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1andrew1 22-08-2021 12:48

Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
Tony Blair has a written a heart-felt opinion piece in the Mail on Sunday

TONY BLAIR: America's retreat is imbecilic – and tells our enemies we don't have any interests or values worth defending

Hom3r 22-08-2021 14:35

Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36090556)


I stopped listening to this idiot years ago, he's a very nasty man, who many would never tire of punching in the face.

1andrew1 22-08-2021 15:03

Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36090567)
I stopped listening to this idiot years ago, he's a very nasty man, who many would never tire of punching in the face.

That doesn't mean he's wrong about Afghanistan though.

Carth 22-08-2021 17:07

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36090569)
That doesn't mean he's wrong about Afghanistan though.

Doesn't mean he's right either, about quite a few things possibly ;)

anyway, I'm perfectly happy to step in if Hom3r needs a break from all the punching :D

heero_yuy 22-08-2021 17:09

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36090582)
anyway, I'm perfectly happy to step in if Hom3r needs a break from all the punching :D

I'll join the queue. Could do with the exercise.:D

Pierre 22-08-2021 17:40

Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36090569)
That doesn't mean he's wrong about Afghanistan though.

The guy took us into Iraq in the full knowledge we had no reason to be there. Not a credible critic.

1andrew1 22-08-2021 18:53

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36090586)
The guy took us into Iraq in the full knowledge we had no reason to be there. Not a credible critic.

It's a brave soul who argues that the current withdrawal from Afghanistan is anything but a failure, so much as I dislike Blair I agree with him on this matter.

Carth 22-08-2021 21:12

Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
It does beg the question though, of how long we (or the US) should have stayed there.

We've been there long enough, and thrown enough resources at them to enable them to stand on their own . . but they didn't.

If we were to stay another 20 years, we may as well have taken over completely and owned the damn place. :D

TheDaddy 22-08-2021 21:25

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36090586)
The guy took us into Iraq in the full knowledge we had no reason to be there. Not a credible critic.

And not to mention without the Iraq distraction things might have turned out better, bozo should tell him he'll take no criticism from him and he should be in The Hague imo

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36090592)
It's a brave soul who argues that the current withdrawal from Afghanistan is anything but a failure, so much as I dislike Blair I agree with him on this matter.

Yes but not such a brave soul to send other people's children to war based on lies

Jaymoss 22-08-2021 22:55

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36090569)
That doesn't mean he's wrong about Afghanistan though.

a lot of the blame for all that lies at his feet anyway

1andrew1 22-08-2021 23:00

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36090620)
a lot of the blame for all that lies at his feet anyway

No doubt about that - but because Blair is critical of the current withdrawal does not make the withdrawal successful by any stretch of the imagination.

Carth 22-08-2021 23:31

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I guess it all depends on your perception of a successful withdrawal.

It's a success for the UK because it saves us money and gets our people back home.

It's definitely not a success for Afghanistan . . . but when has anything ever been a success there?

Jaymoss 22-08-2021 23:36

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36090622)
No doubt about that - but because Blair is critical of the current withdrawal does not make the withdrawal successful by any stretch of the imagination.

oh definitely

I have never been a soldier or a politician but even I know you pull your people out before you pull your armies out

Carth 22-08-2021 23:44

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36090627)
oh definitely

I have never been a soldier or a politician but even I know you pull your people out before you pull your armies out

Probably wouldn't have had to 'pull our people' out if it wasn't for the Afghanistan forces - you know, the ones we've been supplying and training for years - running away at the first sign of a couple of bearded chaps on a camel :rolleyes:

Mind you, what else could they have done?

1andrew1 23-08-2021 00:51

Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36090628)
Probably wouldn't have had to 'pull our people' out if it wasn't for the Afghanistan forces - you know, the ones we've been supplying and training for years - running away at the first sign of a couple of bearded chaps on a camel :rolleyes:

Mind you, what else could they have done?

Cashed their pay cheques? Wait, they've not been paid for months!

Let's hope Johnson's pleas work.
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Boris Johnson will personally lobby Joe Biden at the G7 leaders summit, No 10 said on Sunday night, pleading with him to keep US troops at Kabul airport beyond the end of August, after a weekend of tension between the UK and its closest ally.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...fter-31-august


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