Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34997883)

Not really. it was originally about the protests and violence involved when it comes to new mosques being built. it was Xaccers who started the parking thing earlier on. I have spoken about all sorts of parking and congestion problems.



It maybe my opinion to you now because there's nothing else to give you. can you present facts to state it's otherwise? or is it just your opinion without any basis for thinking that?

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34997889)

As there is no allowance making it ok to park a car because you are visiting a mosque (for prayers or otherwise) in either the Birmingham or Croydon parking regulations, I can only conclude that you are talking rubbish....AGAIN. I have yet to come across this is any parking regulation literature (I am now lookign at Islington's council website)

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34997897)

They just overlook it. turn a blind eye. take into account the reasons for why it's happening and realising that doing something may cost ill feeling and money?

:soapbox::sniper: :D


This is an example of how it does happen. read some of the comments too.
http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Counci...ing.6134277.jp

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34997904)

Definately ignoring the problem then..... hmmmm yes ok.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34997908)

From my link.

A MOTORIST has accused councillors of "ignoring" parking problems at a city mosque they pledged to tackle a year ago.

Mark Shepherd, of Norton, wrote to Coun Ian Auckland, Sheffield Council cabinet member for transport, saying: "Having read in The Star last year of your concern, and that of your colleagues in this current administration, regarding the illegal parking outside the mosque on Wolseley Road, I was shocked the situation has been ignored since."

They were ignoring it at the start :rolleyes:



When it becomes obvious that the council will have to do something about providing parking spaces? when you admit to a problem it usually costs money to fix it with councils.

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34997914)

Are you being deliberately obtuse or just stupid.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34997908)

When it becomes obvious that the council will have to do something about providing parking spaces? when you admit to a problem it usually costs money to fix it with councils.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34997897)

They just overlook it. turn a blind eye.

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34997941)

So you base that on one unknown person's say-so?

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34997941)

So you base that on one unknown person's say-so?

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34997943)

Russ, dont waste your time mate. I regret giving him the time of day to his baseless posts.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34997958)

You've quoted me wrong Russ.

it's They just overlook it. turn a blind eye. take into account the reasons for why it's happening and realising that doing something may cost ill feeling and money?

See. it's now thoughts being questioned. not as how it looks the way you quoted to make it look like fact.

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34997803)

The Friday prayer is seen by most muslims as the most important 'regular' prayer to perform in congregation. Hence why you get a huge amount of people outside mosques on Friday afternoon. Because of the amount of people women will not attend in smaller mosques (as the emphasis is on men attending the prayer in congregation) but many large mosques have separate rooms.

What I dont understand about arguments that have been bought up by the parking issue is that illegally parked cars, be they outside the mosque or on a high street, will get ticketed or clamped. The mosques I regularly go to in South London are all on red routes - which limits parking extremely. Most people park in bays or legally on the road. They are also there for an hour maximum. I have seen cars get clamped and ticketed - but never the same car get ticketed or clamped twice. Generally people learn their lesson and park legally next time.

Yes I agree double parking and obstructions will happen. But there are ways that someone being illegally parked can deal with it. And there are fines in place to prevent it happening.

As for being penned in because cars are obstructing the driveway - a few years back my neighbour decided to park in front of my dropped down kerb as she thought she was entitled to do so. A quick call to the locall police station sorted out the problem in a few minutes.

Also bear in mind that mosques do not want to constantly have complaints regarding parking directed at them as it leads to hostility and tension between muslims and neighbouring non muslims. Quite a few mosques I know have people standing outside ensuring people are parked with consideration to others.

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34998015)

What makes you think "they just overlook it"?

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34997803)

The Friday prayer is seen by most muslims as the most important 'regular' prayer to perform in congregation. Hence why you get a huge amount of people outside mosques on Friday afternoon. Because of the amount of people women will not attend in smaller mosques (as the emphasis is on men attending the prayer in congregation) but many large mosques have separate rooms.

What I dont understand about arguments that have been bought up by the parking issue is that illegally parked cars, be they outside the mosque or on a high street, will get ticketed or clamped. The mosques I regularly go to in South London are all on red routes - which limits parking extremely. Most people park in bays or legally on the road. They are also there for an hour maximum. I have seen cars get clamped and ticketed - but never the same car get ticketed or clamped twice. Generally people learn their lesson and park legally next time.

Yes I agree double parking and obstructions will happen. But there are ways that someone being illegally parked can deal with it. And there are fines in place to prevent it happening.

As for being penned in because cars are obstructing the driveway - a few years back my neighbour decided to park in front of my dropped down kerb as she thought she was entitled to do so. A quick call to the locall police station sorted out the problem in a few minutes.

Also bear in mind that mosques do not want to constantly have complaints regarding parking directed at them as it leads to hostility and tension between muslims and neighbouring non muslims. Quite a few mosques I know have people standing outside ensuring people are parked with consideration to others.