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arcamalpha2004 06-04-2008 08:43
Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by checker (Post 34521992)
Need and want two different things.;)

Ofcourse :) why have a ferari when you can have a fiat uno?

No disrespect to fiat owners ;)

But to turn it on its head, if ferari were run by vm fiat dealerships would be busting right now.;)

ahardie 06-04-2008 09:58
Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
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Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004 (Post 34521976)
Its a nice little carrot to dangle in public I think.

But why not spend the money on making sure that people get 100% speed they pay for now?

Makes sense to me but I dont see things in numbers of customers paying " x " amount of money= very happy richard branson.

Forget that there are speed issues at the moment, lets crank the speed up higher, the mugs ( in all respect ) will come in their droves.

There should be no speed increase until they get their act together on what people are being duped out of now.
It's quite possible that after VM have upgraded their networks people wont have speed issues. It is their stated intention to concentrate available funds on making their broadband product the best on the market by introducing Docsis 3 etc. For many people, if they are not in an oversubscribed area, it is already the best.
BTW Arcam, have you got VM broadband?

slowcoach 06-04-2008 12:41
Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
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Originally Posted by popper (Post 34521933)
slow coach your data is in error.
My bad for repeating what I heard on an an American tech news podcast. :dunce:

popper 06-04-2008 17:23
Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
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Originally Posted by slowcoach (Post 34522148)
My bad for repeating what I heard on an an American tech news podcast. :dunce:
;) not your fault slowcoach, the American pod casts are fun,but many are no better than the tech write ups that always use mbit instead of Mbit, or the AVC/H264 writers that call it 'Mpeg4', instead of 'Mpeg4 part10' ,'Mpeg4' being the old DivX/Xvid in the spec OC.

|Kippa| 07-04-2008 08:28
Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
Didn't Virgin Media have 5mbit upload rate in the 50mbit trials?

arcamalpha2004 07-04-2008 09:47
Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 34522032)
It's quite possible that after VM have upgraded their networks people wont have speed issues. It is their stated intention to concentrate available funds on making their broadband product the best on the market by introducing Docsis 3 etc. For many people, if they are not in an oversubscribed area, it is already the best.
BTW Arcam, have you got VM broadband?

But for people in an oversubscribed area, vm could have sorted that one, its the proverbial 2 fingers but thanks for your money.

Yes I do have VM broadband, where was the sense in the question? :erm:

TimIgoe 07-04-2008 09:53
Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
Over subscribed areas need new hardware to fix the problem - why put 'old' new equipment in when they know they'll be pulling in 'new' new equipment very soon - patch up the problem as a short term solution while they sort out the main problem by upgrading the whole network - sounds like a better answer ini the long term to me.

I'd certainly rather they went down that line, rather than upgrade twice - possibly cause downtime twice while work is carried out, and potentially need to charge us more for the extra hardware (that would become redundant fast as people are moved to the new hardware)

arcamalpha2004 07-04-2008 10:51
Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
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Originally Posted by TimIgoe (Post 34522736)
Over subscribed areas need new hardware to fix the problem - why put 'old' new equipment in when they know they'll be pulling in 'new' new equipment very soon - patch up the problem as a short term solution while they sort out the main problem by upgrading the whole network - sounds like a better answer ini the long term to me.

I'd certainly rather they went down that line, rather than upgrade twice - possibly cause downtime twice while work is carried out, and potentially need to charge us more for the extra hardware (that would become redundant fast as people are moved to the new hardware)

And I, like so many others, would like what I pay for now.

Then if they want to put " new new " equipment in and charge more for it I will have the option.

Chrysalis 07-04-2008 11:04
Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
really analogue and over subscibed areas should be getting this first as they the areas that need the investment, but same old story they get brushed aside as its favourable and cheaper to upgrade the better of areas.

ahardie 07-04-2008 11:25
Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
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Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004 (Post 34522732)
But for people in an oversubscribed area, vm could have sorted that one, its the proverbial 2 fingers but thanks for your money.

Yes I do have VM broadband, where was the sense in the question? :erm:
The sense of the question was that in spite of your deep seated hatred of anything and everything Virgin Media does you are still a cable customer. If VM can get even you to subscribe to cable broadband they must be doing something right.

Mick Fisher 07-04-2008 20:32
Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
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Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 34522790)
The sense of the question was that in spite of your deep seated hatred of anything and everything Virgin Media does you are still a cable customer. If VM can get even you to subscribe to cable broadband they must be doing something right.
:rolleyes:

ahardie 07-04-2008 20:48
Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
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Originally Posted by Mick Fisher (Post 34523196)
:rolleyes:
I knew you would agree with me Mick. ;)

popper 11-05-2008 01:41
Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
it doesnt state full (as apposed bronze/silver)cert, but its assumed at this time.

as for the model No.s, thats yet to be published!

http://www.lightreading.com/document...53444&site=cdn
"Modems, CMTSs Break Docsis 3.0 Barrier https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/09/22.gifMAY 09, 2008https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/09/22.gifDiscuss >https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/09/22.gifhttps://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/09/22.gifCableLabs on Friday awarded the coveted Docsis 3.0 stamp to three cable modem termination systems (CMTSs) and six cable modems, marking the first consumer-side gear ever to be certified for the new spec, following Wave 58. (See Docsis 3.0 Gear Launched.)
On the modem front, CableLabs certified models from Ambit Broadband , Arris Group Inc. (Nasdaq: ARRS - message board), Cisco Systems Inc. (Nasdaq: CSCO - message board), SMC Networks Inc. , and two modems from Motorola Inc. (NYSE: MOT - message board).

They mark the first modems to be awarded certification for Docsis 3.0, a platform that employs IPv6 capabilities and uses channel bonding techniques to produce shared Internet burst speeds of at least 160 Mbit/s downstream, and 120 Mbit/s in the upstream.

All of the 3.0-certified modems (we're checking for model details now) are believed to be powered by Texas Instruments Inc. (NYSE: TXN - message board)'s Puma 5 silicon platform. "

"

on the related US markets (and my long standing wireless DOCSIS Idea for Vm in the future, so expect new Wimax Docsis3 kit soon perhaps) theres more news.

http://www.lightreading.com/document...53154&site=cdn
"Cable Plays Clearwire Cardhttps://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/09/22.gif
MAY 07, 2008https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/09/22.gif

It's official: The cable industry is getting into the WiMax biz in a big way.

As expected, three major U.S. cable operators that serve more than 39.4 million subscribers combined -- Comcast Corp. (Nasdaq: CMCSA, CMCSK), Time Warner Cable Inc. (NYSE: TWC - message board), and Bright House Networks – are pumping millions into a new WiMax-powered "mobile broadband company" formed by Sprint Nextel Corp. (NYSE: S - message board) and Clearwire LLC (Nasdaq: CLWR - message board). "


"This transaction is attractive to us strategically and financially, and puts in place very attractive wholesale relationships for access to Sprint's existing 3G and Clearwire's 4G networks, giving us complete flexibility to introduce wireless mobility in terms of product innovation and deployment," said Comcast chairman and CEO Brian Roberts, in a statement.

Time Warner Cable president and CEO Glenn Britt called the deal "a financially prudent way for us to add mobility to our offerings when our customers demand it."

and theres still others trying to do it wrong and on the cheap (related to the VM BOD perhaps ;) ) and using outdated wifi only (not the new wifi/Wimax combined chipsets available off the shelf TODAY)tech before they even start

http://www.lightreading.com/document...53325&site=cdn
"Cablevision High on WiFihttps://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/09/22.gifMAY 08, 2008

Discuss >https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/09/22.gifhttps://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2008/09/22.gifCablevision Systems Corp. (NYSE: CVC - message board) has some big wireless plans in place, but none of them have to do with Wednesday's big WiMax deal involving Comcast Corp. (Nasdaq: CMCSA, CMCSK), Time Warner Cable Inc. (NYSE: TWC - message board), Bright House Networks , and the other folks linked financially to the "new" Clearwire LLC (Nasdaq: CLWR - message board). (See Cable Plays Clearwire Card and Sprint, Clearwire Create $14.5B WiMax Giant.)

Speaking this morning during a conference call to discuss the company's solid first quarter, Cablevision COO Tom Rutledge said the operator is embarking on a deployment that will throw a WiFi-powered canopy over Cablevision's entire footprint in New York and Connecticut.

The WiFi mesh network is two years from completion, but Cablevision plans to give its base of cable modem customers free access to it to, and offer it to non-subs for a yet-to-be-determined fee. As designed, consumers will be able to hook in using any WiFi-capable device. "

popper 12-05-2008 20:30
Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.
 
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Originally Posted by sollp (Post 34467423)
Popper, i have briefly looked at the wireless solution in the US, but what i have seen is CATV amplifiers in certain areas with a wifi-max solution fitted to them. This would obviously work due to the CATV networks being on Telegraph pole, well most i have seen anyway.

Now we know in this country the great opposition to Mobile phone masts being erected, so im not sure, due to these 2 facts that it would be a viable solution in this country to have wifi-max,(im assuming this is what your on about). Or are we on about wimax from mobile phone masts already in situ.
BTW, the US cableVision Wifi over cable are apparently going to be using those same Wireless Docsis2.0 units i pointed too after your post above.

silly doing that i think, as they could at the very least commission a new Docsis3 wireless unit for the upcoming two year plan they have set.

personally id advise they (and VM if they ever get into gear and follow them on this sometime in the UK)look to one or two of the combined Wifi/Wimax chipset SOCs available off the shelf right now for a new long term set of kit.

if not the far more advanced old tec of combining several freqs together (i forget the name but its linked in this thread somewere above by me ;) ) to improve overall throughput and Qos and far better Mesh etc.... ;)http://www.dailywireless.org/2008/05/08/7746/

DEADS 06-07-2008 17:34
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so any news on the 50 meg service , whats the role out date anyone?


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