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papa smurf 07-12-2025 13:30
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36207508)
It shows real stupidity when calling a person born to a Pakistani family a “narcissistic Pakistani” is deemed to be racist.

He's a British Pakistani, and to some people he's also narcissistic . . so where's the problem?


oh yeah, the problem is (as mentioned before) the Institutions are shit scared of being toppled, and Reform are now doing silly things to their own membership before the media 'finger pointing' takes hold
be careful you'll trigger the wokie, and he'll be climbing up onto his high horse ...

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36207488)
Tbh even if he did say those things its likely to attract the sort of people drawn to Reform.
like voters

1andrew1 07-12-2025 13:33
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36207508)
It shows real stupidity when calling a person born to a Pakistani family a “narcissistic Pakistani” is deemed to be racist.

He's a British Pakistani, and to some people he's also narcissistic . . so where's the problem?

oh yeah, the problem is (as mentioned before) the Institutions are shit scared of being toppled, and Reform are now doing silly things to their own membership before the media 'finger pointing' takes hold
A key reason for being expelled must be that him not declaring that the X account is his. That goes against what he's disclosed to Reform UK so he's breached his contract with the Party.
The account also posted that no foreign national or first-generation immigrant should be allowed to sit in parliament. That is not Reform UK policy.
Suggesting that some important coloured Labour politicians were not British puts you on rocky ground. On its own that may not have been sufficient for Reform UK to expel him but together there's a compelling case to do so.

Carth 07-12-2025 15:46
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Where did he say (suggest) that 'some important coloured Labour politicians were not British' . . l

Pierre 07-12-2025 20:23
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Desperate actions from whoever, laughable really.

OLD BOY 08-12-2025 19:37
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36207454)
There's multiple named accusers here. And Farage has quoted one unnamed person in his support but said he's received other letters too. Which evidence do you think is strongest?

https://news.sky.com/story/nigel-far...laims-13479621
That doesn't make him guilty. How do you prove a negative?

There may be more accusers than those defending him, but it proves nothing. Troublemakers can gang up on a person while others who know different keep their heads down.

1andrew1 08-12-2025 21:18
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36207535)
That doesn't make him guilty. How do you prove a negative?

There may be more accusers than those defending him, but it proves nothing. Troublemakers can gang up on a person while others who know different keep their heads down.
It's not a case of may it's 28 named accusers v 1 unnamed defender.

But never mind, let's not believe the victims.

Pierre 08-12-2025 21:42
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36207537)
It's not a case of may it's 28 named accusers v 1 unnamed defender.

But never mind, let's not believe the victims.
Bullshit detector has just hit 100.

50+ yr old claims, when Farage was a child, a teenager in school.

Whatever, Labour activist outfit are behind this, they’re wasting their time.

We’ve just had the Chancellor lie, and mislead the country, and this piffle is what knocks that off the news cycle……….

Carth 08-12-2025 22:02
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Running scared . . and people can see it, which doesn't bode well for those still trying to con the public through their media 'connections'

People throwing mud should have a think of where the mud came from ;)

Damien 08-12-2025 23:55
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
It's politics. Everything you've ever done is brought up pretty much. Tories and Labour leaders get it.

Cameron got the stuff about his days at university and the weird posh club he was at. Corbyn got articles about his relationship with Diane Abbott. Stamer had people looking into whether his dad owned a factory, and that Starmer got his mother a donkey farm for some reason.

Farage gets it too now.

1andrew1 09-12-2025 01:07
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36207544)
It's politics. Everything you've ever done is brought up pretty much. Tories and Labour leaders get it.

Cameron got the stuff about his days at university and the weird posh club he was at. Corbyn got articles about his relationship with Diane Abbott. Stamer had people looking into whether his dad owned a factory, and that Starmer got his mother a donkey farm for some reason.

Farage gets it too now.
One key difference between the allegations against Farage and the back history of Corbyn, Cameron etc which newspapers researched is that Farage's accusers proactively contacted the media due to their concerns about Farage.

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36207539)
Bullshit detector has just hit 100.

50+ yr old claims, when Farage was a child, a teenager in school.

Whatever, Labour activist outfit are behind this, they’re wasting their time.

We’ve just had the Chancellor lie, and mislead the country, and this piffle is what knocks that off the news cycle……….
50+ years ago? Farage was aged 17/18 when he was alleged to have said these things. That was 43/44 years ago. I think your calculator needs some new batteries as do your arguments.

The 28 public school pupils including many of Jewish origin are part of a Labour activist outfit? Yeah right? :D
GB News, Reform or the Telegraph would have found this out if there was such a plot. Haven't situations like Hillsborough and the grooming gangs indicated that victims might actually be telling the truth?

papa smurf 09-12-2025 10:09
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36207545)
One key difference between the allegations against Farage and the back history of Corbyn, Cameron etc which newspapers researched is that Farage's accusers proactively contacted the media due to their concerns about Farage.

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50+ years ago? Farage was aged 17/18 when he was alleged to have said these things. That was 43/44 years ago. I think your calculator needs some new batteries as do your arguments.

The 28 public school pupils including many of Jewish origin are part of a Labour activist outfit? Yeah right? :D
GB News, Reform or the Telegraph would have found this out if there was such a plot. Haven't situations like Hillsborough and the grooming gangs indicated that victims might actually be telling the truth?


I've heard that Nigel and pongo Evans snuck out and kissed some girls from the nearby girls school :shocked:

Carth 09-12-2025 10:45
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36207552)
I've heard that Nigel and pongo Evans snuck out and kissed some girls from the nearby girls school :shocked:
I haven't heard that one, although there was a rumour that 23 girls from a school many years ago were lining up to sell a story to the newspapers about how Farage kissed with one eye open and his fingers crossed behind his back.

Probably untrue, but hey, who doesn't want to get their name in the media nowadays, and the money is handy for Christmas too. :D

1andrew1 09-12-2025 21:37
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36207553)
I haven't heard that one, although there was a rumour that 23 girls from a school many years ago were lining up to sell a story to the newspapers about how Farage kissed with one eye open and his fingers crossed behind his back.

Probably untrue, but hey, who doesn't want to get their name in the media nowadays, and the money is handy for Christmas too. :D
Don't we all do that? :D

Carth 09-12-2025 23:19
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36207598)
Don't we all do that? :D
To be honest, I kept one eye open when kissing some of the girls in these parts . . you never knew if they'd change into a princess or a frog :D

Hugh 09-12-2025 23:27
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36207602)
To be honest, I kept one eye open when kissing some of the girls in these parts . . you never knew if they'd change into a princess or a frog :D
tbf, if it’s in Lincolnshire, with the webbing between the six fingers on each hand, it’s more likely they are anurans*…

*from Encyclopaedia Brittanica - (Anura) have protruding eyes, no tail, and strong, webbed hind feet that are adapted for leaping and swimming. They also possess smooth, moist skins.

;)

1andrew1 16-12-2025 21:18
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Good to see this happening but how effective it can be remains to be seen given the timescale and lack of statutory powers.
Quote:
'Urgent' review announced into foreign interference in British politics

The review comes in response to Nathan Gill, the former head of Reform UK in Wales, being jailed for accepting bribes to make pro-Russian statements.

Sir Keir Starmer has authorised an "urgent" review into the extent of foreign interference in British politics, as he prepares to change the law to tighten donation rules.

Ministers have initiated a rapid inquiry into current financial rules on donations and election safeguards, which will report at the end of March.

It will be led by Philip Rycroft, the former permanent secretary of the Brexit department.

The inquiry is a direct response to the jailing of Nathan Gill, the former leader of Reform UK in Wales, who admitted accepting tens of thousands of pounds in cash to make pro-Russian statements to the media and European Parliament.

In this case, officers said that they believed some individuals had a direct link to Vladimir Putin.
https://news.sky.com/story/urgent-re...itics-13484407

Sephiroth 16-12-2025 21:23
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
I hope that the review looks into the foreign interference into British politics that is orchestrated by the Hamas lovers - the fifth column.

Pierre 16-12-2025 23:04
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36207892)
Good to see this happening but how effective it can be remains to be seen given the timescale and lack of statutory powers.

https://news.sky.com/story/urgent-re...itics-13484407
Will they look into the WEF’s influence?

Carth 16-12-2025 23:18
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
I've no idea why foreign 'state actors' are trying to influence and/or undermine the UK when the present bunch of incumbents are doing such a grand job of it anyway . .

1andrew1 17-12-2025 00:09
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36207902)
Will they look into the WEF’s influence?
Good point. And the lizard people too!

Hugh 17-12-2025 00:55
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36207903)
I've no idea why foreign 'state actors' are trying to influence and/or undermine the UK when the present bunch of incumbents are doing such a grand job of it anyway . .
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36207907)
Good point. And the lizard people too!
And the Illuminati…

Sephiroth 17-12-2025 17:00
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
... and the Remoaners.

Carth 17-12-2025 18:42
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
. . and Quangos . . especially the ones containing 'experts' ;)

Pierre 17-12-2025 22:13
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36207907)
And the lizard people too!
Absolutely, and the Greys.

Chris 17-12-2025 23:43
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
And the Quagaars. Don’t forget them.

Hugh 07-01-2026 09:46
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/ne...orm-uk-5465169

Quote:
A group of Derbyshire councillors who quit Reform UK have announced they are now representing a new far-right splinter party, with the first test of their electoral prospects coming later this month.

The six members of Heanor & Loscoe Town Council, including Mayor Alan Abernethy, have joined Advance UK, a party launched in 2025 by Reform’s former national deputy leader Ben Habib amid disputes with leader Nigel Farage.

Councillors Abernethy, Alex Stevenson, Phillip Rose, Malc Hibbard, Laura Brunelleschi and Mark Burrell – four of whom also occupy parish council offices – say they represent an extensive local grassroots network in and around Amber Valley.

Cllr Stevenson, a former Conservative councillor who claimed second place in the constituency for Reform on 28.7 per cent of votes at the 2024 General Election, said: “We resigned from Reform UK because that party has lost touch with the grassroots values that first inspired it and us. Our loyalty has always been to our constituents, not to a party machine.
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Pierre 07-01-2026 14:44
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Quote:
Far Right
Yeah, yeah. We're all far right now.

thenry 12-01-2026 13:07
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Quote:
Nadhim Zahawi, former Conservative chancellor under Boris Johnson, has defected to Reform UK, the party has announced.

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...#liveblog-body
Quote:
But his ministerial career came to an end in January 2023 after an ethics investigation that found he had breached the ministerial code by failing to disclose that his tax affairs were being investigated by HM Revenue and Customs.
Is this effectively fraud?

papa smurf 12-01-2026 13:12
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36208845)
Is this effectively fraud?
i think he paid all taxes owed to HMRC

has Angela paid back what she owes

Hugh 12-01-2026 13:14
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Yes…

He wasn’t fired for owing tax, he was fired for lying about the HMRC investigating his taxes…

Hugh 12-01-2026 14:11
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There’s always a Tweet (or two…)

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Sephiroth 12-01-2026 14:32
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
I wish that ex-prominent Tories wouldn't defect to Reform UK. For what my opinion is worth, these prominent defectors are opportunists who want to find a route back to power for themselves. Farage would have done better by refusing Zahawi's membership because he doesn't come to the table with clean hands.

Although I have kept my Conservative Party membership, I would not be frightened to live in a country led by Farage.

Carth 12-01-2026 15:21
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Failed politicians, failed heads of industry, failed football managers . . rather surprisingly (or not) they all seem to fail upwards

thenry 12-01-2026 18:03
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
SkyNews, he defected because he didn't get a peerage from the conservatives :rofl:

1andrew1 13-01-2026 00:11
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36208849)

Although I have kept my Conservative Party membership, I would not be frightened to live in a country led by Farage.
Are you not concerned that with his Middle East-owned employers and his recent recruits from the Conservatives, Reform will get us all, in your words, "praying East"?

papa smurf 13-01-2026 08:53
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36208874)
Are you not concerned that with his Middle East-owned employers and his recent recruits from the Conservatives, Reform will get us all, in your words, "praying East"?
pray towards cleethorpes as much as you like

1andrew1 13-01-2026 10:25
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36208886)
pray towards cleethorpes as much as you like
Did you not mean 'for'? ;)

Sephiroth 13-01-2026 12:01
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36208874)
Are you not concerned that with his Middle East-owned employers and his recent recruits from the Conservatives, Reform will get us all, in your words, "praying East"?
At least quote me correctly. The expression I use "... facing East". Papa knows this!

1andrew1 13-01-2026 18:33
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36208849)
I wish that ex-prominent Tories wouldn't defect to Reform UK. For what my opinion is worth, these prominent defectors are opportunists who want to find a route back to power for themselves. Farage would have done better by refusing Zahawi's membership because he doesn't come to the table with clean hands.

Although I have kept my Conservative Party membership, I would not be frightened to live in a country led by Farage.
I think the Conservative Party is starting to shape up under Badenoch.

Getting rid of tarnished, potential infighters to Reform won't harm the Conservatives. It may even help them as the electorate is less likely to accept the pitch that that Reform are a challenger to the establishment when there are prominent former Conservatives in the Party.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36208889)
At least quote me correctly. The expression I use "... facing East". Papa knows this!
My bad! Sorry.

But getting back to the nub of the issue. Are you not concerned that with his Middle East-owned employers and his recent recruits from the Conservatives, Reform will get us all, in your words, "facing East"?

Sephiroth 13-01-2026 18:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36208904)
<SNIP>

My bad! Sorry.

But getting back to the nub of the issue. Are you not concerned that with his Middle East-owned employers and his recent recruits from the Conservatives, Reform will get us all, in your words, "facing East"?
Sorry, Andrew. But if you're suggesting that Farage in power will have us all the mercy of the Islamists (as in "facing East"), then you've had a weak moment.

The nub of the issue could be summed up in my lack of belief in a chunk of Reform UK's members of the BNP-ish tendency; hence I remain a Conservative Party member.

1andrew1 13-01-2026 22:58
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36208906)
Sorry, Andrew. But if you're suggesting that Farage in power will have us all the mercy of the Islamists (as in "facing East"), then you've had a weak moment.
I'm not suggesting it (I'll leave that to right-wing commentators like former GB News host Dan Wootton) but wondered how you stood on the issue. I don't think Reform will either.

Sephiroth 13-01-2026 23:02
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36208916)
I'm not suggesting it (I'll leave that to right-wing commentators like former GB News host Dan Wootton) but wondered how you stood on the issue. I don't think Reform will either.
Specifically, which issue, Andrew?

jem 13-01-2026 23:32
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Let’s go back to basics here, what is an ‘Islamist’? Is it about as useful as asking what is a ‘Christian’?

And before anyone answers, please do think about it first!

Sephiroth 14-01-2026 02:17
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jem (Post 36208919)
Let’s go back to basics here, what is an ‘Islamist’? Is it about as useful as asking what is a ‘Christian’?

And before anyone answers, please do think about it first!
An "Islamists" believes that Islam is the true religion and that non-believers are despised. Fitting into that category are the bombers, the terrorists, the Jew-hating Muslim preachers.

An Islamist in this country wants Sharia law to dominate and regard it as only a matter of time before their numbers will result in political control in the UK and elsewhere.

Btw, no sooner have they gained political power, the hard core will be handed their weapons from the basement of the Iranian embassy and the lkikes og Hamas will run the country.

Defining a Christian includes the opposite of an Islamist.

Sephiroth 14-01-2026 12:00
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
It’ll start getting tricky for Reform UK now. The 13th Labour U-turn is likely to do more good for the Tories than for Reform UK. Zahawi’s defection won’t impress the floating voters particularly due to the unsavoury headline of him not getting a peerage and thus chucking his toys out of the pram.

A shame, but I think peak Farage has happened - without prejudice to the possibility of further peaks!

TheDaddy 16-01-2026 01:27
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
See Nigel made a moving tribute to Lost Prophets singer Ian Watkins, thought it interesting he paid particular attention to Watkins love of children, there is nothing farage wont say for money, I'm thinking of getting him to do a cameo on Fred West and how he was an exceptional builder.

OLD BOY 17-01-2026 16:07
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36208936)
It’ll start getting tricky for Reform UK now. The 13th Labour U-turn is likely to do more good for the Tories than for Reform UK. Zahawi’s defection won’t impress the floating voters particularly due to the unsavoury headline of him not getting a peerage and thus chucking his toys out of the pram.

A shame, but I think peak Farage has happened - without prejudice to the possibility of further peaks!
I don’t see any danger for Reform just because polls go up,and down marginally from time to time.

Watch the press conference in which the latest defector, Robert Jenrick, laid out his stall. He made a very impressive speech - the next poll will be interesting.

Farage is going nowhere, he’s still way ahead in the polls, and the two main parties are no longer providing mass appeal.

Hugh 17-01-2026 17:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36209165)
I don’t see any danger for Reform just because polls go up,and down marginally from time to time.

Watch the press conference in which the latest defector, Robert Jenrick, laid out his stall. He made a very impressive speech - the next poll will be interesting.

Farage is going nowhere, he’s still way ahead in the polls, and the two main parties are no longer providing mass appeal.
Not true - he’s off to the WEF in Davos on Wednesday…

https://archive.ph/jz8CG

Dingbat 17-01-2026 21:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36209165)
Watch the press conference in which the latest defector, Robert Jenrick, laid out his stall. He made a very impressive speech - the next poll will be.
I wouldn’t trust Honest Bob, the MP for anagram, to put the bins out. He does have some principles, but if the price is right, he can have others.

How long will it be before he starts his first leadership challenge, I wonder.

1andrew1 18-01-2026 00:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36209194)
I wouldn’t trust Honest Bob, the MP for anagram, to put the bins out. He does have some principles, but if the price is right, he can have others.

How long will it be before he starts his first leadership challenge, I wonder.
Spot on. This former Remainer would have joined the Greens if they were ahead in the polls ;)

Sephiroth 18-01-2026 13:00
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36209204)
Spot on. This former Remainer would have joined the Greens if they were ahead in the polls ;)
Andrew - you can do better than that. Dingbat has made grsatuitous remarks just based on dislike.

You, on the othert hand, have a deeper appreciation of politics.

True, Jenrick is an ambitious politician. He has judged his chances of achieving an office of state to be near zero with the Tories (as in wipeout). So he has taken a chance with Reform (he might not get elected again). So, he has taken hios ambition across to Reform UK and we’ll see what happens.

Hugh 18-01-2026 13:31
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I wonder why Nigel Farage has pulled out of The Laura Kuenssberg TV programme this morning?

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...9&d=1768739397

Probably holding a Constituency Surgery…

denphone 18-01-2026 13:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36209228)
I wonder why Nigel Farage has pulled out of The Laura Kuenssberg TV programme this morning?

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...9&d=1768739397

Probably holding a Constituency Surgery…
What else can one expect from a cowardly shallow grifter who like Trump tries to avoid awkward questioning.

1andrew1 18-01-2026 21:29
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
More Spring cleaning: Romford MP Andrew Roisindell had moved into the Tory retirement village aka Reform UK. Strange time to announce it; maybe he feared being found out.

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...-nato-12593360

Hugh 18-01-2026 22:21
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First met Rosindell in the 80s, when he was in the FCS and I was in the YCs.

It’s fair to say he’s found his spiritual home…

TheDaddy 18-01-2026 22:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36209254)
First met Rosindell in the 80s, when he was in the FCS and I was in the YCs.

It’s fair to say he’s found his spiritual home…
I know him well, he helped me get a law changed, still got a letter from Pritti Patel telling me to get stuffed and then within six months it happened

Hugh 19-01-2026 00:18
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thenry 19-01-2026 00:32
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1andrew1 19-01-2026 01:17
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A good read. Jenrick criticises Truss's disastrous budget; the very same one that Farage praised. Could be interesting times ahead.

jem 19-01-2026 19:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36209262)
<snip> Jenrick criticises Truss's disastrous budget; the very same one that Farage praised.<snip>
Trouble brewing!

Sephiroth 19-01-2026 19:55
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Just shows what a crock politics is.

Carth 19-01-2026 19:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36209283)
Just shows what a crock politics is.
:Yes:

1andrew1 19-01-2026 22:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jem (Post 36209280)
Trouble brewing!
A popcorn year. ;)

1andrew1 21-01-2026 12:10
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Anyone remember what Farage said about Christian Wakeford defecting from the Conservative Party to Labour?

"If he calls a by-election then that's fine. If not, he is the Dishonourable Member for Bury South."

40 seconds in at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl5zbMP7gc0

Funny how he's changed his tune now that Conservatives are defecting to Reform! The challenger party is now just looking the same as the incumbent parties.

damien c 21-01-2026 14:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36209372)
Anyone remember what Farage said about Christian Wakeford defecting from the Conservative Party to Labour?

"If he calls a by-election then that's fine. If not, he is the Dishonourable Member for Bury South."

40 seconds in at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl5zbMP7gc0

Funny how he's changed his tune now that Conservatives are defecting to Reform! The challenger party is now just looking the same as the incumbent parties.
That's because all the parties are the same, none of them can be trusted, they are all liars and thieves.

Sephiroth 21-01-2026 16:05
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"Thieves" is not proven yet against Reform UK.

Hugh 21-01-2026 16:11
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
That’s a ringing endorsement- "not yet proved’…

Sephiroth 21-01-2026 16:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36209386)
That’s a ringing endorsement- "not yet proved’…
You said "yet".

Hugh 21-01-2026 16:30
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Actually, you said "not proven yet" - I quoted what you posted…

Sephiroth 21-01-2026 16:42
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Oops.

TheDaddy 21-01-2026 18:05
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36209394)
Actually, you said "not proven yet" - I quoted what you posted…
It's only a matter of time, remember when angela raynor was hounded out of office, guess who has broken the ministerial code 17 times and failed to declare 380k of outside earnings on time, yeah its the man of the people, good old nige, shame he'll now no doubt be made to resign under the guise of it only being right

Sephiroth 21-01-2026 18:21
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36209400)
It's only a matter of time, remember when angela raynor was hounded out of office, guess who has broken the ministerial code 17 times and failed to declare 380k of outside earnings on time, yeah its the man of the people, good old nige, shame he'll now no doubt be made to resign under the guise of it only being right
Raynor was found to have breached the ministerial code. So she resigned (wasn't "hounded" because Starmer instigated the investigation.

Farage gets as much attention as Raynor, but there's nothing to pin on him that would merit resignation. Maybe even "yet".

jem 21-01-2026 18:42
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36209372)
Anyone remember what Farage said about Christian Wakeford defecting from the Conservative Party to Labour?

"If he calls a by-election then that's fine. If not, he is the Dishonourable Member for Bury South."

40 seconds in at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl5zbMP7gc0

Funny how he's changed his tune now that Conservatives are defecting to Reform! The challenger party is now just looking the same as the incumbent parties.
This happens every single time that an MP jumps ship and joins another party. Everyone demands that he or she resigns their seat, well everyone except the party that they have joined. Highly hypocritical as they all do it, until it happens to suit them.

And in a way, that’s fine, remember we don’t (technically) vote for a party, we vote for an individual to represent us in Parliament. At most they would have five years to ‘come good’ or be kicked out.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36209400)
It's only a matter of time, remember when angela raynor was hounded out of office, guess who has broken the ministerial code 17 times and failed to declare 380k of outside earnings on time, yeah its the man of the people, good old nige, shame he'll now no doubt be made to resign under the guise of it only being right
Except ‘Man of the People’, our Nigel,* unlike Angela Reynor who was Deputy Prime Minister and Secretary of State for Housing; isn’t a minister, isn’t subject to the Ministerial Code, holds no office, so there really isn’t anything for him to resign from.

Of course he could resign his seat; but he was elected by the good people of Clacton to represent them. And I think it only fair that they see and hopefully take on board his behaviour, and decide at the next election if the really is the best person to have their interests at heart!

* I am being sarcastic. I do sometimes feel the need to mention this, just in case the nuance gets lost.

Sephiroth 21-01-2026 18:52
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Why should Farage resign his seat? What has he done so wrong?

Hugh 21-01-2026 19:51
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Farage fence-sitting, trying not to upset Trump….

https://www.independent.co.uk/bullet...-b2905022.html

Quote:
Nigel Farage stated the world would be a “better, more secure place” if America took over Greenland in a speech at World Economic Forum in Davos.

The Reform UK leader, however, disagreed with the idea based on his belief in national self-determination.
So, in summary, he thinks it’s a good idea, but doesn’t agree with it… :confused:

OLD BOY 21-01-2026 20:33
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36209372)
Anyone remember what Farage said about Christian Wakeford defecting from the Conservative Party to Labour?

"If he calls a by-election then that's fine. If not, he is the Dishonourable Member for Bury South."

40 seconds in at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl5zbMP7gc0

Funny how he's changed his tune now that Conservatives are defecting to Reform! The challenger party is now just looking the same as the incumbent parties.
Farage’s revenge for the cancelled council elections!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36209400)
It's only a matter of time, remember when angela raynor was hounded out of office, guess who has broken the ministerial code 17 times and failed to declare 380k of outside earnings on time, yeah its the man of the people, good old nige, shame he'll now no doubt be made to resign under the guise of it only being right
It has been accepted that this was just an administrative error by a staffer who didn’t put through in time. There was no intention to deceive. Farage’s party will not receive a penalty.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36209407)
Farage fence-sitting, trying not to upset Trump….

https://www.independent.co.uk/bullet...-b2905022.html



So, in summary, he thinks it’s a good idea, but doesn’t agree with it… :confused:
It’s a good idea, but Trump has gone about it the wrong way.

Hugh 25-01-2026 14:43
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1769347840

Not sure what the Reform Candidate for London Mayor’s message is here - is it

a) I’m following in Trump’s footsteps

b) A vote for me is a vote for Nuclear Winter

c) If you vote for me, I’ll give London mountains

d) When it snows, I'm going to kidnap a penguin from London Zoo

Carth 25-01-2026 16:32
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
To me, that shows an idiot who thinks making a silly image will appeal to the masses . . . and the message is "look at me, aren't I clever" :rolleyes:

thenry 25-01-2026 16:48
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Her names fitting, liar conningthem

1andrew1 25-01-2026 23:10
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36209627)
To me, that shows an idiot who thinks making a silly image will appeal to the masses . . . and the message is "look at me, aren't I clever" :rolleyes:
"Mummy, guess what I made at school today on Chat GPT?"
Laila Cunningham "Hold my tea!"
:D

Hugh 26-01-2026 13:21
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Braverman's defected now...

And from July last year...

https://archive.ph/RWTk8

Quote:
Reform warns it wouldn't take Liz Truss or Suella Braverman if they decided to leave the Tories amid concerns they would damage the party's image

After a string of recent defections, it turns out there are some Tories Reform still wouldn't take.

Nigel Farage is set to reject any bids to jump ship from Suella Braverman or Liz Truss amid concerns they would damage Reform's image, the Mail has learnt.

Speculation is rife that Mrs Braverman could switch allegiance while Ms Truss has been tipped as a potential defector.

Despite the huge publicity value of attracting a former home secretary or prime minister, Reform sources said neither would be welcome.

One well-placed insider claimed Mrs Braverman was 'not a team player', adding: 'Her record shows she is just too disruptive.'

And the source said Ms Truss joining would be a 'non-starter' as she has 'far too much baggage in the public's mind'.

1andrew1 26-01-2026 13:35
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36209676)
Braverman's defected now...
Tories Reloaded

I wonder when Truss crosses over?

Hugh 26-01-2026 15:24
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
The Conservative response to the defection is a bit nasty...

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...m-keir-starmer

Quote:
A Conservative Party spokesman said: “It was always a matter of when, not if, Suella would defect. The Conservatives did all we could to look after Suella’s mental health, but she was clearly very unhappy. She says she feels that she has ‘come home’, which will come as a surprise to the people who chose not to elect a Reform MP in her constituency in 2024.

“There are some people who are MPs because they care about their communities and want to deliver a better country. There are others who do it for their personal ambition.

Suella stood for leader of the Conservatives in 2022 and came sixth, behind Kemi and Tom Tugendhat. In 2024 she could not even muster enough supporters to get on the ballot. She has now decided to try her luck with Nigel Farage, who said last year he didn’t want her in Reform. They really are doing our ‘Spring cleaning'!

1andrew1 26-01-2026 15:32
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36209683)
The Conservative response to the defection is a bit nasty...

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...m-keir-starmer
Does come across as quite snarky, especially that bit about mental health. :shocked:

thenry 26-01-2026 15:33
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Nasty because they said mental health?

Her home is a prison cell the national treasure I mean security risk.

Sephiroth 26-01-2026 16:09
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Braverman to Reform UK potentially strengthens them

Truss to Reform Uk would seal it for me: Reform UK would then be bad news.

noel43 26-01-2026 18:04
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36209694)
Braverman to Reform UK potentially strengthens them

Truss to Reform Uk would seal it for me: Reform UK would then be bad news.
Reform party for rejects

1andrew1 26-01-2026 19:12
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36209686)
Nasty because they said mental health?
And they've now withdrawn the mental health reference.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36209694)
Yuss to Reform Uk would seal it for me: Reform UK would then be bad news.
Would they take her?

Loved the Liberal Democrats previous take on the defections
webuyanytory

1andrew1 30-01-2026 17:18
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
So, Truss isn't defecting to Reform any time soon! One thing in its favour, I concede.
Quote:
Liz Truss: 'The Blob' is trying to infiltrate Reform

Liz Truss has claimed that “the Blob” is trying to infiltrate Reform UK, alleging that Robert Jenrick had an “ulterior motive” for defecting to Nigel Farage’s party.

In an interview with the Daily T podcast, the former Tory prime minister claimed that, far from being a Right-wing insurgent, Mr Jenrick was “part of the British establishment”.

Ms Truss also insisted that her short-lived premiership had been the “last chance” to avoid the Conservative split with Reform.

Her comments came two weeks after Mr Jenrick, the former shadow justice secretary, said he would have “chucked her out” of the Conservatives over her disastrous mini-Budget.

Asked about Mr Jenrick’s defection, Ms Truss said: “I’m sure ‘the Blob’ is trying to infiltrate Reform. I’ve no doubt about that.”

Asked who was giving Mr Jenrick orders, she added: “What I’m suggesting is that Nigel Farage is now the bookies’ favourite to be next prime minister.

“If you are a member of the British establishment, if you are somebody who has connived to keep Britain on this managed decline trajectory, what are you going to try and do? You’re going to try and get into Reform. That seems the logical thing.

“So what I’m suggesting, given Robert is not stupid and is a perfectly intelligent person, he knows what happened in 2022. He knows that the Bank of England was responsible. I’m sure he’s read the report that they put out in 2024.

“So all I can assume is he must have an ulterior motive.”

There has been speculation over whether Ms Truss will join Reform, but after his defection earlier this month, Mr Jenrick poured cold water on the idea...

In an interview after his defection, Mr Jenrick had said: “If I’d been leader of the Conservative Party, and that’s obviously ancient history now, I would have chucked Liz Truss out of the party because the mini-Budget was careless and cackhanded.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...8a3853bb&ei=22

OLD BOY 31-01-2026 17:28
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by noel43 (Post 36209699)
Reform party for rejects
From a dying and out of touch political party. Reform is taking on people who were on the right of the Conservative Party and have been espousing popular policies that have been ignored, which let in a Labour government, which has only compounded the problem.

It seems that name calling is all the left inclined have to offer, because they know in their hearts that Reform UK is right.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36209830)
So, Truss isn't defecting to Reform any time soon! One thing in its favour, I concede.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...8a3853bb&ei=22
It was careless and cack-handed because the means of paying for the increased spending was not to be announced until the Autumn Statement a few weeks later. She did it to reassure those who were extremely concerned about how they were going to get through the winter with fuel prices spiralling.

Her show of compassion for their plight was her undoing.

Hugh 31-01-2026 18:11
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36209916)
From a dying and out of touch political party. Reform is taking on people who were on the right of the Conservative Party and have been espousing popular policies that have been ignored, which let in a Labour government, which has only compounded the problem.

It seems that name calling is all the left inclined have to offer, because they know in their hearts that Reform UK is right.

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It was careless and cack-handed because the means of paying for the increased spending was not to be announced until the Autumn Statement a few weeks later. She did it to reassure those who were extremely concerned about how they were going to get through the winter with fuel prices spiralling.

Her show of compassion for their plight was her undoing.
Your interpretation of Truss’s motivations is right up there with your forecast of her effect on U.K. Politics when she was standing in the Leadership contest, and after…

Quote:
Truss might just see Labour out of office for another 15 years minimum.
Quote:
The general public don’t see this yet, but in the end, she will carry the Conservatives through to the next election
Quote:
I think people will be pleasantly surprised with Liz Truss's performance.

OLD BOY 31-01-2026 21:21
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36209918)
Your interpretation of Truss’s motivations is right up there with your forecast of her effect on U.K. Politics when she was standing in the Leadership contest, and after…
Well, I didn’t anticipate the massive stitch-up that followed - that is certainly true.

I now realise the uphill battle Reform will have in breaking down these barriers, but with a united party, Farage stands a much better chance.

Hugh 31-01-2026 21:39
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
A massive stitch-up by those woke lefty tree-hugging financial markets…

Paul 31-01-2026 23:13
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36209932)
Well, I didn’t anticipate the massive stitch-up that followed
:rofl:

You truely live in a fantasy world. :spin:

Hugh 01-02-2026 09:57
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36209932)
Well, I didn’t anticipate the massive stitch-up that followed - that is certainly true.

I now realise the uphill battle Reform will have in breaking down these barriers, but with a united party, Farage stands a much better chance.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36209936)
:rofl:

You truely live in a fantasy world. :spin:
Mordor…

Sephiroth 01-02-2026 10:30
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36209932)
Well, I didn’t anticipate the massive stitch-up that followed - that is certainly true.

I now realise the uphill battle Reform will have in breaking down these barriers, but with a united party, Farage stands a much better chance.
If Truss's actions had been any good, there would have been no stitch-up. Simples.

1andrew1 01-02-2026 10:39
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36209940)
Mordor…
Lol.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36209941)
If Truss's actions had been any good, there would have been no stitch-up. Simples.
If you put a conspirator's hat on, you could dream up a far-fetched case for stitching her up if she was any good, though doing so would be hard. However, she was incompetent so the creator of her own demise.

Sephiroth 01-02-2026 10:42
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36209942)
Lol.

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If you put a conspirator's hat on, you could dream up a far-fetched case for stitching her up if she was any good, though doing so would be hard. However, she was incompetent so the creator of her own demise.
Long version of what I said!

Hugh 01-02-2026 14:34
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
https://archive.ph/DPzO1

Quote:
Churchwarden linked to foreign-born billionaire is behind £200k Reform gift

The man whose firm made the donations will not discuss where the money came from, nor his ties to wealthy Farage allies who may not hold citizenship.

John Richard Simpson is a 59-year-old conveyancer whose parish website describes him as an “experienced” and “dedicated” Anglican lay leader.

He is the owner of Interior Architecture Landscape Limited, which made seven payments to Nigel Farage’s party last summer. The firm, which was originally owned via a trust in the British Virgin Islands, is so small it does not have to file professionally audited accounts. It did not display any contact details until recently and was almost wound up by HMRC after a tax dispute last year.

Simpson, known locally as Bill, “does conveyancing, but is not a fully qualified solicitor”, according to a Facebook post by a neighbour in the Hertfordshire town. There is no evidence he has any background in interior design. He has no known political affiliation or background in activism.

He would not discuss the source of the funds donated to Reform last week.

Simpson has long worked for Sasan and Yasmin Ghandehari, a married couple who a spokesman for the interior design company acknowledged were “clients”.

Last month, the Ghandehari family office sponsored Farage’s pass to Davos and a hotel in the Swiss resort for the World Economic Forum’s annual gathering.

They claimed to have retained the Reform leader as “an honorary and unpaid adviser” in an arrangement first reported by the Financial Times.

… Although Bill has been sole shareholder and director of Interior Architecture Landscape Limited for two and a half years, it was originally incorporated in 2013 by a BVI trust of the same name. That entity shares the same address as the Ghandehari trust that owns the mansion.
One has to wonder where a person whose Company had Net Assets of under £100k in their last set of accounts, and had compulsory strike-off actions in 2024 and 2025, found £200k from…

OLD BOY 01-02-2026 21:05
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36209936)
:rofl:

You truely live in a fantasy world. :spin:
No. I see through the hype. Others seem to be suffering from a bad case of gullibility.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36209945)
https://archive.ph/DPzO1



One has to wonder where a person whose Company had Net Assets of under £100k in their last set of accounts, and had compulsory strike-off actions in 2024 and 2025, found £200k from…
I am so sorry to hear that this bothers you so much.


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