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Arthurgray50@blu 08-08-2011 16:56

Re: Riots in Tottenham
 
Tottenham then Enfield, now Hackney, cars on fire.

Gary L 08-08-2011 16:57

Re: Riots in Tottenham
 
If it carries on the way it's going we can have an hour long show at 5pm every night to name, claim and shame the looter.

the shops putting up the reward money.

Arthurgray50@blu 08-08-2011 17:02

Re: Riots in Tottenham
 
Gary L, l totally agree with you, but l think that will enrage them, as the Army carry guns and they will use them if needed, but then you will have community leaders saying there actions are too strong, The residents should be allowed to do what they have top do to the **** and that is what they are.

Sirius 08-08-2011 17:17

Re: Riots in Tottenham
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35284921)
Gary L, l totally agree with you, but l think that will enrage them, as the Army carry guns and they will use them if needed, but then you will have community leaders saying there actions are too strong, The residents should be allowed to do what they have top do to the **** and that is what they are.

So infact what your saying is go ahead and loot the shops because the police should step back !

I have to agree with Gary. Get the army in there complete with baton guns

Tuftus 08-08-2011 17:26

Re: Riots in Tottenham
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35284928)
Get the army in there complete with baton guns

This.

The way I see it is that these people do not respect the Police, let alone law and order.

An example needs to be set that we will just not tolerate this behaviour in our society.

:mad:

Dush 08-08-2011 17:30

Re: Riots in Tottenham
 
"There's a reason we separate military and the police: one fights the enemy of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people."

--Commander William Adama

Sirius 08-08-2011 17:33

Re: Riots in Tottenham
 
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Originally Posted by Dush (Post 35284931)

--Commander William Adama

You do realise we are dealing with reality here not some tv show. :)

Arthurgray50@blu 08-08-2011 17:38

Re: Riots in Tottenham
 
No Sirus, l am not saying that, the police should be allowed to get on with the job, baton, cs spray the lot.

Those stupid mindless people have now sent the whole of London on panic stations.

Dush 08-08-2011 17:39

Re: Riots in Tottenham
 
Still true, you can't set an army onto your own people. That's what the police is there for and trained for. You'd have a blood bath on your hands if you set in a shooting army. I think avoiding that is more important than defending property rights.

Sirius 08-08-2011 17:43

Re: Riots in Tottenham
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35284937)
No Sirus, l am not saying that, the police should be allowed to get on with the job, baton, cs spray the lot.

Those stupid mindless people have now sent the whole of London on panic stations.

:clap:

thenry 08-08-2011 17:44

Re: Riots in Tottenham
 
Society in areas are unbelievable. Theres no respect at all and as for common sense, well thats brushed aside which makes me sick to my stomach. Common sense is a gift yet loads of people take it for granted whom then encounter arrogance. The police needs a shake up, its a joke. And these societies need a wake up call. The Government, well thats a whole different story.

Sirius 08-08-2011 17:44

Re: Riots in Tottenham
 
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Originally Posted by Dush (Post 35284938)
Still true, you can't set an army onto your own people. That's what the police is there for and trained for. You'd have a blood bath on your hands if you set in a shooting army. I think avoiding that is more important than defending property rights.

Where did i say shoot them, I said issue baton guns. The army can be deployed with none lethal weapons and shields

Tuftus 08-08-2011 17:49

Re: Riots in Tottenham
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35284944)
Where did i say shoot them, I said issue baton guns. The army can be deployed with none lethal weapons and shields

Indeed, besides, the Royal Marines and Paras have a fair bit of experience in policing riots I hear...

Sirius 08-08-2011 17:55

Re: Riots in Tottenham
 
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Originally Posted by Tuftus (Post 35284946)
Indeed, besides, the Royal Marines and Paras have a fair bit of experience in policing riots I hear...

As do many other including the regiment i was in. Dealt with riots in Londonderry and Belfast. I have had to fire a baton gun in anger and have NEVER pointed a loaded rifle at a civilian ever.

Maggy 08-08-2011 17:57

Re: Riots in Tottenham
 
With all due respect to our old soldiers this is 2011 not the 1930s.;)


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