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RichardCoulter 25-06-2016 17:37

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35845597)
What settlement ? and roll over ? if you think the EU will all of a sudden capitulate and give UK special status in the community then you are sadly very mistaken .

I think that it's a real possibility.

Boris will win the Tory leadership and the Labour Party will have a leadership contest too, with both new leaders going head to head. Tory- out, Labour- in (after getting more concessions in the problematic areas to appease enough out voters to tip the balance in remains favour).

After this result, Labour are in an excellent bargaining position to get what's best for the UK and remain in the EU. If the EU don't play ball, they will lose the UK, which could start the collapse of the whole EU and they don't want that to happen.

The next GE will essentially be another EU referendum.

Ignitionnet 25-06-2016 17:38

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35845601)
I would expect that until we cease to be member we pay in and also receive the benefits of membership.

Yes. Until we leave nothing changes. The vote set a course, we haven't taken it yet.

martyh 25-06-2016 17:40

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35845601)
I would expect that until we cease to be member we pay in and also receive the benefits of membership.

That's what i thought ,after all we are still liable to the rules and regs untill we leave

RBMark 25-06-2016 17:40

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I've just reading across various social media sites and forums, Remainers are branding Leavers as racist LOLOLOL.

I think if Britian had 17 million racists it would not be the amazing country it is, also Welsh Remainers declaring they are now supporting Northern Ireland in the Euros, how closed minded can people be?

Ignitionnet 25-06-2016 17:42

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Regarding the Labour leadership: Corbyn is going nowhere. Even if he is ousted by the PLP he has said he would stand again. And he would win, no question.

heero_yuy 25-06-2016 17:44

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35845609)
Regarding the Labour leadership: Corbyn is going nowhere. Even if he is ousted by the PLP he has said he would stand again. And he would win, no question.

Where does the working class look for their representatives?

martyh 25-06-2016 17:45

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35845604)
I think that it's a real possibility.

Boris will win the Tory leadership and the Labour Party will have a leadership contest too, with both new leaders going head to head. Tory- out, Labour- in (after getting more concessions in the problematic areas to appease enough out voters to tip the balance in remains favour).

After this result, Labour are in an excellent bargaining position to get what's best for the UK and remain in the EU. If the EU don't play ball, they will lose the UK, which could start the collapse of the whole EU and they don't want that to happen.

The next GE will essentially be another EU referendum.

We are not due a GE until 2020 and we cannot put of starting the leave process until then .The voters have made the decision ,the next decision is for the Tories to choose a leader to best remove us from the EU

TheDaddy 25-06-2016 17:49

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35845600)
In the short term maybe but Wales voted by a large majority to leave knowing full well that it would be an end to EU subsidies .

Any idea how long we will continue paying into the EU or receiving money.Does that stop immediately or in 2 yrs ?

It carries on till the day we leave. As does the free movement, be funny if Farages predictions of three million Romanians packing their bags and coming here came true on the strength of leaving :D

Ignitionnet 25-06-2016 17:51

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35845610)
Where does the working class look for their representatives?

From their own, not the epitome of the left-wing metropolitan elite that so spectacular failed to connect with them and caused them to lash out.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35845612)
It carries on till the day we leave. As does the free movement, be funny if Farages predictions of three million Romanians packing their bags and coming here came true on the strength of leaving :D

Heh. We Nat well be teasing then for a couple of million of our more educated and skilled.

martyh 25-06-2016 17:53

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35845612)
It carries on till the day we leave. As does the free movement, be funny if Farages predictions of three million Romanians packing their bags and coming here came true on the strength of leaving :D

Yeah....funny as hell

Gary L 25-06-2016 18:06

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35845615)
Yeah....funny as hell

I think we're allowed to shoot them now.

martyh 25-06-2016 18:11

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35845616)
I think we're allowed to shoot them now.

don't say that, some nutter will believe you

Pierre 25-06-2016 18:13

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35845609)
Regarding the Labour leadership: Corbyn is going nowhere. Even if he is ousted by the PLP he has said he would stand again. And he would win, no question.

That would be fun to watch though, hope that happens.

Gary L 25-06-2016 18:14

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35845617)
don't say that, some nutter will believe you

It's ok. he doesn't have a gun.

Taf 25-06-2016 20:30

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Were you a Remain campaigner? Are you sore about the referendum result?

Check out these 10 top self-comforting strategies.

1.) Call every white person who voted Leave a "racist", ignoring the fact that Europeans are also white. Make sure you ignore and marginalise ethnic minority leave voters.

2.) Claim that the (huge) turnout wasn't high enough. 72%? It should have been at least 75%! 80%? It should have been 85%! Make sure to keep moving the goalposts.

3.) Make a stupid e-petition demanding another referendum, just like the socialists did when Labour lost last year. We need to keep having referendums until we get the "right" result.

4.) Get over-excited about the economy, even if the impact has been pretty boring and mundane. Pretend that your 2:2 in English Literature makes you an expert on currency markets.

5.) Attack the very idea of Democracy, because it's only a good thing when it goes the way you want it to. Working class voters don't know what's good for them, but middle class liberals definitely do.

6.) Share memes bashing Brexit, ignoring the unwelcome and uncomfortable realisation that you are in the minority of public opinion.

7.) Boldly claim that Scotland will leave the UK, forgetting that A) they can't afford to B) the EU can't afford to take them C) 1.6m remain votes don't cancel out 2m NO votes.

8.) Make fun of Boris Johnson while sweating slightly and really hoping he doesn't become Prime Minister.

9.) Learn absolutely nothing from the campaign, blaming the result on everyone but yourself. Scaremongering and bullying are clearly the best tactics to use, there's no way they could possibly backfire.

10.) Curl up in a ball and cry yourself to sleep while listening to "Ode to Joy".


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