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1andrew1 16-10-2023 17:12
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36162109)

The woodworm crawls out 10 years later, but what's this got to do with Rishi?
Sunak's the PM and Conservative leader so another problem for him.

Mr K 16-10-2023 17:13
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36162109)

The woodworm crawls out 10 years later, but what's this got to do with Rishi?
It's his party and he'll cry if he wants to.....
Another embarrassing by election looms..

Sephiroth 16-10-2023 17:19
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36162110)
Sunak's the PM and Conservative leader so another problem for him.
Certainly not part of Rishi's chronicle.

Hugh 16-10-2023 20:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36162092)
Could result in another by-election. Let's see.

Quote:
Peter Bone: Tory MP facing suspension after bullying probe
Parliament's behaviour watchdog has recommended Conservative MP Peter Bone be suspended for six weeks for bullying and sexual misconduct.

It follows a complaint made to the body by a former member of staff, over alleged behaviour which took place over 10 years ago.

The suspension will have to be voted on by the House of Commons to be approved.

It would trigger a recall petition that could potentially lead to a by-election in Mr Bone's Wellingborough seat.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67122669

Since 2019, there have been more Tory MPs suspended for sexual misconduct than voters convicted of ID fraud...

Sephiroth 16-10-2023 22:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36162131)
Since 2019, there have been more Tory MPs suspended for sexual misconduct than voters convicted of ID fraud...
Also, the Goon, Vean and Rustorack Cornish Beam Engine, owned by the Steam Pump & Cornish Beam Engine Society was running on compressed air.

ianch99 17-10-2023 00:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36162138)
Also, the Goon, Vean and Rustorack Cornish Beam Engine, owned by the Steam Pump & Cornish Beam Engine Society was running on compressed air.
You ok?

Sephiroth 17-10-2023 08:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36162139)
You ok?
Yeah - I was just commenting on the relevance of Hugh's reply,

1andrew1 17-10-2023 17:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36162113)
Certainly not part of Rishi's chronicle.
I think Sunak might disagree.

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MP who ‘exposed himself to aide and locked him in bathroom’ loses Tory whip

Peter Bone has been stripped of the Conservative whip removed after he was found to have indecently exposed himself to a staff member and trapped him in the bathroom of a hotel room.

Parliament’s complaints watchdog upheld five claims of bullying and one of sexual misconduct against the leading Brexit backer..

A spokeswoman for the Tory chief whip Simon Hart said Mr Bone – who faces a possible by-election in his Wellingborough and Rushden seat – would no longer sit with the party in the Commons.

The recommended six-week suspension for Mr Bone Independent Expert Panel (IEP) would trigger a recall petition if approved by parliament, creating a fresh by-election headache for Rishi Sunak.

The MP was found by the parliamentary complaints watchdog to have “committed many varied acts of bullying and one act of sexual misconduct” against a member of his staff in 2012 and 2013.

Mr Bone, one of the most outspoken pro Brexit Conservative MPs, was found to have engaged in “violence, shouting and swearing, mocking, belittling and humiliating behaviour, and ostracism”.

The standards commissioner’s report also said he had indecently exposed himself to the complainant on an overseas trip, initially in the bathroom of the hotel room they were sharing and then in the bedroom.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...5f8041a6&ei=16

OLD BOY 17-10-2023 18:07
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36162113)
Certainly not part of Rishi's chronicle.
Frankly, it's the least of his problems.

denphone 20-10-2023 06:33
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Huge swings in the two by-elections last night from the Conservatives to Labour.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2432881.html

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Polling guru Professor John Curtice said the Conservatives have not faced a slew of such poor by-election results since the run up to the 1997 general election, in which Tony Blair’s Labour won a landslide.

And Sir John warned that without a “dramatic and radical” turnaround, the Conservatives are on course for defeat in the next election, expected in less than a year.

Damien 20-10-2023 09:12
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Actually better than Blair pre-1997 in one of them

jfman 20-10-2023 09:34
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I’m old enough to remember when 20mph speed limits was going to be a game-changer.

ianch99 20-10-2023 09:41
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The most entertaining part is listening how they are trying to spin it :)

denphone 20-10-2023 09:53
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36162317)
The most entertaining part is listening how they are trying to spin it :)
Indeed Greg Hands this morning was putting his spin on it, l think the only person that believed him was himself.

1andrew1 20-10-2023 10:04
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36162316)
I’m old enough to remember when 20mph speed limits was going to be a game-changer.
How it started
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36161162)
It’ll be interesting, but Rishi senses a winning formula…
How it ended
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Defeated Tory Mid Beds candidate flees count seconds after declaration
https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...-test-12593360

peanut 20-10-2023 10:28
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But it's only a by-election. People are just making a point but will change when it comes to the general election..... (yeah right). Roland sorry Rishi did pick a good time to be out of the country....

richard-john56 20-10-2023 10:39
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Hooray and the only dramatic turnaround I would like to see is for the Tories to shut the door on the way out.

Mr K 20-10-2023 12:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36162318)
Indeed Greg Hands this morning was putting his spin on it, l think the only person that believed him was himself.
He won't of believed it either Den. He'll have been given the short straw to parrott some poor excuse lines pre written for him days ago. If I was a Tory (shudders), I'd be changing course very quickly not trying to maintain the status quo.

The Tories (and Brexit) are on the way out. They've more than had their chance and failed making this country considerably worse off. Fortunately the more sensible next generation are coming through, as the Tory oap support inevitably declines. The longer they leave it till the next election the less MPs they'll have.

Hugh 20-10-2023 13:14
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Amusingly enough, the votes cast for the Reform UK candidates in Tamworth and Mid-Beds were more than the margin between the Conservative candidate winning or losing...

OLD BOY 20-10-2023 13:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36162321)
That means nothing. It’ll be in the manifesto.

This is a by election with a very poor turnout. The test, of course, will be a General Election, when people have to start think things through properly. Still over a year to go.

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36162324)
But it's only a by-election. People are just making a point but will change when it comes to the general election..... (yeah right). Roland sorry Rishi did pick a good time to be out of the country....
That is the question.

denphone 20-10-2023 16:45
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Some interesting thoughts and analysis from Rob Ford, a politics professor.

https://swingometer.substack.com/p/b...mmy-for-labour

Pierre 20-10-2023 17:54
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Labour are going to Win, that’s a given. The interesting part is by how much?

1andrew1 20-10-2023 18:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36162374)
Labour are going to Win, that’s a given. The interesting part is by how much?
💯 agree.

heero_yuy 20-10-2023 18:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36162374)
Labour are going to Win, that’s a given. The interesting part is by how much?
I hope you're ready for the rapid exodus of wealth and investment that will result.

1andrew1 20-10-2023 18:21
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36162376)
I hope you're ready for the rapid exodus of wealth and investment that will result.
The country will cope after Sunak's move to California. ;)

Ms NTL 20-10-2023 19:14
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36162376)
I hope you're ready for the rapid exodus of wealth and investment that will result.

Rapid exodus indeed... Labour does not have any new ideas how to keep people happy.


I am a labour supporter. The inequality in the UK is far too deep.

daveeb 20-10-2023 19:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36162381)
The country will cope after Sunak's move to California. ;)
:D:D

Hugh 20-10-2023 19:46
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36162376)
I hope you're ready for the rapid exodus of wealth and investment that will result.
Just like in 1997?

denphone 20-10-2023 19:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36162381)
The country will cope after Sunak's move to California. ;)
After a never ending all consuming narcissistic political soap drama many will be happy with just a boring soap drama..;)

Mr K 20-10-2023 20:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36162392)
Just like in 1997?
Be fair, Phil Collins retreated to Switzerland with his cash as promised.
It was the main reason for Labour's landslide :)

If only Gary Barlow would do the same, Starmer would be assured victory!

ianch99 20-10-2023 21:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36162376)
I hope you're ready for the rapid exodus of wealth and investment that will result.
That is what they want you to believe. It is how they are ultra wealthy and (I assume) you are not.

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Originally Posted by Ms NTL (Post 36162389)
Rapid exodus indeed... Labour does not have any new ideas how to keep people happy.


I am a labour supporter. The inequality in the UK is far too deep.
It is far too deep because so many people are to frightened to ask why so much wealth is in the hands of so few.

Mr K 21-10-2023 10:00
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Rishi has a cunning plan... He's really in touch with what the public wants.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...rs-uk/#comment
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Downing Street is considering a tax cut for five million high earners next year to galvanise Tory voters after suffering historic by-election defeats in two “safe” Conservative seats.

The threshold for paying the 40 per cent higher rate of income tax could be raised in an effort to plot a path to re-election despite polls predicting a Labour victory.

Surveys have been carried out by No 10 to see which tax cut would, in theory, give the party the biggest political pre-election boost, with the 2024 Spring Budget considered the earliest opportunity it could be announced.
Don't waste it on the NHS or public services, let's stuff our pockets even more before we're booted out... .

denphone 21-10-2023 10:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36162432)
Rishi has a cunning plan... He's really in touch with what the public wants.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...rs-uk/#comment


Don't waste it on the NHS or public services, let's stuff our pockets even more before we're booted out... .
They must think a large part of the electorate were born yesterday, nothing is working anymore and yet they think this is going to save them come the general election.

The electorate might be taken in once but not a second time.

Sephiroth 21-10-2023 10:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36162408)
That is what they want you to believe. It is how they are ultra wealthy and (I assume) you are not.

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It is far too deep because so many people are to frightened to ask why so much wealth is in the hands of so few.

I suspect that most people understand how the world works.

At one end, there are state managed economies (not many), like China where everything is supposed to be levelled down. Yet they spawn extremely wealthy people because that's how human nature works. Strive to better yourself if you can - or you can give a bung to a politician. The general population are in the 'just managing' category (except in N. Korea).

At the other end, there are capitalist states (most of Europe, USA, etc) which spawn the same wealthy elites for the same reason - human nature.

In the middle are countries where investors don't think there is going to be much financial return other than on an exploitation basis. Again, human nature.

So, turning to your statement, what should happen if the many openly ask 'why so much wealth is in the hands of so few'?

The answer is given in my first three paragraphs. Then, what will they want? They'll likely say a 'fairer distribution of wealth'. What the heck does that mean? Effectively rob the rich to pay the poor? Tax the rich so that they leave the UK, taking jobs with them and relegating the UK to the middle grouping? The people will become even more exploited; government will have to take even more tax to keep services going.

Your vision is deeply flawed.

ianch99 21-10-2023 11:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36162445)

I suspect that most people understand how the world works.

At one end, there are state managed economies (not many), like China where everything is supposed to be levelled down. Yet they spawn extremely wealthy people because that's how human nature works. Strive to better yourself if you can - or you can give a bung to a politician. The general population are in the 'just managing' category (except in N. Korea).

At the other end, there are capitalist states (most of Europe, USA, etc) which spawn the same wealthy elites for the same reason - human nature.

In the middle are countries where investors don't think there is going to be much financial return other than on an exploitation basis. Again, human nature.

So, turning to your statement, what should happen if the many openly ask 'why so much wealth is in the hands of so few'?

The answer is given in my first three paragraphs. Then, what will they want? They'll likely say a 'fairer distribution of wealth'. What the heck does that mean? Effectively rob the rich to pay the poor? Tax the rich so that they leave the UK, taking jobs with them and relegating the UK to the middle grouping? The people will become even more exploited; government will have to take even more tax to keep services going.

Your vision is deeply flawed.
You are wrong. Most people do not know how the global, pan-tax jurisdiction, corporate capitalist market works.

Your argument is basically this: the ultra-wealthy are going to roger us what ever we try and do so we may as well just bend over and suck it up? :D

Nah, no thanks. We can do better than this. The Nordic model is a good start esp. Denmark.

Your focus, as we have been conditioned to think over the years, is that the only significant tax base available are the Middle Classes. This is so untrue.

Let's take this example: your wealth increases each year by £60k, principally through income, and you pay an overall effective tax rate of, say, 35%. Let's then say that my wealth increases by £100m each year but my overall effective tax rate is 10% or less. Do you think this is fair & equitable?

Sephiroth 21-10-2023 18:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36162458)
You are wrong. Most people do not know how the global, pan-tax jurisdiction, corporate capitalist market works.

Your argument is basically this: the ultra-wealthy are going to roger us what ever we try and do so we may as well just bend over and suck it up? :D

Nah, no thanks. We can do better than this. The Nordic model is a good start esp. Denmark.

Your focus, as we have been conditioned to think over the years, is that the only significant tax base available are the Middle Classes. This is so untrue.

Let's take this example: your wealth increases each year by £60k, principally through income, and you pay an overall effective tax rate of, say, 35%. Let's then say that my wealth increases by £100m each year but my overall effective tax rate is 10% or less. Do you think this is fair & equitable?

All that 'most people' you mentioned need to do is to read my previous post. Then they'll understand how it all works.

If those '£100K' bods are overtaxed, they'll leave and take the jobs they employ with them. I suggest you join the dots.

As to effective tax rates, I didn't understand your calculation by reason of the cumulative increase you cited. What did you mean by 'your wealth increasing by £60K (or £100K) per year'? After tax? After spending? What is the taxable salary within those figures?

Paul 21-10-2023 18:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36162432)
Don't waste it on the NHS or public services, let's stuff our pockets even more before we're booted out... .
Typical nonsense.
Every tax payer who pays 40% isnt automatically a Conservative.

jfman 21-10-2023 19:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36162513)

All that 'most people' you mentioned need to do is to read my previous post. Then they'll understand how it all works.

If those '£100K' bods are overtaxed, they'll leave and take the jobs they employ with them. I suggest you join the dots.

As to effective tax rates, I didn't understand your calculation by reason of the cumulative increase you cited. What did you mean by 'your wealth increasing by £60K (or £100K) per year'? After tax? After spending? What is the taxable salary within those figures?
I doubt most 100k a year bods have the ability to move their jobs to other countries. Surely that’s up to employers who would do so anyway if there was anything in it for them.

Sephiroth 21-10-2023 19:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36162520)
I doubt most 100k a year bods have the ability to move their jobs to other countries. Surely that’s up to employers who would do so anyway if there was anything in it for them.
Ah - but Ian kept it vague as to what he meant by wealth growing by £100K/year. So there's no real reference point.

Ian doesn't like the idea of people being wealthy and only paying a top rate of 45% tax. If those people have their tax increased, they'll leave, imo. The wealthy may well have big business here and I have no doubt that they would move those business to a lower taxation country.

jfman 21-10-2023 20:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36162521)
Ah - but Ian kept it vague as to what he meant by wealth growing by £100K/year. So there's no real reference point.

Ian doesn't like the idea of people being wealthy and only paying a top rate of 45% tax. If those people have their tax increased, they'll leave, imo. The wealthy may well have big business here and I have no doubt that they would move those business to a lower taxation country.
I’m not convinced the vast, vast, majority of higher earners in this country will have the skills or expertise to move abroad for a marginal tax advantage. Those that could have would have done so.

Pierre 21-10-2023 20:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36162522)
I’m not convinced the vast, vast, majority of higher earners in this country will have the skills or expertise to move abroad for a marginal tax advantage. Those that could have would have done so.
Indeed, You’d be surprised how many “high earners”, by definition, aren’t really.

They’re comfortable, have a nice house, have at least one decent fortnight abroad at a good hotel, maybe even sneak a week at half term, probably have two cars.

But they still live month to month with their pay, and if either lost their job they could soon see themselves in the shit.

ianch99 21-10-2023 21:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36162513)

All that 'most people' you mentioned need to do is to read my previous post. Then they'll understand how it all works.

If those '£100K' bods are overtaxed, they'll leave and take the jobs they employ with them. I suggest you join the dots.

As to effective tax rates, I didn't understand your calculation by reason of the cumulative increase you cited. What did you mean by 'your wealth increasing by £60K (or £100K) per year'? After tax? After spending? What is the taxable salary within those figures?
Everybody, gather round and read Seph's previous post to understand the detail of how the global, pan-tax jurisdiction, corporate capitalist market works and the intricacies of arcane financial instruments. You're a funny man :D

I never mentioned '£100K bods' so not sure where you got that from. As to leaving and taking their jobs with them, your Brexit put paid to most of that.

Finally, for such a financial guru, you would think that when we are discussing effective tax rates, it is blindingly obvious we are discussing the tax rate applied to gross income/wealth gains.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36162521)
Ah - but Ian kept it vague as to what he meant by wealth growing by £100K/year. So there's no real reference point.

Ian doesn't like the idea of people being wealthy and only paying a top rate of 45% tax. If those people have their tax increased, they'll leave, imo. The wealthy may well have big business here and I have no doubt that they would move those business to a lower taxation country.
Again, I never mentioned people paying 45% tax rate. Classic deflection from addressing the point I made.

I also like the idea of people being wealthy e.g. I like myself. I am not saying that middle income earners are to be impacted. Please stop making up BS.

I'll ask the question again:

Quote:
Let's take this example: your wealth increases each year by £60k, principally through income, and you pay an overall effective tax rate of, say, 35%. Let's then say that my wealth increases by £100m each year but my overall effective tax rate is 10% or less. Do you think this is fair & equitable?

jfman 21-10-2023 21:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36162524)
Indeed, You’d be surprised how many “high earners”, by definition, aren’t really.

They’re comfortable, have a nice house, have at least one decent fortnight abroad at a good hotel, maybe even sneak a week at half term, probably have two cars.

But they still live month to month with their pay, and if either lost their job they could soon see themselves in the shit.
This is where the Tories have let their base down. Folk on 100 grand a year, big house, good job weren’t meant to be worse off.

Interest rates and energy shaft everyone and that wasn’t the deal.

Sephiroth 21-10-2023 23:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36162525)
Everybody, gather round and read Seph's previous post to understand the detail of how the global, pan-tax jurisdiction, corporate capitalist market works and the intricacies of arcane financial instruments. You're a funny man :D

I never mentioned '£100K bods' so not sure where you got that from. As to leaving and taking their jobs with them, your Brexit put paid to most of that.

Finally, for such a financial guru, you would think that when we are discussing effective tax rates, it is blindingly obvious we are discussing the tax rate applied to gross income/wealth gains.

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Again, I never mentioned people paying 45% tax rate. Classic deflection from addressing the point I made.

I also like the idea of people being wealthy e.g. I like myself. I am not saying that middle income earners are to be impacted. Please stop making up BS.

I'll ask the question again:

Quote:
Let's take this example: your wealth increases each year by £60k, principally through income, and you pay an overall effective tax rate of, say, 35%. Let's then say that my wealth increases by £100m each year but my overall effective tax rate is 10% or less. Do you think this is fair & equitable?
Quote:
I never mentioned '£100K bods' so not sure where you got that from. As to leaving and taking their jobs with them, your Brexit put paid to most of that.
You're splitting hairs here. What you have avoided explaining is what the heck you meant by this £60m/£100m 'example'.

Quote:
Again, I never mentioned people paying 45% tax rate. Classic deflection from addressing the point I made.
You don't have to have mentioned the 45% tax rate for me to introduce it into the conversation. You go on about the tax gap between the £60m bod and the £100m bod. The only inference to be drawn is that you wish the richer person to be subject to a higher tax rate, or a wealth tax, or something because you never defined the £60m/£100m wealth increase.

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... it is blindingly obvious we are discussing the tax rate applied to gross income/wealth gains.
You mentioned an effective tax rate (I now assume CGT) of 10% for the £100m bod. Where does that come from?

GrimUpNorth 22-10-2023 09:54
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36162528)





You're splitting hairs here. What you have avoided explaining is what the heck you meant by this £60m/£100m 'example'.



You don't have to have mentioned the 45% tax rate for me to introduce it into the conversation. You go on about the tax gap between the £60m bod and the £100m bod. The only inference to be drawn is that you wish the richer person to be subject to a higher tax rate, or a wealth tax, or something because you never defined the £60m/£100m wealth increase.



You mentioned an effective tax rate (I now assume CGT) of 10% for the £100m bod. Where does that come from?
I think everyone (even you) knows what Ian is saying, I also think you're just going out of your way to be obtuse because you know he's got a point and cant bring yourself to agree.

Sephiroth 22-10-2023 10:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36162531)
I think everyone (even you) knows what Ian is saying, I also think you're just going out of your way to be obtuse because you know he's got a point and cant bring yourself to agree.

Not at all, Grim. Ian seems to hate all things Tory (possibly due to Brexit) and uses social injustice through the wealth gap as his illustration in the current exchange of words.

There are better reasons to dislike the Tories.

What I have done is to point out the consequences of narrowing the wealth gap due to human nature. I have also asked Ian to provide a better definition of his £60K/£100K wealth increase (which he has done) and as a consequence I've asked him where he got his 10% effective tax rate from (because CGT has two bands of rates).

Iain has also cited Denmark as a model for income equality and has recommended that model for the UK. He's right about his description of Denmark and wrong about its applicability to the UK. Denmark has 1/10 of the UK's population and its economic activity is vastly different from that of the UK. With only 6m people, there aren't as many pips to be squeezed by the ultra-rich, so they aren't present.

It's all about understanding how the various economies work. Labour's 13 years of rule didn't change the dynamics of the UK's economy and couldn't touch the wealth gap; nor can the Tories.

The economy pretty much runs itself through business activity. The Government just needs to stimulate the economy through tax/investment incentives, which is not their current approach.

All I ask of Ian is that gets real on this particular subject.

jfman 22-10-2023 11:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36162532)
Iain has also cited Denmark as a model for income equality and has recommended that model for the UK. He's right about his description of Denmark and wrong about its applicability to the UK. Denmark has 1/10 of the UK's population and its economic activity is vastly different from that of the UK. With only 6m people, there aren't as many pips to be squeezed by the ultra-rich, so they aren't present.
Thanks for, inadvertently I assume, making the case for Scottish independence. ;)

Sephiroth 22-10-2023 16:03
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36162533)
Thanks for, inadvertently I assume, making the case for Scottish independence. ;)

You're welcome.

Ms NTL 23-10-2023 15:03
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
The incompetence of this government :

* if you make £125,000 or more you lose your tax free allowance (the first £12,570)

Hunt announced that ( for every two quid you make above 100K you lose £1 of your tax allowance ). A complicated way to say: we are getting your allowance.

* But when you get your state pension, this is also taken from your tax free allowance.

What???? The allowance is already gone!

The tax people do not know what to do. "to be reviewed next April" and you get an X (not twitter) in your tax code!

Hugh 25-10-2023 19:01
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Another by-election (probably…)

https://news.sky.com/story/peter-bon...weeks-12990803

Quote:
Peter Bone: Ex-Tory MP accused of sexual misconduct and bullying suspended from Commons for six weeks

The sanction means he will face a recall petition in his constituency, which could lead to yet another by-election for Rishi Sunak's party.

denphone 26-10-2023 16:54
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Conservative MP arrested on suspicion of rape and possession of drugs.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ugs-possession

Quote:
A Conservative MP has been arrested on suspicion of rape and possession of drugs, the Guardian has learned.

Police said a man was arrested on Wednesday morning before being released on conditional bail.

Westminster sources confirmed the man, whom the Guardian is not naming, is a sitting MP.

A spokesperson for a UK police force, which is also not being named, said: “We can confirm a man … was arrested yesterday morning … on suspicion of rape and possession of controlled substances.

1andrew1 26-10-2023 17:14
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36162810)
Conservative MP arrested on suspicion of rape and possession of drugs.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ugs-possession
Actually quite sad to read this.

Mr K 26-10-2023 17:33
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36162811)
Actually quite sad to read this.
Do they put viagra into the gin at CCHQ? They should just turn it into a jail. Problem sorted.

Hugh 26-10-2023 18:06
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36162810)
Conservative MP arrested on suspicion of rape and possession of drugs.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ugs-possession
https://news.sky.com/story/senior-to...ances-12993261

Quote:
Conservative MP Crispin Blunt says he has been arrested on suspicion of rape and possession of controlled substances.

In a statement on X, the Reigate MP said: "It has been reported that an MP was arrested yesterday in connection with an allegation of rape.

"I am confirming that MP was me. The fact of the arrest requires a formal notification of the Speaker and then my Chief Whip.

"I have now been interviewed twice in connection with this incident, the first time three weeks ago, when I initially reported my concern over extortion. The second time was earlier this morning under caution following arrest.

"The arrest was unnecessary as I remain ready to co-operate fully with the investigation that I am confident will end without charge.

"I do not intend to say anything further on this matter until the police have completed their inquiries."

Hugh 27-10-2023 12:16
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
1 Attachment(s)
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1698405347

:D

richard-john56 27-10-2023 16:59
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Sad old bunch these savage Tories

Mr K 27-10-2023 18:13
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by richard-john56 (Post 36162862)
Sad old bunch these savage Tories
Au contraire, they seem to be taking advantage of their position to have a corrupt, self indulgent jolly good time. ( and we're paying for it in lots of ways).

They are laughing at the electorate, and will be ok whatever, as they've stuffed their pockets at every opportunity.

Paul 28-10-2023 01:17
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by richard-john56 (Post 36162862)
Sad old bunch these savage Tories
Thet're also innocent until proven otherwise ;)

Paul 28-10-2023 16:18
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Off topic posts removed.

Hugh 06-11-2023 10:59
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ry-claims.html

Quote:
Fury in Westminster amid bombshell claims the Tory party covered up alleged rapes by a Conservative MP with Rishi Sunak under mounting pressure to launch an urgent enquiry into the claims

Oliver Dowden acknowledged party may have funded treatment for victim

Rishi Sunak was last night under mounting pressure to investigate bombshell claims that his party covered up alleged rapes by a Tory MP.

Senior figures on all sides at Westminster demanded an urgent inquiry into shocking allegations that the Conservatives sat on the sexual assault claims for years.

Oliver Dowden even acknowledged that his party may have secretly funded medical treatment for a woman who told officials she had been raped by a Tory MP.

The Deputy Prime Minister, who served as party chairman until June last year, said: ‘It may be the case. I’m not denying that it could be the case that those payments were made, but it’s not something that I authorised.’

The devastating claims are alluded to in an explosive new book from ex-minister Nadine Dorries and were first reported by The Mail on Sunday.

The newspaper revealed yesterday that former Tory chairman Jake Berry and former chief whip Wendy Morton wrote to the police last year urging them to investigate after learning of the alleged cover-up.

Last night there was mounting pressure for an inquiry into the scandal.

Former Cabinet minister David Davis said the claims were so serious they should be investigated by the police, who are already looking into the rape allegations.

Mr Davis said there was ‘no argument in the world that can support covering up such a thing, if it’s true’.

‘Obviously, covering up a case like that is a criminal offence in its own right,’ he told GB News yesterday. ‘So it’s probably a matter for the police now.’

jfman 06-11-2023 11:17
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
I’m losing track of all the allegations of sex offences against Conservative MPs.

Hugh 06-11-2023 11:48
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36163485)
I’m losing track of all the allegations of sex offences against Conservative MPs.
Come on, it wouldn’t be fair to blame the majority of decent, hardworking MPs and Party workers and members with the alleged criminal behaviours of a minority…

Mr K 06-11-2023 11:51
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36163485)
I’m losing track of all the allegations of sex offences against Conservative MPs.
There's a handy list here , it needs updating with the latest ones though ;)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...-boris-johnson

Mr K 07-11-2023 22:01
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Boris Johnson "wanted to be injected with Covid-19 on television" to calm public fears, an ex-aide has said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67347456

God help us.. If you voted for this 'd' head or his party you deserve everything you get...

denphone 08-11-2023 06:28
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36163609)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67347456

God help us.. If you voted for this 'd' head or his party you deserve everything you get...
This remark is even worse by him.

Quote:
"let the bodies pile high"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJiQrEr5oXc

OLD BOY 08-11-2023 14:36
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Yes, Den, but he was talking about predominantly older bodies. Don’t forget, this is nature’s way, nothing to do with Boris.

He was deliberately provoking the debate that this fight against nature would cost us the economy and ultimately would be unsuccessful anyway. A decision had to be made on whether this was a sensible option. It’s a debate that had to be had.

Hugh 08-11-2023 14:43
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36163665)
Yes, Den, but he was talking about predominantly older bodies. Don’t forget, this is nature’s way, nothing to do with Boris.

He was deliberately provoking the debate that this fight against nature would cost us the economy and ultimately would be unsuccessful anyway. A decision had to be made on whether this was a sensible option. It’s a debate that had to be had.
You’re talking rubbish - just like Boris did at the time.

He said that because the average age of the COVID deaths at the time was 82, and the average life span was 80, it was "nature’s way".

In fact, in 2020, the expected lifespan of an 80 year old was another 9 years.

https://knoema.com/atlas/United-King...20of%203.78%25.

OLD BOY 08-11-2023 14:52
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36163669)
You’re talking rubbish - just like Boris did at the time.

He said that because the average age of the COVID deaths at the time was 82, and the average life span was 80, it was "nature’s way".

In fact, in 2020, the expected lifespan of an 80 year old was another 9 years.

https://knoema.com/atlas/United-King...20of%203.78%25.
That doesn’t take away the fact that it was the elderly population that was most vulnerable. Most people require quite a lot of medication to keep them alive and as comfortable as possible by the time they reach their 80s.

Mr K 09-11-2023 18:58
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36163665)
Yes, Den, but he was talking about predominantly older bodies. Don’t forget, this is nature’s way, nothing to do with Boris.

He was deliberately provoking the debate that this fight against nature would cost us the economy and ultimately would be unsuccessful anyway. A decision had to be made on whether this was a sensible option. It’s a debate that had to be had.
Boris wasn't provoking a debate, he's a moron that somehow became PM. The fall out from him and Truss will last for decades. The electorate can only blame themselves if they fell for 'Let's get B̶r̶e̶x̶i̶t̶ Britain done' - he certainly did that.

jfman 09-11-2023 19:03
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
I think I prefer the genocide thread to the enforced euthanasia debate that seems to be imminent.

1andrew1 10-11-2023 07:43
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Just read that Braverman's article in The Times was not run past No 10. Wonder what Sunak might do?

Hugh 10-11-2023 08:08
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36163723)
Just read that Braverman's article in The Times was not run past No 10. Wonder what Sunak might do?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67368785

Quote:
The article was not cleared by Downing Street and suggested changes to the text were not followed, No 10 said...

… The ministerial code says all major interviews and media appearances, both print and broadcast, should "be agreed with the No 10 Press Office".

Mr K 10-11-2023 08:12
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36163723)
Just read that Braverman's article in The Times was not run past No 10. Wonder what Sunak might do?
Nobody cares Andrew, they'll all be gone soon. This is just an early scrap on who is going to be leader of the Opposition ( if they manage to get enough seats to be the opposition..)
If the lunatics in the asylum choose Suella they'll be out of power for a very long time...

Sephiroth 10-11-2023 08:20
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
I'm very disappointed that Braverman has put her job in jeopardy.
There is no doubt in my mind that a person in her position must clear her speeches/articles with the Cabinet Office and she appears to have failed that obligation.

The article is broadly correct save for the reference to Ulster, which does not sufficiently delineate the causes involved.

'Hate Marches' is a fair characterisation of the marches (certainly in the minds of the organisers) as any reasonable person could deduce. The policing has gone wrong as demonstrated by the difference in treatment between demonstrators and, e.g., the poor man in East London who was dobbed in for a commentary he was making towards his own documentary video.

Nevertheless, Sunak must assert his authority and must, in some way, discipline Braverman. To my mind, a public admonition would do this time.


---------- Post added at 08:20 ---------- Previous post was at 08:18 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36163732)
Nobody cares Andrew, they'll all be gone soon. This is just an early scrap on who is going to be leader of the Opposition ( if they manage to get enough seats to be the opposition..)
If the lunatics in the asylum choose Suella they'll be out of power for a very long time...
... and then the next problem arises. Labour is riddled with Jew haters who are now asserting their electoral muscle. I have warned you lot.

jfman 10-11-2023 08:35
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
A presume that “reasonable” person is an autocorrect from “racist”?

Hugh 10-11-2023 09:23
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Sephiroth

Hate Marches' is a fair characterisation of the marches (certainly in the minds of the organisers) as any reasonable person could deduce
Your idea of what defines a "reasonable person" certainly explains a lot of your posts…

The Royal British Legion disagree with you.

Quote:
But the Royal British Legion, which runs the Poppy Appeal, said: “Our armed forces play a vital role in protecting the rights and freedoms of everyone in UK society, including the right to protest.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2445123.html

Maggy 10-11-2023 09:28
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36163737)
Your idea of what defines a "reasonable person" certainly explains a lot of your posts…

The Royal British Legion disagree with you.



https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2445123.html
:tu:
They sure do..

Pierre 10-11-2023 09:58
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Conservative Home Secretary, expresses Conservative views, which most Conservatives (and country) on this issue would probably agree with.................is demanded to resign.

This is why the conservatives are doomed, not because of party gate, not because of inflation, not because of the small boats.

Simply because the conservative are not conservative anymore, and haven't been for some time. They're way further off to the left of Blairs government.

And to think Labour are further to the left than this Tory government just fills me with dread.

Hugh 10-11-2023 10:05
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36163746)
Conservative Home Secretary, expresses Conservative views, which most Conservatives (and country) on this issue would probably agree with.................is demanded to resign.

This is why the conservatives are doomed, not because of party gate, not because of inflation, not because of the small boats.

Simply because the conservative are not conservative anymore, and haven't been for some time. They're way further off to the left of Blairs government.

And to think Labour are further to the left than this Tory government just fills me with dread.
Not sure most of the country agrees with you (or her) on that…

Latest YouGov poll.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1699610672

Pierre 10-11-2023 10:33
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36163750)
Not sure most of the country agrees with you (or her) on that…

Latest YouGov poll.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1699610672
Is that poll about this issue of protests and marches on remembrance Sunday? or her in general?


Also if it is about her in general, just two words......You.....Gov...... very reliable source.

Hugh 10-11-2023 12:15
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36163754)
Is that poll about this issue of protests and marches on remembrance Sunday? or her in general?


Also if it is about her in general, just two words......You.....Gov...... very reliable source.
We'll have to agree to disagree there...

YouGov is only one word.

Damien 10-11-2023 12:29
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36163746)
Conservative Home Secretary, expresses Conservative views, which most Conservatives (and country) on this issue would probably agree with.................is demanded to resign.
Banning marches isn't a Conservative view, leaning on the police to do it for you isn't either.

You may not like these marches but I can't see why they should be banned.

I also think they're doomed because of inflation, cost of living and the NHS. People care more about their day-to-day lives than a protest in London going ahead.

TheDaddy 10-11-2023 12:54
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163733)
and then the next problem arises. Labour is riddled with Jew haters who are now asserting their electoral muscle. I have warned you lot.
and like your other warnings on race people won't listen because you're full it, jew haters are the right wing nut jobs who gassed them 80 years ago and is that really yhe best you can do, a dislike of Israeli government policy and the actions of it's army isn't the same as a dislike of Jews no matter how much the Israeli government demands it to be, still they'll be glad one person at least has fallen for it

Sephiroth 10-11-2023 13:51
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36163760)
and like your other warnings on race people won't listen because you're full it, jew haters are the right wing nut jobs who gassed them 80 years ago and is that really yhe best you can do, a dislike of Israeli government policy and the actions of it's army isn't the same as a dislike of Jews no matter how much the Israeli government demands it to be, still they'll be glad one person at least has fallen for it
You really are blinkered. The Jew haters were certainly Hamas on October 7th. The demonstrators in London didn't suddenly come out on a Free Palestine ticket - that was just their honey spoonful to disguise their hatred of the Jews and Israel and, by corollary anyone in the UK who dares not to support them. Note the many placards support for Hamas (from the river to the sea).

Be careful -there are nearly 3 million of that culture here and when 100,000 of them come out to celebrate Hamas, our police have no control.

Hugh 10-11-2023 15:42
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies....november-2023/

Quote:
A key question in the next General Election in the United Kingdom will be whether the Conservative Party can retain its seats in the so-called ‘Blue Wall’ of affluent, southern constituencies where the party has traditionally won, but where its support has been slipping in recent years—particularly in response to the party’s positioning on Brexit.1 At Redfield and Wilton Strategies, we have taken up the challenge of regularly polling this cluster of politically salient constituencies.

In the forty-two ‘Blue Wall’ seats that we identify and poll, the Conservatives won all in 2019 with 49.74% of the vote to the Liberal Democrats 27.45%. The Labour Party came third in this collection of seats, taking 20.6% of the vote.

Our latest poll of the Blue Wall finds Labour now leading the Conservatives by 4%, overturning the four-point advantage the Conservatives held in our previous Blue Wall poll last month. This is also the largest lead Labour has recorded in our Blue Wall tracker since the end of July.

Altogether, the results of our poll (with changes from 7 October in parentheses) are as follows:

Labour 34% (+2)
Conservative 30% (-6)
Liberal Democrat 25% (–)
Reform UK 6% (+2)
Green 4% (+1)
Other 1% (–)


When those who say they do not know how they would vote in a General Election are included, Labour also leads by 4%. After weighting by likelihood to vote, 12% of the sample says they do not know how they would vote, including 13% of those who voted Conservative in December 2019, 11% of those who voted for the Liberal Democrats, and 4% of those who voted for Labour.

Altogether, 83% of those who voted Labour in 2019 say they would vote Labour again, while 70% of those who voted Liberal Democrat say they would vote for the party at the next election.

Only 55% of 2019 Conservative voters now say they would vote Conservative again if a General Election were held tomorrow. 16% say they would vote for Labour, 8% would switch to Reform UK, and 7% would vote for the Liberal Democrats.

Dave42 10-11-2023 18:36
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36163723)
Just read that Braverman's article in The Times was not run past No 10. Wonder what Sunak might do?
he wont do anything Andrew he knows sacking her means he be next out as the right wing will put all them letters in

Mr K 10-11-2023 18:42
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36163794)
he wont do anything Andrew he knows sacking her means he be next out as the right wing will put all them letters in
Suella is desperate to get sacked so she can start her leadership bid. Rishi hasn't fallen for it yet. Maybe she should try firing paper darts at him during PM questions? Or taking a dump in his office?

Paul 10-11-2023 19:32
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Only 55% of 2019 Conservative voters now say they would vote Conservative again if a General Election were held tomorrow. 16% say they would vote for Labour, 8% would switch to Reform UK, and 7% would vote for the Liberal Democrats.
Hmmm, so what are the other 14% going to do ?

Dave42 10-11-2023 20:01
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Suella Braverman row: Leaked messages reveal scale of civil war between Tory MPs over policing of pro-Palestinian marches and home secretary's behaviour

https://news.sky.com/story/suella-br...sages-13004844

Mr K 10-11-2023 20:15
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36163799)
Suella Braverman row: Leaked messages reveal scale of civil war between Tory MPs over policing of pro-Palestinian marches and home secretary's behaviour

https://news.sky.com/story/suella-br...sages-13004844
Cable Forum sounds a far more reasoned debate than squabbling Tory mps.
( this WhatsApp thing is nothing but trouble, seems people are being made accountable
for stuff they say, including the various PMs of the day. Glad I deleted it ;))

Hugh 11-11-2023 00:02
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36163796)
Hmmm, so what are the other 14% going to do ?
Don’t Know?

There are 2 other lines on the graph, one at 13% and one at 1%, with no annotation

nffc 11-11-2023 13:07
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36163723)
Just read that Braverman's article in The Times was not run past No 10. Wonder what Sunak might do?
Probably whatever Dougie Smith or the mysterious character referred to as "Dr No" want to do, if one believes Nadine Dorries (or the people she spoke to).

Kursk 13-11-2023 12:23
Home Secretary sacked and replaced by Remoaner
 
Bad move Rishi; keep your enemies close, especially if they are as perceptive of reading the room as Ms Braverman.

denphone 15-11-2023 10:39
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
The Supreme Court rules against the UK government's plan to send asylum seekers to Rwanda, saying it's unlawful.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-67418363

https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/do...ss-summary.pdf

peanut 15-11-2023 10:45
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36164233)
The Supreme Court rules against the UK government's plan to send asylum seekers to Rwanda, saying it's unlawful.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-67418363

https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/do...ss-summary.pdf
Well that was a waste of £140 million quid.

denphone 15-11-2023 10:56
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36164234)
Well that was a waste of £140 million quid.
Which joins the long list of waste by this government...

Russ 15-11-2023 10:57
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36164233)
The Supreme Court rules against the UK government's plan to send asylum seekers to Rwanda, saying it's unlawful.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-67418363

https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/do...ss-summary.pdf
Wah-wah-waaaahhhhh :rofl:

ianch99 15-11-2023 11:01
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36164233)
The Supreme Court rules against the UK government's plan to send asylum seekers to Rwanda, saying it's unlawful.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-67418363

https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/do...ss-summary.pdf
Cue "Enemies of the People" ...

denphone 15-11-2023 11:12
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36164240)
Cue "Enemies of the People" ...
Yep no doubt the right wing media are preparing their ultra banner headlines now for tomorrows early print editions.

Dave42 15-11-2023 11:32
Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36164240)
Cue "Enemies of the People" ...
all ready been done on twitter by far right MP Brendan Clarke-Smith

Christopher Hope saying on twitter more letters going in


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