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passingbat 04-07-2013 23:00
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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35591997)
Spot on but it's not just that. All that ESPN provided is going, if Virgin do manage to get a deal with BT Sports we will have to pay for what ESPN previously provided. ESPN price is already subsumed into the XL price so we are out of pocket even without factoring BT's arrival/non arrival.
Sorry, can't agree with you on that one. Sports fans have done well out of the XL pack with free ESPN. That money can now be used for more channels, especially HD and maybe Atlantic. It's the non sports fans turn now :D

Jameseh 04-07-2013 23:36
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35592021)
My mate had nothing to lose by asking, but l have a strange feeling, that by KO in August, l will be with someone else. As VM must know what is happening and are teasing their customers.

As l have said before, VM should keep their customers better informed. And thats what they are RUBBISH at. PR is extremely poor. Quick enough if you havent paid your bill - like my son, two days over due date and they called him.
Why don't you just move Arthur, I mean I've said I'l go to Sky about 10 times so you must have said it about a hundred.

MalteseFalcon 04-07-2013 23:48
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Not fussed about getting BT sports, although I will miss being able to watch the Italian games. Personally, I'd rather Virgin invested the money elsewhere.

Mad Max 05-07-2013 00:09
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and that BT Sports, will NOT be on VM, unless a price is agreed


This.....:tu:

bamav 05-07-2013 00:37
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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35591935)
It would be really good if Patrick Moore was all alive and they showed the Gamesmaster
Wow! I forgot he did that! He was awesome.

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Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35592026)
Not worth leaving it to chance on maybe's, possibles or could be's. Might as well switch provider and relax knowing you will have the games, rather than stressing and maybe not even getting it in the end.
Good point - if it matters that much to you, it makes sense.

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I'm willing to bet my house that Sky Atlantic will be on VM within a few months, possibly showing mainly reruns in future. This news may change things slightly:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...nal-shows.html

Qtx 05-07-2013 00:48
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Originally Posted by bamav (Post 35592050)
I'm willing to bet my house that Sky Atlantic will be on VM within a few months, possibly showing mainly reruns in future. This news may change things slightly:
I figured that they would move all the good stuff to a new channel (Sky Atlantic 2?) based on Chads post, so that they could give VM (and possibly BT?) Atlantic but still keep their USP. So maybe new Game of Thrones show on Atlantic 2 first and Atlantic six months later for example. Add in some cheaper original programming too, as per your link.

Chad 05-07-2013 00:51
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Originally Posted by bamav (Post 35592050)
I'm willing to bet my house that Sky Atlantic will be on VM within a few months, possibly showing mainly reruns in future. This news may change things slightly:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...nal-shows.html
It's sad news. For me personally SKY's original programming over the years has been fairly poor. Every now and again they do make something that appeals to me, but in general their efforts tend to fall short. I tend to find that home grown free to air programming on the BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5 runs rings around most things SKY produce. It leaves me scratching my head as the revenue SKY generates should allow them to blow terrestrial TV out of the water.

bubblegun 05-07-2013 00:53
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Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35592060)
I figured that they would move all the good stuff to a new channel (Sky Atlantic 2?) based on Chads post, so that they could give VM (and possibly BT?) Atlantic but still keep their USP. So maybe new Game of Thrones show on Atlantic 2 first and Atlantic six months later for example. Add in some cheaper original programming too, as per your link.
It's more likely they would launch a Sky Atlantic +2years channel and sell that to Virgin.

IMHO

:-) I am joking, btw.

Media Boy UK 05-07-2013 00:59
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35592062)
It's sad news. For me personally SKY's original programming over the years has been fairly poor. Every now and again they do make something that appeals to me, but in general their efforts tend to fall short. I tend to find that home grown free to air programming on the BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5 runs rings around most things SKY produce. It leaves me scratching my head as the revenue SKY generates should allow them to blow terrestrial TV out of the water.
May Sky need to use the money on over pays sports rights (RE the EPL).

Chad 05-07-2013 01:02
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Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35592060)
I figured that they would move all the good stuff to a new channel (Sky Atlantic 2?) based on Chads post, so that they could give VM (and possibly BT?) Atlantic but still keep their USP. So maybe new Game of Thrones show on Atlantic 2 first and Atlantic six months later for example. Add in some cheaper original programming too, as per your link.
I wonder if SKY will use SKY One to house their home grown entertainment with some imported shows moving elsewhere?

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35592065)
May Sky need to use the money on over pays sports rights (RE the EPL).
Sadly that's probably true.

Jameseh 05-07-2013 01:49
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35592067)
I wonder if SKY will use SKY One to house their home grown entertainment with some imported shows moving elsewhere?
Most likely, I'd say Living has more US stuff than 1 at the minute.

jj20x 05-07-2013 05:17
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35591836)
I don't understand why UKTV have made a big thing about Drama only being on Freeview. As pointed out elsewhere, they don't need to ask Sky for permission to broadcast on satellite. The only problem would be getting a SD EPG slot, but closing Blighty resolves that.

Perhaps, like some other freeview channels, it will be subscription on satellite and they mean that they have had to negotiate with Sky about that.
They said they have obtained a licence for Sky, strange terminology but, from that, it appears more likely they will be a subscription channel on Sky. If it was FTA they would have probably mentioned negotiations for carriage on Freesat.

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It's possible that they will wait until the existing carriage agreement expires, but I'd have thought that they would either remove another channel eg as Channel 4 did by removing More4+1 when Channel 4+1 started, or do a straight swap like when heat replaced Q.
Heat replacing Q was basically just the channel being renamed and re-branded. UKTV has gone to great lengths to not make this look like a re-brand. They are closing one channel, then starting another. However, if all it takes to get carriage on VM is removing a channel, Blighty is going. It doesn't look like they are making it that easy.

denphone 05-07-2013 07:26
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35591975)
So much negative speculation on here, isn't there? I don't understand why people can't just wait and see what comes out of the negotiations. I doubt we will hear anything for at least three weeks. But that doesn't mean it will be bad news. VM are just holding out for the best deal, which is in everyone's interests.
Spot on OB.

GrimUpNorth 05-07-2013 10:34
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35592065)
May Sky need to use the money on over pays sports rights (RE the EPL).
Or maybe Rupert's a bit short with a another divorce settlement comimg up :D

Cheers

Grim

Media Boy UK 05-07-2013 11:00
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35592090)
Heat replacing Q was basically just the channel being renamed and re-branded. UKTV has gone to great lengths to not make this look like a re-brand. They are closing one channel, then starting another. However, if all it takes to get carriage on VM is removing a channel, Blighty is going. It doesn't look like they are making it that easy.
It just an rebrand in my eyes.

Maybe it all down to channel numbers -

Virgin Media may want to put Drama on Channel 206 but UKTV may want an lower channel number.


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