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martyh 18-04-2014 19:30

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35690131)
An you're the one who just loves to argue and insult. No point in discussing when you're around is there.

It is a stupid idea ,it has been tried in the past and it never ends well ,history proves that

Russ 18-04-2014 19:30

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35690136)

I'm all for teaching, but less on the preaching at an early age. Would be a better way to say it.

Ok, I think we're getting a bit closer to reality now. The thing is what you may consider to be 'less' preaching could be regarded as the correct amount or 'not enough' to someone else. By saying parents should be 'banned' from discussing religion with their kids or reducing it, you're coming across as if you're trying to preach your views on to us....indeed telling us we're "wrong" and informing us how we should live our lives.

But back to your suggestion, what sort of things would be permitted to be discussed?

martyh 18-04-2014 19:32

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35690136)
No I didn't mean ban as in outright, as we all know that's impossible. And stupid, and to mean it as illegal, that's just crazy.

I'm all for teaching, but less on the preaching at an early age. Would be a better way to say it.

in other words keep things as they are now pretty much

peanut 18-04-2014 19:38

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35690138)
Ok, I think we're getting a bit closer to reality now. The thing is what you may consider to be 'less' preaching could be regarded as the correct amount or 'not enough' to someone else. By saying parents should be 'banned' from discussing religion with their kids or reducing it, you're coming across as if you're trying to preach your views on to us....indeed telling us we're "wrong" and informing us how we should live our lives.

But back to your suggestion, what sort of things would be permitted to be discussed?

I didn't say banned from discussing. I admit 'banned' was the wrong word as it's too strong obviously.

I agree with you when you say I'm telling you which is wrong I do admit that now as you've said it, but that's how these religious thread go (and easily so) unfortunately.

I just think children should be old enough to make up their own minds, that's all.

Russ 18-04-2014 19:43

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35690143)

I just think children should be old enough to make up their own minds, that's all.

100% agree with that, the issue however is the people who think Religious Education is another way to force kids in to religion are usually the same ones who think parents bringing their children up in a Christian environment will be forcing/brainwashing it in to them.

Nothing to suggest either are correct.

martyh 18-04-2014 19:48

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35690143)

I just think children should be old enough to make up their own minds, that's all.

That is nearly always the case

Gary L 18-04-2014 19:55

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35690146)
100% agree with that, the issue however is the people who think Religious Education is another way to force kids in to religion are usually the same ones who think parents bringing their children up in a Christian environment will be forcing/brainwashing it in to them.

Nothing to suggest either are correct.

American parents and children are really bad for it.

broadbandking 18-04-2014 20:20

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35690149)
That is nearly always the case

Care to prove that, religion is only for people that followers anyways, it causes more problems

Russ 18-04-2014 20:24

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Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 35690159)
Care to prove that, religion is only for people that followers anyways, it causes more problems

Asking martyh to prove his point whilst making an unsubstantiated claim of your own....

martyh 18-04-2014 20:28

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Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 35690159)
Care to prove that, religion is only for people that followers anyways, it causes more problems

The number of teenagers and people in general not going to church would suggest that they are not being forced and they are exercising their right not to be religious

Qtx 18-04-2014 21:04

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35690108)
Of course there is. To educate about religions.

Why? Do we have lessons specifically to educate children about cults? Oh wait...

Russ 18-04-2014 21:10

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Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35690173)
Why?

To combat some of the appalling and ignorant misconceptions about religions.

Sirius 18-04-2014 21:33

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35690125)
You just can't help yourself can you.

Discussion on this forum is getting harder and harder to participate in these days.

:tu:

Qtx 18-04-2014 22:04

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35690176)
To combat some of the appalling and ignorant misconceptions about religions.

Why do you think this needs a whole dedicated class? People have misconceptions about many things, we don't have a dedicated class for each of them. Should we start having lessons dedicated to misconceptions of cults?

Religions are just cults that have more people following them when you break it down to it's basics. If half the world were Scientology followers then that would be considered ok and we would be debating if the followers could wear Darth Vader masks (whatever their thing is) in public facing jobs. That may sound strange but that is exactly what we do with older, more established religions.

Maggy 18-04-2014 22:18

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This whole thread really underlines why I think religion should be left at the school gates and RE as a subject should be taught as a multi-faith subject only.


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