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LondonRoad 17-06-2012 18:54

Re: Would you like to see Celtic and Rangers in the English league?
 
The actual loss of Rangers wouldn't have that great an affect in terms of gate money and sponsorship deals for the other SPL Teams.

Rangers don't actually have as large an away support as some people appear to imagine. It's been calculated that an increase of as few as 100 season tickets for a club like Aberdeen would more than compensate for loss of footfall from Rangers fans.

Before Rangers started financially doping Scottish Football, Aberdeen where debt free and had far larger crowds than currently. An Aberdeen FC with the potential to challenge for trophies could easily sell more season tickets.

Some clubs may benefit, e.g. if Dundee where to be in the SPL then both Dundee Utd and St Johnstone would have larger away attendances when Dundee visited.

The big unknown is the TV money. Both Sky and ESPN have indicated they have no intention of withdrawing from covering SPL football, but what happens when the next contract is due for renewal?

No matter what financial hit the rest of the Scottish football takes, Rangers or The Rangers or New Rangers, should not be allowed to play in the SPL next season.

Sporting integrity has left the planet when a team that has cheated for at least a decade, depriving other teams a level playing field to challenge for trophies, is allowed straight back into the top tier of football with less debt than any of the other league members.

Henkesghost 17-06-2012 20:52

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Great post London Road:)

Alan Fry 18-06-2012 12:19

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What team will Rangers fans support if their team is shut down, Celtic might have no love for Rangers, but if they go, they will just end up winning the SPL title all the time!

If Rangers is not allowed to rejoin the SPL (I hope the fans can restart the club from the bottom end of the League!), who will take its place?

Pog66 18-06-2012 13:12

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35443015)
If Rangers is not allowed to rejoin the SPL (I hope the fans can restart the club from the bottom end of the League!), who will take its place?

still to be decided - either Dunfermline won't be relegated or Dundee will also get promoted.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18484238

Alan Fry 18-06-2012 13:32

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Originally Posted by Pog66 (Post 35443046)
still to be decided - either Dunfermline won't be relegated or Dundee will also get promoted.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18484238

I wonder how Dundee United will vote...

Pog66 18-06-2012 14:25

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35443048)
I wonder how Dundee United will vote...

They might relish a tayside derby ...

Alan Fry 18-06-2012 14:46

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Originally Posted by Pog66 (Post 35443092)
They might relish a tayside derby ...

The big question is though, will Celtic vote yes or no?

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Also if Rangers are shut down, will this improve Celtic's chances on moving from the SPL to the EPL?

denphone 18-06-2012 14:48

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35443100)
The big question is though, will Celtic vote yes or no?

---------- Post added at 13:46 ---------- Previous post was at 13:46 ----------

Also if Rangers are shut down, will this improve Celtic's chances on moving from the SPL to the EPL?

Celtic have no chance of moving from the SPL to the EPL.:nono:

Alan Fry 18-06-2012 14:54

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35443103)
Celtic have no chance of moving from the SPL to the EPL.:nono:

I am sure the other 11 club (if Rangers is not among them!) would want a chance of winning the SPL title rather than Celtic winning all the time! (at least the EPL has 3 to 5 team who have a chance of winning it!)

Stephen 18-06-2012 14:55

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35443100)
The big question is though, will Celtic vote yes or no?

---------- Post added at 13:46 ---------- Previous post was at 13:46 ----------

Also if Rangers are shut down, will this improve Celtic's chances on moving from the SPL to the EPL?

I have a feeling they may vote no.

Also Rangers FC plc were shut down. The company was liquidated on Thursday. A new company called The Rangers FC was started on Friday, they may have the assets but they are NOT the same company/Club.

It is due to that reason I think they should not be allowed in the SPL this season. After all the are a brand new team who have never played a football match and technically don't have a playable team right now.

This was reflected by the SPL leaving them off the fixture list for this season.

Alan Fry 18-06-2012 15:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35443111)
I have a feeling they may vote no.

Also Rangers FC plc were shut down. The company was liquidated on Thursday. A new company called The Rangers FC was started on Friday, they may have the assets but they are NOT the same company/Club.

It is due to that reason I think they should not be allowed in the SPL this season. After all the are a brand new team who have never played a football match and technically don't have a playable team right now.

This was reflected by the SPL leaving them off the fixture list for this season.

If the SPL desides to vote no for The "New" Rangers (The Rangers Football Club Ltd) to take the place of The "Old" Rangers (The Rangers Football Club plc). What would happen to Rangers afterwards. Will they have to start from either The Highland Football League, The South of Scotland Football League or The East of Scotland Football League?

The trouble is that if the SPL votes no, then Celtic will almost always win the SPL title each season, that is unless they move to the EPL

Also, if Rangers does close, what team will its fans support? (Certainly not Celtic!)

Stephen 18-06-2012 15:12

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The Rangers would probably go into the Third division.

Alan Fry 18-06-2012 15:17

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35443123)
The Rangers would probably go into the Third division.

Thats not so bad, they have a very good chance to return to the SPL within 5 years!

Stephen 18-06-2012 15:18

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Well if they did start there and won each league they would be promoted back to the SPL after 3 years.

Alan Fry 18-06-2012 15:18

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35443131)
Well if they did start there and won each league they would be promoted back to the SPL after 3 years.

Which I am sure they can do, even with a weaker squad!


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