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martyh 08-07-2015 21:36
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35787462)
I've been trying to find clear information on this today following the budget without much success. Is this effecting the whole of the UK or just England and Wales?
Actually I think he saw sense and left things as they are

Ignitionnet 08-07-2015 21:37
Re: Crackdown on 'rich' council house tenants
 
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35787462)
I've been trying to find clear information on this today following the budget without much success. Is this effecting the whole of the UK or just England and Wales?
If it's not devolved it affects everywhere.

Pierre 08-07-2015 21:45
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Well I asked MartyH at least twice now whether he pays the market rate for his property and he hasn't answered. Make your own mind up.

Bleat, bleat , bleat.

Bulky 08-07-2015 21:46
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35787464)
Actually I think he saw sense and left things as they are
Lucky for you your rent won't be going up then :)

martyh 08-07-2015 21:53
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35787469)
Well I asked MartyH at least twice now whether he pays the market rate for his property and he hasn't answered. Make your own mind up.

Bleat, bleat , bleat.
I did ,in the very next post to your question ,which you would know if you bothered to read any of the posts

I await your next snide remark with interest

Gary L 08-07-2015 22:03
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Originally Posted by Bulky (Post 35787470)
Lucky for you your rent won't be going up then :)
Damn, damn, damn! :)

papa smurf 09-07-2015 06:11
Re: Crackdown on 'rich' council house tenants
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35787469)
Well I asked MartyH at least twice now whether he pays the market rate for his property and he hasn't answered. Make your own mind up.

Bleat, bleat , bleat.
simple answer is no by his own admission he pays almost £200 per month less than the market rate .
but in his mind the council check the local going rent totally disregard it and give him a house £200 CHEAPER
i'm sure he will now get nasty call me names and try to change his evolving statements again but facts is facts .

Pierre 09-07-2015 07:42
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35787472)
I did ,in the very next post to your question ,which you would know if you bothered to read any of the posts

I await your next snide remark with interest
Pay the market rate then and stop whinging.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35787487)
simple answer is no by his own admission he pays almost £200 per month less than the market rate .
Not for much longer thanks to Gorgeous George

Gavin78 09-07-2015 13:30
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I pay £360 for mine a month, property is worth around or sells for around 80k-92k

So would the council class that as market value or the price they would sell it to me for which would be around 48k-54k

richard s 09-07-2015 14:37
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Good job you don't live in the south house prices are stupidly high. Those who can afford the market value are people who cannot afford the deposit on the modest £230K two bed houses. There are also lots of private estates being built which only 10% have to be council/housing association builds, some of these are part buy part rent as well.

Tory social engineering at its best.

papa smurf 09-07-2015 15:42
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Originally Posted by richard s (Post 35787554)
Good job you don't live in the south house prices are stupidly high. Those who can afford the market value are people who cannot afford the deposit on the modest £230K two bed houses. There are also lots of private estates being built which only 10% have to be council/housing association builds, some of these are part buy part rent as well.

Tory social engineering at its best.
can they afford the bus fare up north you could get 4 two bed houses for that money

Escapee 09-07-2015 15:44
Re: Crackdown on 'rich' council house tenants
 
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35787462)
I've been trying to find clear information on this today following the budget without much success. Is this effecting the whole of the UK or just England and Wales?
The reference I saw just mentioned London and the rest of England. I don't know about Scotland but my guess is the Welsh government will not enforce this, they will reduce services further to raise the additional revenue.

RichardCoulter 11-07-2015 18:55
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35786712)
George Osborne is set to charge full market rent to social housing tenants who earn over £40,000 in London and £30,000 everywhere else .This is a ridiculous idea ,all it will do is encourage people to stay on a lower wage so they keep the lower rent ,exactly what happens with tax credits.He says he wants to end the practice of higher earners benefiting from cheap subsidised rents,my council rent is neither cheap nor subsised it is exactly where the local market says it should be as I suspect most areas will be simply because that is how the LA's and associations set their rent levels ,London possibly being the exception

The other issue is why the hell should a working person receiving no benefits pay more rent that his next door neighbour who is on the dole

http://news.sky.com/story/1513430/cr...-house-tenants
As I have said previously, all council house rents should have had any subsidy removed the day that Housing Benefit began.

My reasons are that it is double provision and benefits the better off. Prior to the introduction of Rent Rebates (the forerunner to Housing Benefit for council tenants) rent subsidies were a form of help to those on low incomes as it was presumed that all those in social housing were of limited means.

Of course, that is not true today as you have stated yourself on many occasions. I suspect that this is more about you not wanting to lose a taxpayer funded perk than anything else.

Paul 12-07-2015 11:52
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35787562)
can they afford the bus fare up north you could get 4 two bed houses for that money
Not much use if you are 200+ miles from your job tho.

papa smurf 12-07-2015 12:27
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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35787962)
Not much use if you are 200+ miles from your job tho.
we do actually have work in the north and although the wages my be lower than that london or that down south so is the cost of living ;)


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