Re: Coronavirus
 

Still on that other planet I see. I never said any such thing.

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Whatever happened to the 17.5 million antibody tests?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52140376

Or the 20 minute tests from May?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...ed-nationwide/

I’m being serious before anyone says I’m not. Was the tech flawed? Did contractors not deliver?

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Yes, but he wants that to coincide with half term so as not to disrupt the education of our children.

Someone needs to tell Sir Kier that half term only lasts one week.

It’s not easy for boring man to come up with a policy proposal that works. Next he’ll be suggesting we all do what jfman does and hide away in that cupboard under the stairs for two years. That’ll show that pesky virus who’s in charge. Until it comes back and bites him in the bum when he declares lockdown is over and the virus is defeated. Because it won’t be.

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Another day, another attempt by Old Boy to insult people with genuine concerns over the virus.

Not a single country in the world - or even an opportunistic leader of the opposition - considers your proposals to have any credibility at all. On any other topic posting your persistently inaccurate predictions, wishful thinking and now verging on insults would be considered petty trolling.

Other countries have made varying degrees success with their response to the virus, treatments are improving and many vaccine candidates are entering the final phases of development.

Old Boy wants to send thousands to their deaths and crush the NHS, ending routine treatments for months to come, to “save the economy”. How’s the Swedish economy coming along?

Fifth richest economy in the world - can’t afford a solution for our citizens. Such a notion is laughable when you see success stories in much poorer countries.

Maybe next summer the virus will not like the heat and I’ll come out from under the stairs then. :D

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So do you now acknowledge it's not actually world-class and has therefore impacted the country adversely - economically and health-wise?

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Sadly, there's no other solution than lock-downs whilst we get closer to a vaccine.

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Well there is varying restrictions and an effective test, trace, isolate system. There’s no solution with private sector charlatans at the helm channeling billions out of the public purse without delivering solutions.

The solutions to this virus are, unfortunately, grounded in the ideological polar opposite of some on the forum. They cost money. The state needs to serve it’s primary function - to protect it’s people. It cannot do that as a hollowed out shell.

If the IRA were gunning down 150 people a day you’d can bet that’d get a stronger reaction.

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Country supports following SAGE's advice - YouGov.

https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/13...520256/photo/1

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Perhaps they were not proven to work?

Er.....no ....they didn’t

https://www.ft.com/content/f28e26a0-...b-b3a618ca659d

Concerns about the 20min test and the issue of false positives raised last month in the BMJ

https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3482

The false positives issue has never been addressed. The amount of people testing positive with out symptoms, especially ( because i happen to follow it) footballers and football managers. People in bio- bubbles tested every day, lots of protocols etc. But still testing positive. However, every news item I listen to they test positive without symptoms. I wonder are they tested again a few times to confirm the result?

I don’t know. They should be!

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*Sigh*
What do you mean by "now".
Ive never said anything about how good, or bad, it is.
In fact, Im pretty sure the only comments I have ever made are that I dont have a smart phone to run any app on.
Stop trying to put words into my mouth Andrew, it wont work out well.

Re: Coronavirus
 

Biggest Tory revolt since Boris Johnson won the election in 2019, had Labour full on voted against the 10pm curfew measures, Boris would have lost despite his huge majority.

The full list of 42 Conservative MPs who rebelled to oppose the curfew regulations were: Imran Ahmad Khan (Wakefield)
Sir David Amess (Southend West)
Steve Baker (Wycombe)
Harriett Baldwin (West Worcestershire)
Bob Blackman (Harrow East)
Crispin Blunt (Reigate)
Peter Bone (Wellingborough)
Sir Graham Brady (Altrincham and Sale West)
Sir Christopher Chope (Christchurch)
Geoffrey Clifton-Brown (The Cotswolds)
James Daly (Bury North)
Philip Davies (Shipley)
David Davis (Haltemprice and Howden)
Dehenna Davison (Bishop Auckland)
Jackie Doyle-Price (Thurrock)
Richard Drax (South Dorset)
Marcus Fysh (Yeovil)
Nusrat Ghani (Wealden)
Chris Green (Bolton West)
Tom Hunt (Ipswich)
Pauline Latham (Mid Derbyshire)
Chris Loder (West Dorset)
Tim Loughton (East Worthing and Shoreham)
Anthony Mangnall (Totnes)
Karl McCartney (Lincoln)
Esther McVey (Tatton)
Huw Merriman (Bexhill and Battle)
Anne Marie Morris (Newton Abbot)
Sir John Redwood (Wokingham)
Andrew Rosindell (Romford)
Gary Sambrook (Birmingham Northfield)
Bob Seely (Isle of Wight)
Henry Smith (Crawley)
Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West)
Sir Robert Syms (Poole)
Derek Thomas (St Ives)
Craig Tracey (North Warwickshire)
Matt Vickers (Stockton South)
Christian Wakeford (Bury South)
Sir Charles Walker (Broxbourne)
Giles Watling (Clacton)
William Wragg (Hazel Grove)

The 23 Labour MPs who voted against the regulations, which included the 10pm curfew and other restrictions, were:
Diane Abbott (Hackney North and Stoke Newington)
Apsana Begum (Poplar and Limehouse)
Ben Bradshaw (Exeter)
Chris Bryant (Rhondda)
Dawn Butler (Brent Central)
Jeremy Corbyn (Islington North)
Geraint Davies (Swansea West)
Andrew Gwynne (Denton and Reddish)
Mike Hill (Hartlepool)
Rupa Huq (Ealing Central and Acton)
Kevan Jones (North Durham)
Ian Lavery (Wansbeck)
Emma Lewell-Buck (South Shields)
Rebecca Long-Bailey (Salford and Eccles)
Ian Mearns (Gateshead)
Grahame Morris (Easington)
Kate Osborne (Jarrow)
Bell Ribeiro-Addy (Streatham)
Lloyd Russell-Moyle (Brighton Kempton)
John Spellar (Warley)
Graham Stringer (Blackley and Broughton)
Jon Trickett (Hemsworth)
Derek Twigg (Halton)

Ten Liberal Democrats, six DUP MPs and Green Party MP Caroline Lucas also opposed the regulations.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...-vote-12103423

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500 MPs in favour then?

Re: Coronavirus
 

Some will have voted against thinking its too little too late, and others as they think we should just keep calm and carry on regardless. None of them know, they're just politicians. The scientists have more of a clue and they say we should have locked down weeks ago. Boris has stopped "following the science', bad move.

Re: Coronavirus
 

Maybe its bad science.

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Or maybe its a PM who doesn't know wtf he is doing.

Re: Coronavirus
 

Much like Old Boy, the country doesn't want personally infected by Coronavirus.