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Mobes 22-03-2010 15:02

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Yeah i agree 100% about the red button thing and sport...if nothing else is sorted out then that must be! I pay Sky through VM for their sports package (HD in my opinion if different) and i should be able to access all their coverage at leats in SD.

richard1960 22-03-2010 15:03

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Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 34984804)
If the Cameron wins it is not as if the first day in office he rip OFCOM to shreds he has much bigger fish to fry, and even big senior members of the Conservative party have voiced concerns on plans to do so. Plus the hardwork is already done, the matter can be reffered to The OFT the Competition commission. Stripping OFCOM of powers will only delay the inevitable.

There is also the EU who the case can be referred to, they have already forced Sky Italia to give up their presence on DTT in Italy. If there is one thing the EU love, it is taking on the big boys.

Sky have a duty to share what they have built with the rest of the industry, they may have invested heavily but if you are the only game in town you should not be able to with hold content as they currently do with the red button even though Cable customers pay the same.

Another story has surfaced, although I can't believe there is any truth to it, OFCOM may force Sky to offer sports and movies on DTT before Picnic http://www.newstatesman.com/broadcas...ia-ofcom-bskyb

Yes i pretty much agree with the above points Zantarous,although i would be amazed if ofcom made sky offer premium content on DTT before picnic,but it could be a surprise one though i would be amazed at completely.

zantarous 22-03-2010 16:56

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Interesting snip it at the VMHD Blog http://vmhd.blogspot.com/

It is similar to a posting on DS where a poster said that Sky Sports 3 and 4 were not part of the regulation. Interestingly also Disney Cinemagic is also apart of the review, I didn't realise that was a Sky run channel. The only movie channel not under the review was Sky Movies Classics.

---------- Post added at 17:56 ---------- Previous post was at 17:53 ----------

Also there seems to be lost of posts on DS saying that the HD access charge should be about £5-£6. No links with sources yet.

zantarous 29-03-2010 21:47

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Looks like OFCOM has done a half arsed job here http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...eup-sky-sports

Looks like Sky have plenty of wiggle room with moving fixtures to Sky Sports 3 and 4 to keep up prices.

Andrewcrawford23 29-03-2010 21:54

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Very true ;) but some people in europe have been watching the review are interested int ehr esults ;) lets jsut says sources i have suggest if they do nt feel it goes further neough they might launcht there own invesgation in sky as a whole including tie up with channels etc and they wont be so lenite

zantarous 29-03-2010 21:56

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Would that be our friends at the EU who like to take on the big boys and over regulate everything? Actually I quite like them guys they may seem over meddling but you need someone to act in the interest in the consumer and not the rich businessmen that have enough wealth to buy what they want.

TheDon 29-03-2010 22:28

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Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 34990508)
Looks like OFCOM has done a half arsed job here http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...eup-sky-sports

Looks like Sky have plenty of wiggle room with moving fixtures to Sky Sports 3 and 4 to keep up prices.

There's no justification for ofcom to intervene on sky sports 3 & 4 at the moment though.

The question you have to ask is will Sky do something blatantly aimed at avoiding the regulation? I don't think they will. It's in their best interests to co-operate with ofcom, because if they don't then they could very easily see themselves sliced in half.

Moving premier league fixtures to the secondary channels when there isn't anything of a higher importance on the main channels simply to allow them to charge more is a textbook example of abuse of a monopolistic position, and they'd be dragged over hot coals for doing it.

The article is essentially just scare mongering.

Anyway, the cost of the channels is of secondary importance to the availability of HD and the red button, that's the crux of the report, the pricing isn't that bad.

zantarous 29-03-2010 22:32

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The pricing is everything on these channels, not so much for the consumer but for the resellers like Virgin and BT. They simply are unable to make a profit on selling these services, HD and red button are important seeing as we pay full whack. But the pricing in the what the resellers have raised the complaint about.

TheDon 29-03-2010 22:42

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Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 34990551)
The pricing is everything on these channels, not so much for the consumer but for the resellers like Virgin and BT. They simply are unable to make a profit on selling these services, HD and red button are important seeing as we pay full whack. But the pricing in the what the resellers have raised the complaint about.

It can be argued they don't have a right to profit on the channels, as long as they aren't making a loss whilst pricing them competitively then there's not a huge issue.

They can make their profit on other services that customers will take with them. Without access to the same service though they won't get the option as customers will simply go else where.

It's the same principle as loss leaders in super markets, they're used to get the customers in, and then you make the money elsewhere.

If you don't have the same services though you can't get the customers in, that's why HD and the red button are more important than being able to profit on reselling the channels.

donkbong 30-03-2010 13:56

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Hello guys, I'm i rightly saying that Ofcom Pay TV Reports was suppose to come out today.

zantarous 30-03-2010 14:01

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I had a look at DS and a google for it but can't find anything yet.

donkbong 30-03-2010 14:10

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Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 34990937)
I had a look at DS and a google for it but can't find anything yet.

Shall wait for answser from Media Boy Kingstar!!!:monkey:

Media Boy UK 30-03-2010 14:18

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The Mail on Sunday says it was out Today.

Acidphire21 30-03-2010 14:20

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at worst itll be out tomorrow as they did say it was going to be published by end of march yea? or did i just make that up lol?

donkbong 30-03-2010 14:21

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Originally Posted by Acidphire21 (Post 34990962)
at worst itll be out tomorrow as they did say it was going to be published by end of march yea? or did i just make that up lol?

Maybe tommorow it will be published mate :dozey:


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