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Bitter about what, you haven't won anything for years and are hundreds of million in debt, lot to envy there

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Was it really years ago since we won the Mickey Mouse cup? ;)

Anyway, good defensive performance on Sunday from West Ham. ;)

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I was talking in general, but being top of the league above the team who has won it the past two seasons and being in the last 16 of the European cup is something i would have thought to be envious of :shrug:

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Because it is part and parcel of football, but it shouldn't be taken so far, that it spoils your enjoyment of your team ;)

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Thats what i mean, some people let it take over supporting thier own team. They prefer to see others loose then see thier own team win.

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:banghead: You're not doing me any favours here are you? ;)

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Yes I was envious of Portsmouth earlier in the season when they topped the league :rolleyes:, the fact is despite the entire country being behind your team, chances are you'll still finish the season empty handed

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Sorry :dunce:

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Couldnt be more wrong, i first goto and watch my team play, then after the game i listen to the radio listening to all the other scores coming in around the country.

I do love a good chuckle if Man U get beat.

I don't like Glory Hunters, and Man U has them in bucket loads.

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Awww, you just want some glory hunters of your own, that's the problem. ;)

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The same as me then, when i can get the tickets i apply for as i don't have the money for a season ticket.

I actually agree with you Man United do tend to have alot probably because of the history of the club but i don't dislike them as such, they do sometimes irritate me though.

This is what i don't understand, most of the posts i have read in this thread by you seem to be mocking teams that loose rather than enjoying your own victories.

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Just Man U (and the OF understandably), I visit our own forums for my own team...

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So you just post in this thread to annoy people :rolleyes:

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Hmm I wonder if you are mistaking banter for bitterness by any chance?

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BR not bitter??? ;)

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I think you may be onto something... ;)

I don't have anything to be "bitter" about when it comes to Man U...

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Well, you do appear to have a problem... ;)

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Are we not talking about the guy who started the 'Anyone but England' thread?

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MMMmmm

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...mattesons?

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Point taken ;)

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I see my reputation precedes me :D lol

You are correct - i was the one that predicted exactly when England would go out and to whom.

Now that's banter of the highest order... :cool:

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It just proves our point ;)

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Everyone knows the real football fans in Falkirk are on the terraces at East Stirlingshire. ;)

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It proves nothing other than England are a 3rd rate football team.

Thats not bitterness, that was just calling it as it is - the truth, you could say.

Nothing to do with me disliking Man U, i happen to like numerous English teams, like West Ham, Chelsea and Liverpool for example.

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LOL :D Now that deserves a rep...

Although the mighty Stenhousemuir are the favoured alternative round these here parts (well if you exclude the Rangers and Celtic "fans".)

Although i do feel sorry for those East Stirling fans... Nobody should have to endure that every week.

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Hmmm, 3rd rate ranked 5th in the world rankings. ;)

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I thought that you were getting passed your problem, but here is a relapse ;)

I will be forever happy in the knowledge that for how far England can fall, it won't be as far as Scotland ;)

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Alright then, 5th rate if you insist.

Still at least your better than France - oh - wait...

Scotland in 25th did at least manage to beat them recently, and draw with Italy too, so it just goes to show what a farce the World Rankings are.

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So you think Scotland should be ranked above France :rofl:

I'm sure it wasn't that long ago Scotland lost to Belarus at home. :)

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I'm sure it wasn't long ago either that you drew with Macedonia and lost to Croatia.

My point was not that Scotland should be ranked higher than France but that the World Rankings are a farce.

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For once you are correct, Scotland are punching above their weight and should be behind Belarus who are ranked No.70 and who also put pay to your world cup qualifications :p:

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Yes but we have also beaten those teams recently aswell and also recorded victories against the likes of Argentina (ranked above France). Also unlike Scotland we actually qualified for the World Cup ;)

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Yes, but do we know whether AC is astute enough to adapt, or not, when his only past managerial job is playing hoofit and run at the valley?

At least with someone like Gary Megson (clive hunt) we know he's managed six clubs and played hoof at all of them.

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i'm getting worried about this thread it's going away from actually football talking onto trolling and bitter rants.. can we have less personal attacks just because of a football team and more actual talk about the game as none of the other stuff actually gets us anywhere

he's something i've been thinking about.. in the good old days the ball was pretty hard and basically just went in a straight line unless you were a true great like Pele and could put some bend on the ball.. as such it was easier to score through normal play and a free kick wouldn't help you very much

Today that isn't the case and with the movement of the ball now players like Ronaldo can make the ball move in two directions on a free kick... as such a free kick can be easier to score than during normal play.. i'm sure this is why there is so much diving and cheating going on as a free kick is more of a guarentee of a goal

would Drogba have scored at the weekend with a ball from the 60s.. would Ronaldos free kicks go in with a ball from the 60s ?

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I don't think he'll have any problems, he has a good record of helping young players develop as well

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Probably not but surely thats a good thing. This season we are seeing some of the best goals ever in my opinion and it is probably because of the ball, but i wouldnt take anything away from the players, it still takes alot of skill to score the goals that Drogba and Ronaldo score. I'd rather see a match with lots of goals because of the type of ball rather than very few because of the type of ball.

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Can it get any worse at Charlton ?

Les Reed has to be worried about his position surely, even though he hasn't been there that long.

Great result for Wycombe though :tu:

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Childish giggle of the day....

http://www.teamtalk.com//Images/91389.jpg

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Glazers' green light for transfers.......

Hargreaves anyone ?

Link

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Definately Hargreaves, seeing as Bayern seem to have softened their stance and I still say Torres should be a target. Henrik Larsson is only a short-term measure - what happens when he returns?

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I agree about getting a new forward, Saha needs some competition, and a replacement if he gets injured, having said that, Smith is due to return soon :)

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Didn't I read yesterday that Glazer was limiting Fergie to £25 mill per season, that rules Torres out then

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Conflicting reports - Glazier plc have said they'll make the funds available if SAF wants a player which to me sounds like there won't be any restrictions (within reason).

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An interesting fact if United win today...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/6185625.stm

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Superb goal from Scholes this afternoon. Link

Goal of the season so far in my opinion.

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As much as it pains me to say this as a Red, ( and a Latics & Dale ) supporter, I still think think the Essien strike against Arsenal was better.

Jim.

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To little, to late perhaps?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ic/6208387.stm

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It's just like Swap Shop ;)

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With Dowie as the spare part, should please Palace fans ;)

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It would appear that Hargreaves is the target according to this

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Well, Chelski's luck finally ran out today, possibly the better side against Arsenal but definitely second best over the full 90 minutes against, Everton, Wigan & Reading they failed to scrape a last ditch winner. Man United with five second team players in the side move 4 points clear. :cool:

John Terry may need an op on his back.

Jim.

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What an arrogant prat you are :td:
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/stor...t/sport1.shtml

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You talking to me? :erm: ;)

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Certainly am Didier :D

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Poor Didier ! Lost in translation.............again. ;)

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Sports stars given New Year gongs in the New Years Honours List........

Steven Gerrard becomes an MBE for (not nicking anyones hubcaps :jk:)
his services to sport :confused:, football!!!!!!!!!!, yeah, and..........:rant:

No Becks ?

If Gerrard has a worthy cause other than his efforts on the pitch, then I will retract my critcism, failing that, all I can say is why ?

Zara Phillips award goes without saying, that if I had blue blood........
make your own mind up.

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Good to see Gareth Edwards getting recognition (only about 25 years late) but what has Gerrard done to warrant a mention?

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I was going to post exactly the same question.... Lamps has done more, Scholes? Boring Neville?

and of course Becks and Posh are best suited for a "K" ...

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I am sure any World Champion we produce would get an honour royal or not, although it must surely be a clerical error that Bob Cooper has been omitted
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...php?t=33604768

As for Gerrard, surely those that are the best deserve recognition, there is no way Beckham could of emulated his efforts in both the European Cup final or the FA cup final

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yes but a few years ago Beckham got us to the World Cup finals with that goal against Greece from a free kick.. plus he won the European Cup, FA Cup and Prem all in one year

the Man U captain from that year, Roy Keane was ignorred, yes he is Irish but they can still give honours to foreign citizens

Gerrard won the European Cup in 05 and missed out on the honours then

surely John Terry who won the Prem for the second time over 38 games deserves an MBE too

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I have never seen Beckham win a match through determination and strength of personality and as for Terry by his manager's own admission, wasn't the best defender at Chelsea when they won the titles so how can he be more deserving?

Also do you get honoured for achievements in just one year now because I always thought it rolled over and if you weren't quite deserving one year you might be in another or over the course of a lifetime you might earn one if for no specific achievement

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No, Terry hasn't done anywhere near enough to deserve a mention in the honours IMO. Wait til he's in his 30s and see what he's acheived by then.

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w00t! :D

6 points clear of Chelski :D

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What a good weekend for all my teams,:p: nffc.

United six points clear, Rochdale win 4-0 at home and Oldham Athletic win 3-0 away at Gillingham, Scunthorpe go above Forest, the Latics could be in second place, right behind them after New Years day ;) .

Jim.

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And it's always good to see Arsenal loose :)

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All we needed was for Liverpool to lose as well and it would have been the perfect end to 2006 :)

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A good weekend for united, but, there is a long way to go yet.
Plus, I think Mourinho is losing the plot (hopefully), although I am not sure why after all the millions he has spent on players.

I am sure this is just a blip though, all teams go through bad patches.

I just hope the gap is wide enough in the table for the result not to matter too much when United visit Stamford Bridge on the 17th April 2007.

BBC Sport

Oh and Happy Birthday SAF, 65 years old today

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I think you are forgetting Beckhams National achievments tbh, I seem to remember him running the show on quite a few occasions playing for England, (Greece the notable one), plus he was captain etc.

Anyway, I was only using Beckham as an example over or against Gerrard, who imo has achieved less.

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A lot less in my opinion, surely if Gerrard is getting an MBE all of the players who won the treble for United should have got one. He hasn't won or done anything close to what Beckham or even Gary Neville, for example, have. I think he is just getting it for scoring a good goal in the FA cup final last season which imo doesn't deserve an MBE.

Playing well in two games shouldn't be what gets you an MBE in my opinion.

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And West Ham lost again.....................:(
They'll be going down at the end of this season, I'm sure. :mis:

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Was it really only the other day you said this :rolleyes:

I never understand why some people get enjoyment out of making fun of other people because of the team they support :confused:



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Yep he got it for his performances in two games :rolleyes:

Gerrard got it because he is the best English footballer of his generation, Gerrard wins the Euro Cup by himself and you guy's come back with Beckham did well against Greece

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We out played them again just like Fulham the other night, we'll be alright, have no doubt about it ;)

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Yes but it's Arsenal :D

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Yes all Beckham has done in his career is play well against Greece :rolleyes: Winning the Champions league, FA cup and Premiership on numerous occasions are easily forgotten aren't they.

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as i said Roy Keane was captain and got nothing.. ok he isn't British but they can give things out to other nationalities

Ryan Giggs scored that goal against Arsenal in the semi final a match Beckham was also all over and they got nothing either

Giggs is one of the most decorated players ever in football

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That's debatable....

Personally, I think he is overrated, and not just because he plays for Liverpool.
Just to remind you, I was only using Beckham as an example, maybe I should have used another worthy player as an example who does not play for Man Utd, unfortunately, I can't think of one :D

That's silly :rolleyes: but I suppose you had a little chuckle to yourself when you wrote it.

Have a look at this

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Blimey! and lets not forget his performance with Rebbeca Loos.

Here is his K.

http://www.khaleejtimes.ae/images/beck1.jpg

taken from Sir Becks

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Yet you see fit to say Gerrards award is based on performances in two games?

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Perth Glory: Bowyer-Dyer boxing match revisited

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Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho is under scrutiny from owner Roman Abramovich and the club's board of directors following the team's recent struggles. (Various)

How can the club maintain any credibility (not that it had much left tbh) if these newspaper reports are true?

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We might as well walk off now. F***ing ref making his own rules up.

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Could be worse you could be losing 6-0 :mad:

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Well it's 5.

Referee just tackled one of our players (Lester) and gave it to oldham.

12 against 9 just isn't fair.

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:D :D :D :D :D - NIL. To make the day even better, Rochdale also won 4-0 at Grimsby.
A pity Port Vale couldn't sneak a goal against Scunthorpe, the Latics would have gone top, still 2-0 away & 5-0 at home against Forest will do for me.:cool:

Jim.

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West Ham - what's going on? Lost 6-0 to Reading? :mis:
They're doomed, I tell you! :(

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Not sure what's going on at Upton Park, but I am sure Curbs will sort it out eventually, maybe it was just a freak result?


Good Luck, and I hope The Hammers are not relegated.

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Is this the point where we are all supposed to feel sorry for him in case things take a turn for the worse?

I would be surprised if it is true tbh, did that come from the News of The World ?

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You do support the whole football league though. :rolleyes:

We always lose to Oldham anyway. 2 and 5 this season, 3 last, last won at Boundary Park in 1953 I think they said on the radio.

How much did Sheridan pay our Friend then? Have to say, great tackle by Friend on Lester in stoppage time.

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Its rather sad when being 2nd in the premiership, with 47 in 21 games is considered struggling.

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As much of it is ManUre flying high (for once) with 54 from 22, though. (2.54 per game = 93 points for a season)

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Why couldn't Newcastle just go along with 'the plan'? :confused:

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United were below par today, draw was a fair result, to be honest I wouldn't want Park in Rochdale's first team.:(

jim.

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I thought you reversed the 3-0 defeat at the City ground at Boundary Park last season.:confused:

Jim.

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Yep, he was poor today, and I was surprised when Fergie took Fletcher off and not Park :confused:

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3-0 at ours wasn't it? Only going by what Colin Fray said on Radio Nottm.

I should have known that without looking it up... I was there.

http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=475529
http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=478029

And the nob end of the day award goes to... http://www.soccerbase.com/refs2.sd?refid=865

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you can go off people, you know ;)

- I look forward to the match report in the Grimsby Telegraph ... not ;)

http://www.thisisgrimsby.co.uk/displ...entPK=16270986

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i have no idea what on earth Park brings to the team.. he doesn't even put in any effort.. at least Fletcher and O-Shea try and do something even though they aren't good enough.. Park just runs about looking lost and isn't good enough at this level.. we have very little depth in the squad and need a new striker in Jan, although we have Rossi back.. with Saha out we only have Rooney and Larsson so if one of them gets injured we are in the same boat again

VDS isn't good enough in goal either.. he should have tipped round at least one of them goals yesterday and cost us a goal with Reading too

so far the only thing West Ham have done is beat us then been poor the rest of their games

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It's a confidence thing at the back, add to that we haven't had a right back since Repka left, Spector, Paintsal, Meers and Daily might as well spend Saturday's at home for the good that they do us on the pitch. Interestingly enough I see we are in for Upson again, the last time we were in for him we signed Bowyer instead, let him go to one of our rivals and got relegated!

The bit about Mourinho came from the BBC, it says the story was reported in various newspapers and I agree totally that it would be farcical to sack him because they were struggling (although didn't that happen to Ranieri, finishing second and reaching the Champions league final wasn't good enough then) however now is the time to scrutinise his performance, he probably made it look easy when they were winning every week, the measure of greatness is how you behave when things are going against you

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If the current trend continues, it looks as if Leeds will go down to the Third Division (sorry, Coca Cola Football League One), and Scunthorpe will be promoted to the Second Division (sorry, Coca Cola Football League Championship).

I blame Global Warming/Climate Change/whatever it's called this year.

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Good news this evening.......for united fans anyway

Aston Villa 0-0 Chelsea

BBC Sport

Still some way to go yet though.

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Villa holding Chelski? Who'd have thunk it?

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Villa were crap but Chelski were as bad. How much they need a goalscorer.

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Would they want your Chris or ours,:)

Jim.

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Lost me there.

They can have Neil Harris though. Maybe Gary Holt to replace Makelele.

(and when you say "ours", precisely which team are you referring to? ;))

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good news for nugget :tu: