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jfman 09-04-2022 20:36
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36118669)
So basically become the equivalent of Sky ? Wouldn’t that also mean those on lower tiers would see their prices increase whether interested in Sport or not ?
Bingo.

1andrew1 09-04-2022 21:06
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36118665)
No, that is your assumption, but it is not what I meant. I’m talking about additional quality content such as concerts, sport and early viewings of new films, etc.
What's the business logic in taking Netflix into this direction and spreading itself more thinly? It's secured a good niche in standardised global on-demand entertainment content.

OLD BOY 10-04-2022 10:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36118669)
So basically become the equivalent of Sky ? Wouldn’t that also mean those on lower tiers would see their prices increase whether interested in Sport or not ?
Why would that impact on the lower tiers? I was suggesting that subscribers could be offered a more expensive tier with exclusive content. It would be the people who subscribed to that more expensive tier who would pay for it.

cheekyangus 10-04-2022 12:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36118709)
Why would that impact on the lower tiers? I was suggesting that subscribers could be offered a more expensive tier with exclusive content. It would be the people who subscribed to that more expensive tier who would pay for it.
All tiers contribute to the money pot whether they labelled as for something specific or not. Tiers in all businesses that have them cross subsidise to a greater or lesser extent. Some tiers are more viable than others.

muppetman11 10-04-2022 12:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36118709)
Why would that impact on the lower tiers? I was suggesting that subscribers could be offered a more expensive tier with exclusive content. It would be the people who subscribed to that more expensive tier who would pay for it.
You just don’t get business do you ?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36118713)
All tiers contribute to the money pot whether they labelled as for something specific or not. Tiers in all businesses that have them cross subsidise to a greater or lesser extent. Some tiers are more viable than others.
Correct completely agree.

OLD BOY 10-04-2022 16:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36118713)
All tiers contribute to the money pot whether they labelled as for something specific or not. Tiers in all businesses that have them cross subsidise to a greater or lesser extent. Some tiers are more viable than others.
That may be how Sky and Virgin do it, but that doesn’t have to be the case.

Anyway, the point I’m making is that there is scope for Netflix to increase income and reduce expenditure and start paying off its debts.

jfman 10-04-2022 17:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36118723)
That may be how Sky and Virgin do it, but that doesn’t have to be the case.

Anyway, the point I’m making is that there is scope for Netflix to increase income and reduce expenditure and start paying off its debts.
How do they reduce expenditure by buying more rights? :confused:

OLD BOY 10-04-2022 19:14
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36118731)
How do they reduce expenditure by buying more rights? :confused:
Paid by the increased subscriptions, of course!

jfman 10-04-2022 19:17
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36118734)
Paid by the increased subscriptions, of course!
That’s revenue, not expenditure.

OLD BOY 10-04-2022 19:50
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36118735)
That’s revenue, not expenditure.
Yes, but I was talking about reduced expenditure in relation to current subscriptions. The increased expenditure on additional premium content would come from additional receipts.

jfman 10-04-2022 20:00
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I’d love to see the direction their subscriptions go with inflation busting price rises and less money being spent on content. In one of the most competitive markets there is with some of the worlds biggest media conglomerates. There’s even some that aren’t in mountains of debt.

OLD BOY 11-04-2022 08:09
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An interesting article here.

https://www.tvbeurope.com/media-deli...-differentiate

[EXTRACT]

So, what’s next for streaming? Already, we’re seeing agreements with as-a-service application providers and carrier service providers to apply quality-of-service (QoS) prioritisation to their specific application traffic, improving the performance of those services for a nominal monthly fee. We are likely to see similar arrangements develop over time, with partnerships being established between internet providers or backbone networks to ensure that streaming traffic gets to consumers faster. In the future, the market may well be made up of tiered services, where consumers can pay for enhanced streaming services.

Ultimately, the SVoD and BVoD operators that can offer these value-add propositions, while maintaining visibility of the networks and providers that are working together to deliver a first-rate user experience will be the ones to survive and thrive.

Hugh 11-04-2022 09:51
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Mmmmm….

A network equipment manufacturer’s representative thinks that ISPs/etc. should charge content providers a monthly fee to enable their network traffic to be prioritised, which the consumer would have to pay for (on top of their Streaming Service subscriptions).

The only winners here are the equipment manufacturers, ISPs/Network Services providers, & Streaming Services - the losers, with escalating costs, are the end-user/customers…

tl:dr - a supplier to Trans-Global Corporates wants you, the customer, to pay more for what you already pay for so they (T-G Cs) don’t have to reduce their profit to provide an adequate service.

Strangely enough, the guy who wrote the article works for a company which has a solution for this…

Quote:
ThousandEyes End User Monitoring delivers both on-demand and real-time visibility into each employee’s experience of SaaS and Internally-hosted applications, as well as underlying wireless LAN, WAN, Internet connectivity and system health. This empowers your network and IT teams to quickly troubleshoot performance issues related to Wi-Fi, bandwidth capacity, ISP routing, VPN gateways, SaaS availability and other sources, while measuring web page load times and other key performance indicators.
https://www.thousandeyes.com/product...ser-monitoring

BenMcr 11-04-2022 11:48
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And once everyone has QoS options, you're back to square one, unless you then start charging for a priority fee on top of your priority fee.

muppetman11 12-04-2022 21:42
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Sky Stream puck to be a standalone internet TV device, for full Sky TV over broadband

https://www.pocket-lint.com/tv/news/...over-broadband

ozsat 13-04-2022 05:43
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The headline is misleading - it is NOT full Sky tv. It is the same cut-down version that Sky Glass customers get.

Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36118950)
Sky Stream puck to be a standalone internet TV device, for full Sky TV over broadband

https://www.pocket-lint.com/tv/news/...over-broadband

Legendkiller2k 13-04-2022 13:52
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Fifa have released a free streaming service called FIFA+ https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/home

Raider999 13-04-2022 17:42
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Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36118987)
The headline is misleading - it is NOT full Sky tv. It is the same cut-down version that Sky Glass customers get.


I would agree - from what I have read it will use the puck to get a 'Glass like' service without the need to buy a Glass TV - this catering for the majority who already have a better quality TV than the Glass offerings but would prefer to have a no dish solution.

Itshim 14-04-2022 10:37
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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36119066)
I would agree - from what I have read it will use the puck to get a 'Glass like' service without the need to buy a Glass TV - this catering for the majority who already have a better quality TV than the Glass offerings but would prefer to have a no dish solution.
Sounds interesting,

SnoopZ 16-04-2022 08:39
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6 months Disney+ subscription for £8 of Tesco Clubcard Vouchers, available from 11 April – 29 April.

https://secure.tesco.com/clubcard/vo.../UK-010069.prd

1andrew1 18-04-2022 10:25
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Not too surprised!
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UK households cancel streaming subscriptions in record numbers

About 1.5mn accounts terminated within three months as inflation squeezes finances

Many consumers are still signing up for streaming services. Kantar’s research, which was based on interviews with 14,500 people, found that about 3 per cent of British households took out a subscription during the first quarter.

However, this was a marked slowdown from the 4.2 per cent that did so in the same period a year ago.

Cancellations, meanwhile, accelerated, from 1.2mn a year ago and from 1.04mn during the final three months of 2021.

After budgetary concerns, the most frequently cited reasons given by those who terminated their subscriptions were that they did not use them often enough and that the platforms lacked new shows they wanted to watch.

The net effect was for the number of households with at least one paid subscription to decline by 215,000 compared with the previous quarter, to 16.9mn.

Britbox, Apple TV Plus and Discovery Plus had the highest churn rate — meaning they lost the most users on a gross basis.
https://www.ft.com/content/1c7e255e-...7-6061175ba5f3

muppetman11 18-04-2022 10:52
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Also reported here

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61139483

denphone 18-04-2022 11:05
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36119354)
Yes as you say it comes as no surprise with the big two suffering far less of a churn rate then Disney+, Now TV and the others smaller streaming services.

Some of the lesser streamers have been offering near half price deals to try to keep their subscribers from dropping them.

1andrew1 18-04-2022 12:02
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36119357)
Yes as you say it comes as no surprise with the big two suffering far less of a churn rate then Disney+, Now TV and the others smaller streaming services.

Some of the lesser streamers have been offering near half price deals to try to keep their subscribers from dropping them.
Yes. I think the churn rate for Apple + is understandable as that service is given away with many TVs and Apple products and many cancel after it becomes a charged service. Britbox UK is effectively becoming part of ITV's new streaming service.

Legendkiller2k 18-04-2022 13:29
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One thing i miss about my old job is having bank holidays off this job we work bank holidays lol,
anyway this is streaming related Microsoft are considering making a move into the streaming market however their approach will be different they want a one service for all aka Netflix, Disney+, Discovery+, Appletv etc all in one service.
Atm Disney and Apple aren't interested but Netflix, Britbox and Starz are showing interest, it will also have Microsofts tv and movie store on it too where you can rent or purchase tv shows/series/movies etc.
I'm keeping a eye on this one closely as it does seem to be gathering steam and Microsoft certainly have the funds to do this.

Richardr 18-04-2022 13:44
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The story in the FT goes on to say:

Quote:
Britbox, Apple TV Plus and Discovery Plus had the highest churn rate — meaning they lost the most users on a gross basis.

Media Boy UK 18-04-2022 15:15
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36119355)
And here:

https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/uk-viewers...aming-services

OLD BOY 18-04-2022 16:18
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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36119368)
One thing i miss about my old job is having bank holidays off this job we work bank holidays lol,
anyway this is streaming related Microsoft are considering making a move into the streaming market however their approach will be different they want a one service for all aka Netflix, Disney+, Discovery+, Appletv etc all in one service.
Atm Disney and Apple aren't interested but Netflix, Britbox and Starz are showing interest, it will also have Microsofts tv and movie store on it too where you can rent or purchase tv shows/series/movies etc.
I'm keeping a eye on this one closely as it does seem to be gathering steam and Microsoft certainly have the funds to do this.
Yes, that’s interesting, Legendkiller. If Microsoft can win over all the streamers and enable you to compile one watchlist for them all, that would be just what I am looking for.

cheekyangus 18-04-2022 16:30
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Fifteenth time lucky for Microsoft and TV. ;-)

Legendkiller2k 18-04-2022 16:57
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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36119386)
Fifteenth time lucky for Microsoft and TV. ;-)
I think this time it's their approach on it taking a different route to what they have done in the past,
it could just end up being something like you can use you Microsoft account to pay for each services so like one bill instead of multiple etc.

cheekyangus 18-04-2022 18:19
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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36119388)
I think this time it's their approach on it taking a different route to what they have done in the past,
it could just end up being something like you can use you Microsoft account to pay for each services so like one bill instead of multiple etc.
They've had (or it feels like they've had) about 12 different approaches over the decades to being involved with television, whether it be broadcast, consumer products or anything remotely close to the industry. I wasn't just meaning 15 tries at the same thing.

jfman 18-04-2022 19:31
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Wait til all those gas and electricity prices go up.

Legendkiller2k 18-04-2022 19:41
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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36119398)
They've had (or it feels like they've had) about 12 different approaches over the decades to being involved with television, whether it be broadcast, consumer products or anything remotely close to the industry. I wasn't just meaning 15 tries at the same thing.
Rich men and their money lol.

RichardCoulter 18-04-2022 23:07
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Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36119380)
Looks like Disney+ are trying to prevent churn with the £8 voucher for 6 months offer posted earlier.

The others have some catching up to do as we enter a period where there is less disposable income since the 1950's.

denphone 19-04-2022 07:08
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36119406)
Wait til all those gas and electricity prices go up.
And a few million subscribers with it.

1andrew1 19-04-2022 22:04
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Talking about subscriber losses:
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Netflix shares drop 22% after it loses 200,000 subscribers

That was far worse than a conservative gain of 2.5 million subscribers forecast by Netflix management.

Netflix’s video streaming service suffered the first loss in worldwide subscribers in its history, deepening troubles that have been mounting since enjoying a surge from a captive audience locked down during the pandemic’s early stages.

The company’s customer base fell by 200,000 subscribers during the January-March period, according to a quarterly report released on Tuesday.

That was far worse than a conservative gain of 2.5 million subscribers forecast by Netflix management.

Now Netflix is bracing for things to get even worse with a projected loss of another two million subscribers during the April-June period.
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...-41568099.html

muppetman11 19-04-2022 22:42
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And if anyone is in doubt about the clampdown on password sharing coming.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/04/19/...is-coming.html

TimeLord2018 19-04-2022 22:49
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CNN+ looks doomed
https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/cnn...ry-1235235816/

Legendkiller2k 20-04-2022 02:02
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Netflix to launch lower ad supported tier https://variety.com/2022/digital/new...ys-1235236296/

SnoopZ 20-04-2022 09:23
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I may look into switching my UK Netflix to a Turkey account, for anyone who does this how much hassle is it and is the content limited? I'm guessing I would need a VPN too so that's more money on top.

Jaymoss 20-04-2022 10:50
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36119560)
I may look into switching my UK Netflix to a Turkey account, for anyone who does this how much hassle is it and is the content limited? I'm guessing I would need a VPN too so that's more money on top.
you only need the VPN to set it up then you use normal UK or US(VPN)

SnoopZ 20-04-2022 10:53
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36119576)
you only need the VPN to set it up then you use normal UK or US(VPN)
Thanks.

What payment methods do they accept and how much does it cost and is the content the same as UK or better?

Jaymoss 20-04-2022 12:03
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I just pay with my standard visa debit card.
As I said you only use the VPN to set it up then you do not need it again after so you just see the content from the local IP services. ie no VPN you get full UK Content with VPN set to USA or Canada you get there full content

Hom3r 20-04-2022 12:08
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I have watched every episode of NCIS for 17 years, yet Di$ney thought it would be a good business model to close down FOX in the UK and put it on Di$ney+.

Now I can't and won't pay to watch NCIS, like many fans in the UK.

I guess they want to cancel the show, as dumping it on a premium platform will kill the large UK fanbase.

epsilon 20-04-2022 12:21
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36119584)
I have watched every episode of NCIS for 17 years, yet Di$ney thought it would be a good business model to close down FOX in the UK and put it on Di$ney+.

Now I can't and won't pay to watch NCIS, like many fans in the UK.

I guess they want to cancel the show, as dumping it on a premium platform will kill the large UK fanbase.
Fox had first run rights to NCIS, which have been transferred to Disney+. NCIS is a Paramount / CBS production and has always been repeated on other networks. I guess it will eventually show up on Channel 5, 5 USA and the CBS channels as it did when it was when Fox aired the first run.

Legendkiller2k 20-04-2022 12:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36119560)
I may look into switching my UK Netflix to a Turkey account, for anyone who does this how much hassle is it and is the content limited? I'm guessing I would need a VPN too so that's more money on top.
Use a good vpn set to Turkey to set it up then aslong as you have a valid debit card on your account it's fine, even if you don't and you need to add one just talk to customer support who'll send you a secure form in chat for you to fill out so they can add your card manually.
I had to do it via cs as it wanted a Turkey based phone number but cs sorted it with the form.

cheekyangus 20-04-2022 14:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36119584)
I have watched every episode of NCIS for 17 years, yet Di$ney thought it would be a good business model to close down FOX in the UK and put it on Di$ney+.

Now I can't and won't pay to watch NCIS, like many fans in the UK.

I guess they want to cancel the show, as dumping it on a premium platform will kill the large UK fanbase.
Quote:
Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36119585)
Fox had first run rights to NCIS, which have been transferred to Disney+. NCIS is a Paramount / CBS production and has always been repeated on other networks. I guess it will eventually show up on Channel 5, 5 USA and the CBS channels as it did when it was when Fox aired the first run.
They've shown every season that Fox UK did on 5USA now, so I as far as I'm concerned it's just a matter of when rather than if the latest season makes it onto UK broadcast.

muppetman11 20-04-2022 14:30
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Now who was it on here who said Netflix would never do adverts :D

https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2022...ing_crackdown/

Legendkiller2k 20-04-2022 15:19
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36119593)
Now who was it on here who said Netflix would never do adverts :D

https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2022...ing_crackdown/
Post 1139 mate :p:

denphone 20-04-2022 16:27
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36119593)
Now who was it on here who said Netflix would never do adverts :D

https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2022...ing_crackdown/
Is this the same one who keeps mentioning 2035.;)

1andrew1 20-04-2022 16:53
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36119593)
Now who was it on here who said Netflix would never do adverts :D

https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2022...ing_crackdown/
Boy, that's Old news! :D

epsilon 20-04-2022 16:59
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36119598)
Is this the same one who keeps mentioning 2035.;)
What's happening at 25 to 9? ;)

OLD BOY 20-04-2022 19:46
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36119593)
Now who was it on here who said Netflix would never do adverts :D

https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2022...ing_crackdown/
I did, on the basis that the Netflix CEO said so and there appeared to be no reason to do so.

Also, I was looking at this question as converting from SVOD to AVOD, and I hadn’t considered having a mix of options. I was simply thinking that Netflix would never force subscribers to watch ads as many use Netflix and other streamers to avoid them (plus other reasons).

Given the financial/subscriber shock to Netflix, now seems the right time to consider a range of options to offer viewers.

muppetman11 20-04-2022 20:05
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36119609)
I did, on the basis that the Netflix CEO said so and there appeared to be no reason to do so.

Also, I was looking at this question as converting from SVOD to AVOD, and I hadn’t considered having a mix of options. I was simply thinking that Netflix would never force subscribers to watch ads as many use Netflix and other streamers to avoid them (plus other reasons).

Given the financial/subscriber shock to Netflix, now seems the right time to consider a range of options to offer viewers.
Things seems to be getting a little more difficult for them , on one hand they need to keep spending more and more on content but that comes at a substantial cost. With new subscribers being harder and harder to attract with the increased competition where do they go after clamping down on password sharing and introducing a cheaper ad tier ?

1andrew1 20-04-2022 21:38
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36119614)
Things seems to be getting a little more difficult for them , on one hand they need to keep spending more and more on content but that comes at a substantial cost. With new subscribers being harder and harder to attract with the increased competition where do they go after clamping down on password sharing and introducing a cheaper ad tier ?
Well, their shares seem to have fallen out of favour more quickly than Rishi Sunak.

They are down today by nearly 40%, a $60bn drop in the company's value!

jfman 21-04-2022 07:01
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36119609)
I did, on the basis that the Netflix CEO said so and there appeared to be no reason to do so.
And like an MOT, or a party manifesto commitment, it’s only words on paper on a given day.

The bubble is bursting.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36119629)
Well, their shares seem to have fallen out of favour more quickly than Rishi Sunak.

They are down today by nearly 40%, a $60bn drop in the company's value!
Ultimately there’s never been any underlying assets or value in the share price. Fundamentally if Netflix can do something Amazon can do it without the debt.

Legendkiller2k 21-04-2022 12:00
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CNN can still be viewed in the UK for free via Rakuten tv i'm not sure on all devices that have Rakuten i know LG and Samsung tvs have it https://blog.rakutenadvertising.com/...-new-channels/

jfman 21-04-2022 12:12
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Deep pockets DAZN look set to lose out on La Liga rights in the UK.

Chris 21-04-2022 13:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36119658)
And like an MOT, or a party manifesto commitment, it’s only words on paper on a given day.

The bubble is bursting.

---------- Post added at 07:01 ---------- Previous post was at 06:58 ----------



Ultimately there’s never been any underlying assets or value in the share price. Fundamentally if Netflix can do something Amazon can do it without the debt.
To be more precise, the share price is not a true reflection of the underlying assets, which do exist - there is content that Netflix owns, and which it is able to sell access to. As too often happens with tech stocks however, the share price has come to reflect almost entirely the market’s view of growth potential without any serious consideration of actual value. Lockdown was extremely generous to Netflix’s subscriber numbers and this comedown was always inevitable. The risk for them now lies in an over correction, making them vulnerable to a hostile takeover.

Media Boy UK 21-04-2022 16:37
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Warner Bros. Discovery Expected To Shut Down CNN+

https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/cnn...ry-1235237913/

CNN to relaunch as TV Channel on Virgin?

Legendkiller2k 21-04-2022 21:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36119689)
Warner Bros. Discovery Expected To Shut Down CNN+

https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/cnn...ry-1235237913/

CNN to relaunch as TV Channel on Virgin?
So CNN+ was a roaring success then.

Legendkiller2k 22-04-2022 19:15
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Karma is starting to bite Netflix it seems. https://thestreamable.com/news/netfl...ShR5xvlRmA8zPE

muppetman11 23-04-2022 16:00
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No wonder Netflix is bleeding subscribers – it’s become the new cable

https://amp.theguardian.com/media/20...-the-new-cable

Dingbat 24-04-2022 22:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36119609)
I did, on the basis that the Netflix CEO said so and there appeared to be no reason to do so.

Also, I was looking at this question as converting from SVOD to AVOD, and I hadn’t considered having a mix of options. I was simply thinking that Netflix would never force subscribers to watch ads as many use Netflix and other streamers to avoid them (plus other reasons).

Given the financial/subscriber shock to Netflix, now seems the right time to consider a range of options to offer viewers.
Perhaps Netflix should seek to adopt the model of Channel 4.

TimeLord2018 26-04-2022 11:45
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Virgin Media stream launches tomorrow
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2022...tream-product/

cheekyangus 26-04-2022 12:40
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Virgin Media O2 helps streamers save with launch of new flexible entertainment service “Stream” that makes older TVs smarter

Press Release Source: https://news.virginmediao2.co.uk/vir...r-tvs-smarter/

Stream from Virgin Media brings together favourite entertainment subscriptions and free TV channels under one roof and at great value, underpinned by the company’s unparalleled connectivity
Customers can get 10% credit back every month on the subscriptions they add to Stream, plus fuss-free 30-day contracts mean customers can pick and mix to suit them
Disney+ launches on Virgin TV for the first time with Stream
Virgin Media O2 is today unmasking its new entertainment service, Stream from Virgin Media, offering customers a new way to bring together their favourite TV channels, video apps and streaming subscriptions all in one place and at great value, with a small plug and play box powered entirely by the company’s superior broadband.



Available from tomorrow, Stream seamlessly combines most-loved TV channels with on-demand apps, popular streaming subscriptions and must watch movies to offer customers a convenient and personalised entertainment experience that works for them.

New Stream benefits include:

Value – Any customer taking Stream can get 10% credit back on the subscriptions they add to Stream and will have the ability to convert older TV models into a voiced activated Smart TV
Flexibility – No long-term contracts – customers can change subscriptions every month
Choice – Stream brings together free-to-watch apps, free TV channels and subscriptions like Netflix and Prime Video
Convenience – All selected subscriptions, free apps and TV in one place and available on one bill so there’s no need to juggle multiple payments or direct debits
Personalisation – Stream offers personalised recommendations across subscriptions
At a time of almost endless entertainment choices, Stream has been built with flexibility, value and curation at its core to put viewers in control. Customers can enjoy Stream on a fuss-free 30-day rolling contract so they can add or remove subscriptions every month, with the ability to save on their streaming subscriptions when adding them to the service. From news channels to sport and kids TV, Stream provides a one-stop-shop so customers can easily select and swap the channels and streaming services that truly matter to them.

Disney+ is now available on Virgin TV for the first time through Stream, so customers can enjoy exclusive must-see originals, movies, series and documentaries from the worlds of Disney, Pixar, Marvel, Star Wars, National Geographic and general entertainment brand Star. The other must-have apps available on Stream include Netflix, Prime Video, BBC iPlayer, ITV Hub, Starzplay, BritBox and YouTube as well as live TV subscriptions including Sky Sports and BT Sport.

With Stream, customers won’t need to fork out for a new screen to upgrade their entertainment. Stream has been designed to convert any recent TV with a HDMI port into a voice-activated smart TV, helping customers save on the cost of upgrading their viewing experience. Powered by Virgin Media’s ultrafast and gigabit broadband, even busy households will be able to have the very best TV experience with Stream while also making the most of their connectivity to game, stream and work all at the same time around the home.

David Bouchier, Chief TV & Entertainment Officer at Virgin Media O2, said:

“At a time of endless entertainment choice and a strain on household budgets, we’re putting viewers first. Stream customers will only pay for the entertainment they choose and can pocket monthly savings on the content they add – it is a truly flexible and personal way to enjoy the entertainment that matters most, at great value. Stream is more than just a new TV service, it’s whole new way to enjoy connected entertainment. More than ever, content and connectivity go hand in hand and with Stream we’re delivering the best of both.”

At launch, Stream is available to both new and existing customers who take a Virgin Media broadband only or broadband and home phone package, offering a quick and easy entertainment add on that pairs perfectly with the company’s lightning-fast broadband – offering speeds up to 22x faster than the UK average.

Customers can add Stream for a one-off activation fee (£35), with no ongoing cost beyond the streaming services they choose to subscribe to. Stream also includes “Stream credit” offering customers a 10% saving on their subscriptions when they add them via their Virgin Media bill, giving them even better value on the entertainment they love and can’t live without.

Recent analysis carried out by researchers at MTM has shown that while video-on-demand (VOD) is commonly the first type of TV that consumers turn to when looking for something to watch, live TV is almost on a par – with 36% of UK consumers claiming to turn to linear first, vs 37% for VOD.

Similarly, when consumers were asked what TV services they “could not live without” the top three answers were Netflix, BBC and ITV – reinforcing that typical viewing habits nowadays are a blend of subscription, on-demand and traditional TV.

Additional MTM Group analysis from 3 Reasons Ltd has also shown that the TV set is increasingly the most popular way to view VOD programming, with 72% of programme streaming requests happening through the TV set, growing from 54% in 2016.

Stream offers enhanced features such as Voice Search and Control, Profiles and Watchlists so customers can cut through the chaos of what to watch and where to find it, diving straight into their favourite shows and movies in a matter of seconds no matter where the content is.

Whether at home or on the go, customers with Stream can manage their entertainment with ease across devices via the My Virgin Media app, simply using the app to add and remove TV subscriptions to suit their needs.

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There's a promo video on this VMO2 tweet.
https://twitter.com/VMO2News/status/1518901607198511104

cheekyangus 26-04-2022 15:46
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RXTV have a list of the Free and Paid add-ons available via Stream service.
https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/which-chan...n-media-stream

jfman 26-04-2022 16:36
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Essential entertainment £12
Kids £4
Sky Sports and cinema £46.25
BT Sport £18
Bog standard Netflix £7

£89.25

At least they’re preparing the those with an irrational aversion to linear television - or television as it was known up until 2005 - for the high cost streaming future.

muppetman11 26-04-2022 16:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36120174)
Essential entertainment £12
Kids £4
Sky Sports and cinema £46.25
BT Sport £18
Bog standard Netflix £7

£89.25

At least they’re preparing the those with an irrational aversion to linear television - or television as it was known up until 2005 - for the high cost streaming future.
At those prices I’ll stick with Now TV.

1701-e 26-04-2022 17:11
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1 Attachment(s)
Attached briefing sheet tells all

1andrew1 26-04-2022 17:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36120176)
At those prices I’ll stick with Now TV.
No Sky Atlantic, Premier Sports, CBS channels, Apple TV, Hayu and UKTV catch-up services.

But it does have the advantage over Now TV in that it includes the main Freeview channels so you don't need to toggle HDMI inputs or have an aerial.

OLD BOY 26-04-2022 17:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36120174)
Essential entertainment £12
Kids £4
Sky Sports and cinema £46.25
BT Sport £18
Bog standard Netflix £7

£89.25

At least they’re preparing the those with an irrational aversion to linear television - or television as it was known up until 2005 - for the high cost streaming future.
For me, it’s:

Channels:

Essential Entertainment: £12.00
Sky Cinema Pack: £14.99
_______
£26.99

Streamers: What I pay now, less 10%.

Suits my wife and me fine price-wise. I would keep the linears for her to watch via on demand watchlists, mainly because she’s not happy getting into the streamers (although it is probably easier under this system, if only more apps were available).

I think VM is on the right lines here, but needs improvement. More apps and multi-view should be considered for the future.

As for your ‘irrational aversion’ comment, ‘irrational’ it certainly isn’t, but we won’t go around that loop again.

jfman 26-04-2022 17:50
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It’s entirely irrational, dare I say perverse, OB that you’re willing to pay a price premium for inferior products simply because of the technology through which it is delivered.

1701-e 26-04-2022 17:52
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Will the Irish channels be available everywhere? Are they HD because they still aren't on TiVo V6?

lonespeaker 26-04-2022 18:00
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I see it includes access to Disney+, I wonder if we will see the Disney+ app on the 360 box from tomorrow...

johnathome 26-04-2022 18:36
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EDIT

Sorry just seen it's free with BB, not sure about existing customers who have a box but may want it for the spare tv.








So how much does this stream dongle itself cost?

Is it free if you take Ultrafast BB and what about existing customers?

Sorry if these have already been answered but I cansee the prices for the addon channels.

1701-e 26-04-2022 18:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 36120191)
EDIT

Sorry just seen it's free with BB, not sure about existing customers who have a box but may want it for the spare tv.








So how much does this stream dongle itself cost?

Is it free if you take Ultrafast BB and what about existing customers?

Sorry if these have already been answered but I cansee the prices for the addon channels.
I think it's marketed for BB only customers.

cheekyangus 26-04-2022 19:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 36120191)
EDIT

Sorry just seen it's free with BB, not sure about existing customers who have a box but may want it for the spare tv.

So how much does this stream dongle itself cost?

Is it free if you take Ultrafast BB and what about existing customers?

Sorry if these have already been answered but I cansee the prices for the addon channels.
The dongle is only yours for as long as you're a customer and it's £35 to activate as I understand it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36120192)
I think it's marketed for BB only customers.
Only for Broadband-only and Broadband And Phone (landline that is) at the moment.

jfman 26-04-2022 19:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36120193)
Only for Broadband-only and Broadband And Phone (landline that is) at the moment.
Surely a broadband and mobile customer counts as the former ;)

OLD BOY 26-04-2022 19:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36120184)
It’s entirely irrational, dare I say perverse, OB that you’re willing to pay a price premium for inferior products simply because of the technology through which it is delivered.
Er, except that it saves me money….

If it was not for my wife, I wouldn’t have any of those subscription linear channels, but I would take instead the Now TV Entertainment and Cinema packs, making it cheaper still.

As you know, my goal is to have the widest number of streamers with a wish list for all of them, on just one box. We are getting closer, but so far, no cigar.

jfman 26-04-2022 19:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120197)
Er, except that it saves me money….

If it was not for my wife, I wouldn’t have any of those subscription linear channels, but I would take instead the Now TV Entertainment and Cinema packs, making it cheaper still.

As you know, my goal is to have the widest number of streamers with a wish list for all of them, on just one box. We are getting closer, but so far, no cigar.
Precisely the sub-optimal viewing experience to which I alluded to earlier.

Both Virgin and Sky routinely have offers that would be cheaper for phone/broadband/general entertainment/movies plus Netflix.

“If it wasn’t for the wife” is a red herring.

Raider999 26-04-2022 21:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36120176)
At those prices I’ll stick with Now TV.

If only NowTV had recording, I am sure a lot of people would.

vincerooney 26-04-2022 22:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lonespeaker (Post 36120187)
I see it includes access to Disney+, I wonder if we will see the Disney+ app on the 360 box from tomorrow...
i was hoping it would also be on the tivo v6. But surely theyd be bragging about if it was going to the 360 or v6 box?

muppetman11 26-04-2022 22:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36120208)
If only NowTV had recording, I am sure a lot of people would.
Only watch sport live so not really to bothered about recording however I except many are.

Legendkiller2k 26-04-2022 23:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120197)
Er, except that it saves me money….

If it was not for my wife, I wouldn’t have any of those subscription linear channels, but I would take instead the Now TV Entertainment and Cinema packs, making it cheaper still.

As you know, my goal is to have the widest number of streamers with a wish list for all of them, on just one box. We are getting closer, but so far, no cigar.
There is one box that has them all including freeview a mini pc plus a usb tv tuner job done.

braysoj1 26-04-2022 23:39
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I’ve been testing out the box and for all the channel it is dear

Raider999 27-04-2022 09:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36120214)
Only watch sport live so not really to bothered about recording however I except many are.

I mainly watch sport, but everything is time shifted so recording is a must. Going to Rugby/Cricket on a Saturday means I would not be around to watch.

I suppose if NowTV was a proper streaming service with full coverage of matches available for say a week (as football/rugby on Prime is) that would suffice - however I believe it is just a method of watching live TV.

TimeLord2018 27-04-2022 11:34
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Viaplay to show Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish national team football in UK
Quote:
Viaplay to stream Scotland's, Wales' and Northern Ireland's European Qualifiers to the FIFA World Cup 2026 and UEFA EURO 2028, UEFA Nations League 2024/25 and 2026/27 and international friendlies exclusively in UK

Over 800 National Team Football matches from across Europe, including top-ranked teams such as Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Portugal and Spain shown exclusively on Viaplay

Viaplay to launch in UK in second half of 2022
Viaplay and UEFA have entered a four-year partnership in the UK for Viaplay to show at least 40 exclusive live matches featuring the Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish men's national football teams respectively. Starting in 2024, fans will be able to follow all European Qualifiers to the UEFA EURO and FIFA World Cup played by Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland exclusively on Viaplay, along with the UEFA Nations League and international friendlies, as part of a comprehensive package of over 800 exclusive international matches from across Europe.

The groundbreaking agreement consists of all matches played by UK national teams (not featuring the England National Team) in the European Qualifiers to the FIFA World Cup 2026 and UEFA EURO 2028 and in the UEFA Nations League 2024/25 and 2026/27; all matches in the UEFA Nations League Finals 2025 and 2027; as well as international friendlies. The comprehensive package also includes all matches in the above-mentioned competitions of all other European teams, including top-ranked teams such as Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Portugal and Spain.
https://www.nentgroup.com/news/news-...all-uk-2013340

jfman 27-04-2022 12:41
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More bad news for sports fans.

Itshim 27-04-2022 18:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120182)
For me, it’s:

Channels:

Essential Entertainment: £12.00
Sky Cinema Pack: £14.99
_______
£26.99

Streamers: What I pay now, less 10%.

Suits my wife and me fine price-wise. I would keep the linears for her to watch via on demand watchlists, mainly because she’s not happy getting into the streamers (although it is probably easier under this system, if only more apps were available).

I think VM is on the right lines here, but needs improvement. More apps and multi-view should be considered for the future.

As for your ‘irrational aversion’ comment, ‘irrational’ it certainly isn’t, but we won’t go around that loop again.
If I read the terms correctly and it was just very quick skip read. Seemed to say not with any existing virgin services. So if you have a V6 you can't have it. Having said that I m not interested . So those of you that look at these things closely , it that correct ?

nialli 27-04-2022 19:21
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It’s only available to broadband and broadband & phone customers from today. Personally, I’d get a Roku if you want streaming apps

Raider999 27-04-2022 20:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36120269)
More bad news for sports fans.
Agreed - don't always watch the Welsh, N Irish and Scottish games on Sky - but I do like the option of doing so (especially when the Scots lose) - however I am not prepared to pay a penny extra to watch on a streamer

Mad Max 27-04-2022 22:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36120312)
Agreed - don't always watch the Welsh, N Irish and Scottish games on Sky - but I do like the option of doing so (especially when the Scots lose) - however I am not prepared to pay a penny extra to watch on a streamer
Up yours as far as it can go.....:p:

Media Boy UK 02-05-2022 14:33
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Virgin Media Forum says that Disney+ has launch on Virgin Media Stream.

Coming soon to TV360.

braysoj1 02-05-2022 16:48
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Yh it on streaming boxed checked last night

OLD BOY 02-05-2022 17:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36120300)
If I read the terms correctly and it was just very quick skip read. Seemed to say not with any existing virgin services. So if you have a V6 you can't have it. Having said that I m not interested . So those of you that look at these things closely , it that correct ?
All it means is that you don’t need your V6, 360 or TiVo any more.You wouldn’t need your existing box if you took their streamer.

jfman 02-05-2022 17:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120806)
All it means is that you don’t need your V6, 360 or TiVo any more.You wouldn’t need your existing box if you took their streamer.
But you will need a streaming box :confused:

OLD BOY 02-05-2022 17:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36120808)
But you will need a streaming box :confused:
Indeed. The question was about a person with a V6 box, and that is what my answer related to.

Kinda obvious, really. ;)

jfman 02-05-2022 17:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120812)
Indeed. The question was about a person with a V6 box, and that is what my answer related to.

Kinda obvious, really. ;)
Swapping a recording box for a dumb box for the sole reason it's a streaming one is completely irrational.

OLD BOY 02-05-2022 17:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36120817)
Swapping a recording box for a dumb box for the sole reason it's a streaming one is completely irrational.
It depends on your viewing habits.


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