution.

Not like you to try and spin the sensationalist angle on it though is it Gary?

nomadking

11-08-2015 11:49

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Paying claimants the minimum wage would bring a whole lot of baggage of employment rights and costs with them. In those circumstance, companies would want to be more fussy about who they took on. The idea is meant to be giving people without job experience some experience so they have something to put on their CV.

Gary L

11-08-2015 11:55

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35792946)

Or, people wish to see those that are receiving not inconsiderable amounts of the publics purse making some sort of contribution.

Within the first week of claiming the dreaded benefit money?
or a bit longer?
how can you tell how much to despise them for being out of work and claiming benefits?
we don't ask them. we just say **** regardless.
or we say "I don't mean him!"

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Not like you to try and spin the sensationalist angle on it though is it Gary?

No.

mrmistoffelees

11-08-2015 12:15

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35792951)

I'm quite sure I've clearly stated that my stance applies to the long term unemployed. But that wouldn't fit your arguement so therefore you will ignore it.

How about after six months of receiving benefits people are expected to begin to make a contribution? That gives the genuine people a good chance to find gainful employment?

The jobs are there, they may not be peoples ideal role, but they're still there.

Gary L

11-08-2015 12:21

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35792955)

But the contribution shouldn't be working for Tesco's doing the job that should pay a wage. and encourages these companies not to employ anybody 'normally' as they have no need to because there's a never ending line of benefit scroungers to choose from.

making a contribution to society.
just how are they keeping you, me and him happy by working for Tesco's?

is it just the satisfaction that they are being punished?

Hugh	11-08-2015 13:28

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Well, since Tesco have over 310,000 employees in the UK in 3,561 stores, I'm not sure the work-experience job-seekers are saving Tesco that much money - do you have any proof that they are not employing staff because they are taking part in this scheme?

Anyway, Tesco the offered unemployed people on jobcentre work experience schemes referred to the company the choice of staying on benefits and completing the placement unpaid, or accepting a four-week paid placement with a guaranteed offer of a job at the end if the trial goes well.

Gary L

11-08-2015 13:32

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35792970)

Yes.
I asked if they had any vacancies for shelf stackers. and they asked if I was on benefits. to ask at the jobcentre about being put on a workfare placement with my local branch of Tesco's.

mrmistoffelees

11-08-2015 13:36

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35792972)

Yes.
I asked if they had any vacancies for shelf stackers. and they asked if I was on benefits. to ask at the jobcentre about being put on a workfare placement with my local branch of Tesco's.

OK, allow me to rephrase, do you have any evidence this is a corporate wide policy? Rather than an individual store?

Gary L

11-08-2015 13:39

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35792974)

OK, allow me to rephrase, do you have any evidence this is a corporate wide policy? Rather than an individual store?

Yes.
that was Head Office I spoke to.

nomadking

11-08-2015 13:59

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35792976)

Yes.
that was Head Office I spoke to.

Strange that this Tesco website lists 1,720 jobs available.

Hugh	11-08-2015 14:45

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Gary's telling fibs, methinks, as they don't actually have a job called "shelf stacker" - the Customer Assistant job consists of

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It takes lots of different people to run a store and this is a job for doers, with plenty of variety. Within one shift you could be guiding a customer to a product, serving on the checkouts, helping to fill shelves, taking a delivery or moving stock around the warehouse.

There are also lots of different types of roles on offer, including checkout, store floor and counter roles, picking or delivering home shopping or training up to become a skilled baker. Whatever the specific job you apply for, you’ll also get the chance to try your hand at different tasks, depending on where we need your help.

Our roles are very flexible, with shift patterns for every lifestyle: you can choose to work full-time, part-time, day or night depending on the positions available.

And, of course, you’ll spend plenty of time face-to-face with our customers, who may need you to help out in all kinds of different ways.

And has already been said, they have over 1700 vacancies for Customer Assistants, none of which ask you to apply to the Job Centre...

heero_yuy

11-08-2015 14:51

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35792990)

Gary's telling fibs, methinks, as they don't actually have a job called "shelf stacker" - the Customer Assistant job consists of And has already been said, they have over 1700 vacancies for Customer Assistants, none of which ask you to apply to the Job Centre...

Funny, I can smell burning underwear too. :D

Gary L

11-08-2015 15:24

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35792990)

Gary's telling fibs, methinks, as they don't actually have a job called "shelf stacker"

LOL
Just because I said shelf stacker to the woman?

so if I phoned up a car wash place and said 'car sponger' you'd say we don't have any car sponger jobs but we did have car washer jobs?

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35792994)

Funny, I can smell burning underwear too. :D

You can't smell over the internet. must be coming from your end ;)

mrmistoffelees

11-08-2015 15:44

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35792999)

Would you object to them performing work that benefits the community, litter picking etc?

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