Re: Ban the burkha ?
 

For the secruity aspex we should BAN the burka, If a motorcyclist enters a building for secruity reasons, he MUST take his helmet off, so why can't the burka be removed in the street for the same reason.

Re: Ban the burkha ?
 

[QUOTE=Arthurgray50@blu;34948468]For the secruity aspex we should BAN the burka, If a motorcyclist enters a building for secruity reasons, he MUST take his helmet off, so why can't the burka be removed in the street for the same reason.[/QUOTE]

not in the street Arthur thats going to far

Re: Ban the burkha ?
 

Isn't it usually that case that buildings that ban motorcycle helmets are places like banks which can set their own rules, and hence why can't they set their own rules with regards to the burkha?

Re: Ban the burkha ?
 

Because you can't discriminate on the basis of religion but you can on the basis of mode of transport to the bank.

Re: Ban the burkha ?
 

Do you agree that hats and hoodies should also be banned from the street too?

Also have you heard of many people committing crimes while disguised under a burkha?

Re: Ban the burkha ?
 

already addressed that Russ and there has been quite a few in recent years examples in previous posts

Re: Ban the burkha ?
 

Voluntary removal under the right and correct system and in the RIGHT place..Say at the airport or banks or hospital or clinics..

But not a complete ban as Farage and Arthur are advocating.

from the links provide in the OP

The latter quote really does imply it's a Muslim thing in particular..:erm:

Re: Ban the burkha ?
 

Did you address how many crimes have been committed by people wearing hoodies and hats whilst not having calls for those items to be banned?

Re: Ban the burkha ?
 

Difficult one really i would have thought, not having the official figures to hand nor of course for those commiting crimes whilst women wearing burkas or men posing as a burka clad women. Wheres those fiures when you need them.

AS has already been stated that certain shopping precincts,shops,banks, petrols stations have been know to ban the wearing of hoodies/hats, again thought those figures are difficult to come by.. any help out there collecting them.

Re: Ban the burkha ?
 

the comparison i used was banks /posts offices .I used these because we already have bans on these items in such places so i was trying to make the point that criminals are now using the burka as a alternative
I am fully aware that crimes are still commited with hoodies and crash helmets ,like street muggings ,we can never stop this but what we can do is minimalize the opportunities criminals have .We also have to concider places were facial recognition is vital like at airports ,is the person entering /leaving the country realy who it says on the passport?

Re: Ban the burkha ?
 

By the way maybe we should ban baseball caps as well because they hide faces on the CCTV. :scratch:
















































By the way I'm not actually being serious..:D

Re: Ban the burkha ?
 

I'll make my position clear on this - I think the majority of anti-burkha posters on here have their view simply because it's based in Islam, nothing more.

I'm all for the banning of any types of clothing for security purposes in banks, airports etc whether a burkha, helmet, hat etc

But banning it from all public places? That's just pure Islamiphobia. There is no evidence to suggest wearing something which completely covers someone's face in public creates a significant security risk. If you insist on burkhas being banned in public then you have to agree to helmets, hats, opened umbrellas and hoodies being banned too otherwise you're on the way to supporting an 1984 type state.

Re: Ban the burkha ?
 

I'm not for the total ban either, security risk yes it can be as already pointed out, it's difficult to identify a person wearing one, the implications of getting there ID must be a absolute nightmare. Of course asking anyone for there id will cause some discomfort but to have the added problem of,"You've insulted my religion,beliefs" whatever is another weapon that THE extremist will use it to there advantage, so people want to counter that by saying,"well ban the burka then".

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34948506) I'll make my position clear on this - I think the majority of anti-burkha posters on here have their view simply because it's based in Islam, nothing more.

i aggree with that Russ ,
incidently there was a case a while back concerning Shabina Begum that addressed this issue .Eventually she lost her case, i'm not sure if a precedent was set but a ruling was made that

"The legal status of Islamic dress in schools was clarified by the Shabina Begum case, where the Judicial Committee of the House of Lords ruled that freedom to manifest religious beliefs was not absolute, and could be restricted"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijab_by_country

Re: Ban the burkha ?
 

Its quite simple if you refuse to remove your facial covering being it a motorcycle helmet, hat, veil or any other garment that may be covering your face when going into a place that requires your face to be seen then you should be disallowed from entry.