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martyh 13-01-2012 12:27

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35361063)
The less stops there are, the less people benifit!

well i give up ,anyone else care to join me at the wall

:banghead:

Alan Fry 13-01-2012 12:36

Re: New high speed rail link ...is it worth it ?
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35361064)
well i give up ,anyone else care to join me at the wall

:banghead:

For phase 1 (London to Birmingham), we could have Station around the Chiltern District area!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiltern_(district)

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For phase 2 (Birmingham to Leeds/Manchester) we could have statiosn at Stoke on Trent, East Midlands and Sheffield!

danielf 13-01-2012 12:36

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They don't want it.

Alan Fry 13-01-2012 12:38

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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35361075)
They don't want it.

Who does not want it?

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Information about plans for HS2 reach Scotland:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...-Scotland.html

danielf 13-01-2012 12:38

Re: New high speed rail link ...is it worth it ?
 
The chilterners.

Anyway, I'm out of here. You've made it quite clear there's no point in discussing anything with you.

martyh 13-01-2012 12:38

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35361070)
For phase 1 (London to Birmingham), we could have Station around the Chiltern District area!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiltern_(district)

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For phase 2 (Birmingham to Leeds/Manchester) we could have statiosn at Stoke on Trent, East Midlands and Sheffield!

just repeating yourself doesn't make it any more sensible

Alan Fry 13-01-2012 12:40

Re: New high speed rail link ...is it worth it ?
 
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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35361080)
The chilterners.

Anyway, I'm out of here. You've made it quite clear there's no point in discussing anything with you.

Would they still objected if they had station nearby, that could be of benifit (London to Chilterns in 10 minutes)

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35361082)
just repeating yourself doesn't make it any more sensible

I was clarifying what I was saying about this matter!

Hugh 13-01-2012 13:21

Re: New high speed rail link ...is it worth it ?
 
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35361086)
Would they still objected if they had station nearby, that could be of benifit (London to Chilterns in 10 minutes)

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I was clarifying what I was saying about this matter!

Couple of facts, which you will hopefully take note of.

a) The Chiltern Line is currently having a £250 million upgrade (started 2010, ends 2013), part of which is to reduce journey times.

b) HS2 is a high-speed link, not a short-distance commuter link

Alan Fry 13-01-2012 13:34

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35361132)
Couple of facts, which you will hopefully take note of.

a) The Chiltern Line is currently having a £250 million upgrade (started 2010, ends 2013), part of which is to reduce journey times.

b) HS2 is a high-speed link, not a short-distance commuter link

Well when it opens in 2026 it will effectively become a communiter line to Birmingham, London to Sutton Coldfield (via HS2 and local rail line) be less than 90 minutes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutton_Coldfield

Hugh 13-01-2012 13:35

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Not if it has to keep stopping on the way....

Alan Fry 13-01-2012 13:38

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35361153)
Not if it has to keep stopping on the way....

Even they it would be less then 2 hours which is the length of some communiter journeys by Londoners!

Maggy 13-01-2012 13:38

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I bet it frequently becomes as overcrowded as other mainstream train services with many being left to stand.:erm:

Hugh 13-01-2012 13:46

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35361162)
Even they it would be less then 2 hours which is the length of some communiter journeys by Londoners!

The present train takes just under two hours to get to Birmingham, and after the Chiltern Line upgrade will take an hour and a half.

Really, you do seem to be missing the point of HS2, which is to provide high speed links to Birmingham and beyond, not between London and Brum.

Alan Fry 13-01-2012 13:53

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35361179)
The present train takes just under two hours to get to Birmingham, and after the Chiltern Line upgrade will take an hour and a half.

Really, you do seem to be missing the point of HS2, which is to provide high speed links to Birmingham and beyond, not between London and Brum.

Do you mean 2 hours to Birmingham City centre, I mean less than 2 hours (or even 90 minutes) from Sutton Coldfield (a a suburb of Birmingham) to London City Centre (if the Chiltern Station is built), so HS2 still saves time (even by building a Chiltern Station)

danielf 13-01-2012 14:02

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35361163)
I bet it frequently becomes as overcrowded as other mainstream train services with many being left to stand.:erm:

I may be wrong here, but I thought most (if not all) High Speed rail lines operate with designated seating, so no more tickets are sold once all seats are taken.


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