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Ignitionnet 02-09-2015 10:21

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35796085)
My channel frequencies are 46200000, 32600000, 39400000 Hz.

I guess all those upgrades will enable speed increases and capacity for dedicated channels for WiFi. Hopefully, it will follow that we get our speed boost and WiFi early on in the roll out. I know it doesn't really work like that.

Yeah, thought as much. You are probably on a network with a 5-50MHz upstream band, and a 54MHz - 750MHz downstream band. Standard extended DOCSIS build.

VM's new build is 5-85MHz upstream and 108MHz-1002MHz downstream, with a field replaceable module upgrading that to (I think!) 5-230MHz upstream, 300MHz-1.3GHz upstream.

It's not necessary for the WiFi project, that will use relatively little bandwidth, but is certainly necessary to make room to go to from 8 to 16 and onwards to 24 DOCSIS 3 downstreams, let alone adding DOCSIS 3.1 into the mix.

roughbeast 02-09-2015 10:54

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35796088)
Yeah, thought as much. You are probably on a network with a 5-50MHz upstream band, and a 54MHz - 750MHz downstream band. Standard extended DOCSIS build.

VM's new build is 5-85MHz upstream and 108MHz-1002MHz downstream, with a field replaceable module upgrading that to (I think!) 5-230MHz upstream, 300MHz-1.3GHz upstream.

It's not necessary for the WiFi project, that will use relatively little bandwidth, but is certainly necessary to make room to go to from 8 to 16 and onwards to 24 DOCSIS 3 downstreams, let alone adding DOCSIS 3.1 into the mix.

I'll watch out for changes after the day of the network upgrade work and post them here when they happen.

Channels beyond 8 is where SH3 comes in I guess.

Ignitionnet 02-09-2015 11:09

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35796093)
I'll watch out for changes after the day of the network upgrade work and post them here when they happen.

Channels beyond 8 is where SH3 comes in I guess.

There are already a bunch of areas with more than 8 channels and devices load balanced across them.

Obviously a newer modem is needed to take full advantage of all of them.

Kushan 02-09-2015 11:16

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35796088)
It's not necessary for the WiFi project, that will use relatively little bandwidth, but is certainly necessary to make room to go to from 8 to 16 and onwards to 24 DOCSIS 3 downstreams, let alone adding DOCSIS 3.1 into the mix.

Theoretical bandwidth of what, about 1.2Gbit? Yum!

alanbjames 02-09-2015 11:28

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
When is the Wifi projet due to start? I thought it was Sept 1st.

OhReally 02-09-2015 11:55

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35795906)

or go through thinking of leaving.

Just the nudge I needed to get round to calling them. Person I spoke to offered to upgrade me today to 100 if the area was ready! It was in March. Too little, too late. Downgraded to 50 service (never goes above 25 on a great day so why pay for extra), cancelled tv completely, saved £24/month.

Result. :)

roughbeast 02-09-2015 12:14

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by OhReally (Post 35796107)
Just the nudge I needed to get round to calling them. Person I spoke to offered to upgrade me today to 100 if the area was ready! It was in March. Too little, too late. Downgraded to 50 service (never goes above 25 on a great day so why pay for extra), cancelled tv completely, saved £24/month.

Result. :)

When all the network upgrades are done and the speed boost roll out is complete will you not be tempted to review your position?

OhReally 02-09-2015 12:35

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35796111)
When all the network upgrades are done and the speed boost roll out is complete will you not be tempted to review your position?

95% of the tv we watch is bbc/itv anyway, the rest we can download, usually months before they are shown here.

When it's done we'll end up on 100 anyway, there only are 2 of us living here, 2 desktops, 2 laptops. We don't do gaming so that'll be more than enough, in reality 50 is more than enough.

My mobile is already unlimited anything, when my wife's contract is up for renewal and we get unlimited everything we'll ditch the phone line as well.

So I guess the answer is no, not really :D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35796111)
When all the network upgrades are done and the speed boost roll out is complete will you not be tempted to review your position?

Just for a laugh I ran the speedtest again 1.62/0.38

On a 60 meg connection, that's pathetic.

and for comparison, connecting to Galaxy S5 mobile hotspot - 11.57/1.91

adduxi 02-09-2015 12:55

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35796057)
25GB on a game ! Manic Miner on the ZX Spectrum only took up 48Kb - still haven't finished it after 30 years...

Ahh, many happy memories, ZX Speccy!! ... Never finshed Jet Set Willy or Manic Miner :)

roughbeast 02-09-2015 13:18

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OhReally (Post 35796112)
95% of the tv we watch is bbc/itv anyway, the rest we can download, usually months before they are shown here.

When it's done we'll end up on 100 anyway, there only are 2 of us living here, 2 desktops, 2 laptops. We don't do gaming so that'll be more than enough, in reality 50 is more than enough.

My mobile is already unlimited anything, when my wife's contract is up for renewal and we get unlimited everything we'll ditch the phone line as well.

So I guess the answer is no, not really :D

Fair enough. Your main reasoning is that you don't need the speed, or the phone or TV, not so much that VM is pants.

Kushan 02-09-2015 13:33

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OhReally (Post 35796112)
95% of the tv we watch is bbc/itv anyway, the rest we can download, usually months before they are shown here.

When it's done we'll end up on 100 anyway, there only are 2 of us living here, 2 desktops, 2 laptops. We don't do gaming so that'll be more than enough, in reality 50 is more than enough.

My mobile is already unlimited anything, when my wife's contract is up for renewal and we get unlimited everything we'll ditch the phone line as well.

So I guess the answer is no, not really :D

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Just for a laugh I ran the speedtest again 1.62/0.38

On a 60 meg connection, that's pathetic.

and for comparison, connecting to Galaxy S5 mobile hotspot - 11.57/1.91

Have you reported the fault?

OhReally 02-09-2015 14:18

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35796121)
Fair enough. Your main reasoning is that you don't need the speed, or the phone or TV, not so much that VM is pants.

1.62/0.38? I'd call that pretty rubbish!

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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35796124)
Have you reported the fault?

When I spoke to VM this morning the lady ran some sort of check and said that everything looks ok.

Ignitionnet 02-09-2015 14:22

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
Anyone remember when this thread discussed October's broadband tier upgrades rather than a person's broadband fault?

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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35796097)
Theoretical bandwidth of what, about 1.2Gbit? Yum!

Yes. Could probably sell 600Mb quite happily on 24 downstreams.

spiderplant 02-09-2015 14:29

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by OhReally (Post 35796131)
When I spoke to VM this morning the lady ran some sort of check and said that everything looks ok.

And then what happened?

OhReally 02-09-2015 14:38

re: Virgin Media 70, 100 & 200 Mb Upgrades
 
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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35796136)
And then what happened?

Then I cancelled the TV, downgraded to 50 and saved 24/month...connection is still rubbish.

Which I expected, it's still the same cable coming from the same cab after all.

@Ignitionnet - it's not about my "fault" I apparently don't have one. I was *originally* pointing out that rather than make pointless promises about headline speeds they would be better served fixing the current network to make it robust and reliable.


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