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Mick 15-03-2018 11:48

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35940777)
Seems the French have some doubts.

Not what’s being reported on Sky News just mow. Says French President Macron, will decide in days what measures France is to apply against Russia, after agreeing with Britain that Moscow was behind the Salisbury Nerve Agent Attack.

Carth 15-03-2018 11:49

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35940767)
So you don't think that the fact that this nerve agent was made by Russia and is only available in Russia is evidence it Russia was responsible?

You really believe that only the Russians have access to this stuff?

Two quotes from articles I really can't be bothered to link to . . because no matter what, obviously Russia did it :rolleyes:

research on Novichok had begun in 1987, even as the Soviet Union said it would unilaterally halt all its chemical-weapons programs. It had been developed at the institute and tested in a place called Shikhani, in southeastern Russia, and in the Nukus region of Uzbekistan

Since its independence in 1991, Uzbekistan has been working with the government of the United States to dismantle and decontaminate the sites where the Novichok agents and other chemical weapons were tested and developed.Between 1999 and 2002 the United States Department of Defense dismantled the major research and testing site for Novichok at the Chemical Research Institute in Nukus, under a $6 million Cooperative Threat Reduction program.

Mick 15-03-2018 13:41

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
It obviously wasn’t totally destroyed in Russia then was it.

We gave Russia a chance to explain themselves, they chose not to, started coming out with, not issuing ultimatums to a Nuclear State blah blah. That’s not how an innocent party usually responds. They have acted with smug sarcasm.

You know, I almost cried yesterday at that U.N. Security Council meeting last night in New York, that Russia chose to remove all innocence from a quiet little place known as Salisbury, in the U.K. but what was striking was the absolute solidarity shown by all of the other countries. The international community needs to stand firm against Russia.

The Russian Presidential Election is on Saturday, Putin is the only candidate, he cannot fail to win, might as well just call it now. :rolleyes:

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BREAKING: UK, FRANCE, GERMANY AND THE U.S Release joint statement saying the use of the Military grade Nerve Agent, "Constitutes the first offensive use" of a nerve agent since World War II and that there is no plausible alternative that Russia was behind the attack and demand complete disclosure from Russia.

The full joint statement can be read here:-

https://twitter.com/AliBunkallSKY/st...70688004583424

Carth 15-03-2018 14:36

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35940791)
UK, FRANCE, GERMANY AND THE U.S Release joint statement saying . . . .

Didn't they also do similar about those WMD in Iraq . . . that were never found?

Damien 15-03-2018 14:45

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35940799)
Didn't they also do similar about those WMD in Iraq . . . that were never found?

France didn't.

Anyway maybe it's not Russia who poisoned the Russian who spied against Russia with a Russian-developed and Russian manufactured nerve agent in the same way Russia poisoned another Russian agent but it seems awfully likely it was Russia.

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https://twitter.com/joshledermanAP/s...93224721444865

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WASHINGTON (AP) — Trump administration accuses Russia of ongoing, deliberate operation to penetrate US energy grid

papa smurf 15-03-2018 15:09

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35940791)
It obviously wasn’t totally destroyed in Russia then was it.

We gave Russia a chance to explain themselves, they chose not to, started coming out with, not issuing ultimatums to a Nuclear State blah blah. That’s not how an innocent party usually responds. They have acted with smug sarcasm.

You know, I almost cried yesterday at that U.N. Security Council meeting last night in New York, that Russia chose to remove all innocence from a quiet little place known as Salisbury, in the U.K. but what was striking was the absolute solidarity shown by all of the other countries. The international community needs to stand firm against Russia.

The Russian Presidential Election is on Saturday, Putin is the only candidate, he cannot fail to win, might as well just call it now. :rolleyes:

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BREAKING: UK, FRANCE, GERMANY AND THE U.S Release joint statement saying the use of the Military grade Nerve Agent, "Constitutes the first offensive use" of a nerve agent since World War II and that there is no plausible alternative that Russia was behind the attack and demand complete disclosure from Russia.

The full joint statement can be read here:-

https://twitter.com/AliBunkallSKY/st...70688004583424

So every one except Jeremy Corbyn then.

Carth 15-03-2018 16:17

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35940802)
So every one except Jeremy Corbyn then.

. . . and the Russians :D

papa smurf 15-03-2018 16:39

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35940808)
. . . and the Russians :D

same thing init:)

Sirius 15-03-2018 16:58

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35940810)
same thing init:)

:clap::clap::clap:

heero_yuy 15-03-2018 17:25

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
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Quote from Carth:


. . . and the Russians :D
Maybe he's a Soviet spy.. Oh wait a minute.:D

I think we've come full circle somewhere along the line.

Hugh 15-03-2018 17:48

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35940802)
So every one except Jeremy Corbyn then.

This is on most of the ex-military FB pages today, with the comment

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Breaking news! The government expels the first of the Russian spies
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1521136003

heero_yuy 15-03-2018 17:58

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
I fear this may be wishful thinking.

1andrew1 15-03-2018 19:41

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35940823)
This is on most of the ex-military FB pages today, with the comment ]

lol :D:D:D

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Read in the papers today about the potential motive. Russian election at the weekend. Stir up the World against Russia so that Putin can say that he's the only person who can stand up for Mother Russia and everyone should vote for him.
Let's hope the Russian electorate don't, so we can enjoy better relations with the country without the fear of our own citizens being assassinated here in the UK.

papa smurf 15-03-2018 21:54

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35940830)
lol :D:D:D

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Read in the papers today about the potential motive. Russian election at the weekend. Stir up the World against Russia so that Putin can say that he's the only person who can stand up for Mother Russia and everyone should vote for him.
Let's hope the Russian electorate don't, so we can enjoy better relations with the country without the fear of our own citizens being assassinated here in the UK.

I would like to congratulate Mr Putin on his overwhelming victory in the "election"

RizzyKing 15-03-2018 23:43

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
All of Putin's credible opponents either had accidents or are in prison so pretty safe bet who will win the dictatorship sorry election. Putin is fast becoming a menace but while Russia has it's nuclear arsenal there is not a lot we can do and clearly sponsoring an opponent is a non starter. He is a russian problem and only the russians can get rid of him and that's not as unlikely as it once was. This was clearly commited by Russia not sure how anyone can really doubt that but confirming it is very easy and russia knows we can easily confirm it which makes this even more blatent and worrying.


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