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Maggy 28-05-2008 20:40

Re: New Virgin traffic management - so that's why it's slow!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 34561640)
Please for Gods sake bring back Ntl.


I never thought I'd read that in a CF thread....:D

TraxData 28-05-2008 20:45

Re: New STM Confirmed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 34561859)
I knew that was about to happen as well. However my source would have never given me any more info if he had seen me post about it. ;)


Just made a call to someone in the know, who said he knows nothing about overnight STM running on a trial at the moment. Says it was ruled out of the equation for now. ? He might be wrong but his info is normally accurate and has matched a lot of your posts in the past.

The trials were made public (to certain staff) today after a meeting, only a small amount of people know about it right now.

Pm me for more info.

Gary L 28-05-2008 20:56

Re: New STM Confirmed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 34561882)
That is exactly what needs to be done - I fully take on board VM have to protect their network for stability.

They can protect it by stop selling the product 100 times over.

Quote:

What I am taking exception to is that Virgin Media are advertising it as a No limiting service. So customers who see this will assume this is exactly what they can do.
And they know that is what a customer will assume. they want him or her to assume. if you were to tell the top man this is what's happening, he'll say tough we can get away with it.

peanut 28-05-2008 21:01

Re: New STM/Virgin traffic managent confirmed - so that's why it's slow!
 
I think they should know how much bandwidth you use and how long per month you've been throttled then recalculate the bill accordingly.

I hope this gets all the negative feedback going and hope some rules change. (Though I seriously doubt it).

I think I might have to vote with my feet on this one. :(

indie1982 28-05-2008 22:00

Re: New STM/Virgin traffic managent confirmed - so that's why it's slow!
 
FFS, I've been STMd after less than 700MB and out of hours!

I'm in TS5, just had the upgrade to 10Mb and I've been out all day. Came in from work downloaded 10.5.3 for OS X (420MB) at about 5PM, almost hit 1000KB/s for most of the download. Then I started on the iPhone SDK (1200MB) at about 9:15PM.

After 300MB of the iPhone SDK I can't get any faster than 300KB/s. I've opened some other downloads from ubuntu.virginmedia.com and I get no faster than 300KB/s :(

Gary L 28-05-2008 22:08

Re: New STM/Virgin traffic managent confirmed - so that's why it's slow!
 
There has been a lot of reports of people being STMd either out of hours or well below the allowed limit. support say they are reporting it but nothing has come back from them. what is to stop VM from applying reduced speeds to anyone no matter how much they download or what ever time of day just to keep things from grinding to a halt and to enable them to add new customers?

Absolutely nothing.

Zain 28-05-2008 22:26

Re: New STM/Virgin traffic managent confirmed - so that's why it's slow!
 
whats the bloody use of the new STM management policy...the old one (4-9pm) which is still currently going on btw, is just as bad.

slowcoach 28-05-2008 23:16

Re: New STM/Virgin traffic managent confirmed - so that's why it's slow!
 
The next step will be to turn off Broadband at midnight with the excuse that only 3% of users ever use it after midnight anyway so it won’t impact on most users, and you can still download 15,000 mp3’s each day.
Everywhere Branson goes the pox is sure to follow soon after.

Gary L 28-05-2008 23:21

Re: New STM/Virgin traffic managent confirmed - so that's why it's slow!
 
The only reason they use mp3s as an example is (1) they think you're an idiot, and (2) it amounts to thousands. where do you get thousands of legal mp3s from and how much would it cost you?
This isn't Branson's doing, it's NTL's.

stenelly 28-05-2008 23:29

Re: New STM/Virgin traffic managent confirmed - so that's why it's slow!
 
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/...sage-customers
i think virgin are on a sticky wickett if they try to dictate at what times of the day and how mutch you can d/load by the way as annyone noticed how quick they are to reduce your connection and how long after the time its supposed to be back to full speed it takes to come back to a reasnable speed

slowcoach 28-05-2008 23:30

Re: New STM/Virgin traffic managent confirmed - so that's why it's slow!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34562055)
This isn't Branson's doing, it's NTL's.

This is typical Branson, I have been stitched up with him before, why do you think he is always smiling, it's what he does for his kicks.

The next phase will be to gradually reduce the amount you can download before STM cuts in, I await Traxdata's next announcement.

Gary L 28-05-2008 23:37

Re: New STM/Virgin traffic managent confirmed - so that's why it's slow!
 
I always tell myself the grinning is from something stuck up his bum.

stenelly 28-05-2008 23:50

Re: New STM/Virgin traffic managent confirmed - so that's why it's slow!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stenelly (Post 34562061)
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/...sage-customers
i think virgin are on a sticky wickett if they try to dictate at what times of the day and how mutch you can d/load by the way as annyone noticed how quick they are to reduce your connection and how long after the time its supposed to be back to full speed it takes to come back to a reasnable speed

Wed, 28 May 2008 22:39:07 UTC

Test 1: 1024K took 13828 ms = 74.1 KB/sec, approx 611 Kbps, 0.6 Mbps
Test 2: 1024K took 14750 ms = 69.4 KB/sec, approx 572 Kbps, 0.56 Mbps
Test 3: 1024K took 14766 ms = 69.3 KB/sec, approx 571 Kbps, 0.56 Mbps
Test 4: 2048K took 40500 ms = 50.6 KB/sec, approx 417 Kbps, 0.41 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 543 Kbps, 0.53 :shocked:Mbps
by the way im suposed to be on 4 meg

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Originally Posted by Zain (Post 34562009)
whats the bloody use of the new STM management policy...the old one (4-9pm) which is still currently going on btw, is just as bad.

its now 10 am till 3 pm as well next it will be 9 pm till 10 am

Ben B 28-05-2008 23:52

Re: New STM/Virgin traffic managent confirmed - so that's why it's slow!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stenelly (Post 34562086)
its now 10 am till 3 pm as well

What?! O2 broadband is looking even more promising now.....

stenelly 29-05-2008 00:00

Re: New STM/Virgin traffic managent confirmed - so that's why it's slow!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ben_b (Post 34562089)
What?! O2 broadband is looking even more promising now.....

its now 10 am till 3 pm as well
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/...sage-customers
check the link


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