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More of a pairing than a coalition, then.

FYI, Re "UN resolution giving permission for action to be taken"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/3661640.stm
Questions from Owen Bennett-Jones, BBC World Service
Answers from Kofi Annan, then UN Secretary-General
"Q: I wanted to ask you that - do you think that the resolution that was passed on Iraq before the war did actually give legal authority to do what was done?

A: Well, I'm one of those who believe that there should have been a second resolution because the Security Council indicated that if Iraq did not comply there will be consequences. But then it was up to the Security Council to approve or determine what those consequences should be.
Q: So you don't think there was legal authority for the war?
A: I have stated clearly that it was not in conformity with the Security Council - with the UN Charter.
Q: It was illegal?
A: Yes, if you wish.
Q: It was illegal? A: Yes, I have indicated it is not in conformity with the UN Charter, from our point of view and from the Charter point of view it was illegal."

So the UN Secretary-General thinks the action was illegal - doesn't sound much like "UN permission for action to be taken". ;)

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i hope everyone cheering on the hanging also support the killing of UK citizens abroad (drug smugglers etc) as your either for it or against it

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Twists mine too, if the UN had teeth and a peacemaking force rather than a peacekeeping force and took proper action against tyrants, sending a message that the world would not tollerate such behaviour, then as they worked through them, you'd probably get a domino effect, where they start behaving so they can remain in power.

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Is there a legal definition of "much of a coalition" or an ISO number?

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To quote your earlier postings -

Originally Posted by foreverwar http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/im...s/viewpost.gif
Xaccers

you keep asking questions - how about answering some?

1) Did we find WMD? (one of the reasons for invasion) We didn't need to for the action to be legal.
2) Was there any proof that Saddam was sponsoring or supporting Al-Quaeda? (another of the reasons for the invasion) Wasn't any need to for the action to be legal.

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but the un is undermined at the same time by those that criticise it. it is far from perfect as an organisation but preferable to nations assuming for themselves the role of world police force. and cocking it up

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ok, you made me laugh ;-) :-) my definition is that a coalition of two is "not much" compared to a coalition of many more than two ;-)

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Interesting as according to the UN resolutions it was.
Perhaps Kofi was a little upset that his son had been found out to be extremely corrupt?

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Perhaps if more nations had decided to take action rather than line their own pockets and leave Saddam in power to line them further, then the outcome would have been more stable.

A bottle of water isn't much water compared to a lake, but it doesn't stop it being water, or refreshing.

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it could of course be argued that the us's intervention in particular was to line their own pockets.



not a terribly helpful analogy though is it. ok, you cant swim and can choose to be thrown into a paddling pool or a lake. which would you choose? they're both water. ;-)

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Yes some people may suggest that without looking at the costs of the war, and the political backlash that it has caused, you're right, some people might suggest it was all about oil and making america rich, despite it being estimated to take 10 years and several billion dollars to get Iraqi oil production up to the 1990 level, sure, some people might suggest it.
But then some people might also suggest the moon is made of cheese.


I'd rather be thrown into the paddling pool as it's "not much" of a lake ;)

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we agree :-) (well as long as i dont bang on about the iraqi reconstruction contracts.... ;-) )

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Yes, because some people would forget that most big businesses are very good at tax avoidance so a large portion of that income would not go to the US.

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:eek::shocked::eeek::shocking::spin::hyper::omg:

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Damn! That must mean that France and Germany not being part of the coalition can't have been for monetary reasons... Unless French and German companies are not good at tax avoidance...

Of course, many large US corporations are more than happy to pay directly into the coffers of the Republican party.

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Probably best to avoid the water in Iraq
http://www.synergynet.co.uk/sheffiel...s/poisened.htm

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Hardly, considering that the financial income France was hoping to obtain would have only occured if Saddam was still in power and able to pay them what he owed them.
Germany couldn't afford to enter into the war, for financial and political reasons, and if they had, the costs to the German goverment would have outweighed the income in tax from german contractors, leaving a net loss, such as what america is experiencing.
So thanks for backing up what I've said. :tu:

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it sure is a beautiful thing :-)