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Because then they would be directly opposing senators and there would be further retaliation from the republicans.

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Yet there is not a shred of evidence that a dead persons vote has been counted nor that multiple votes were either.

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Think you've taken a trip to conspiracy/qanon city. Trump lost, even Boris admits it. His grovelling congratulatory tweet won't get him a trade deal I'm afraid.

Mick's very quiet lately... Probably getting some well earned kip ;)

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Can you post that tweet please.

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You would assume the conspiracy to rig the election would be designed to not be caught. Besides if you have the Senate how can they retaliate?

As I said if there is evidence they should turn up with it in court but Trump doesn't get to make it a serious prospect just by saying it without providing evidence.

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Wait for the investigations and see what evidence is found.

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And if none is?

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Then it's case closed not case closed before anyone looks into it.

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lmfao....:D:D

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Always in denial l see papa...

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Looking for the truth,you should try it sometime.

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You would also assume people who vote for a democratic president would vote for a Democratic senator at leat in most cases.

If you want to maintain the pretense of a democracy you cannot rig things too obviously and not piss off too many people.

Anyway anomalies always exist, the question is if trump can prove it was significant.

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The truth is there in front of your eyes as its quite clear you just don't want to see it...

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https://twitter.com/oldpappythomas/s...855361026?s=21

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Sure but clearly in a few places people only voted for the top of the ticket (President) or split their vote which does happen in elections.

In other words there are clearly people who went out, voted Republican for everything but Trump.

Or there was no rigging. Trump lost the popular vote last time, he lost it this by a similar number, but the increase Biden did get was enough to overturn slim margins in key states.

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Trump not gonna be happy with Boris

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/sta...33262075940864

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the truth is you aren't even interested in the truth.

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Look I am telling you what is going to be argued. You believe what you want.

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I've just seen that tweet, nothing grovelling about it!

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Read between the lines old chap, and Bozza's Trump 'love in' ;)
The fact he made sure he got this in first, indicates how desperate we are. It'll have been drafted weeks ago, just in case it all went wrong.... The EU will have won some more fish tonight.

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I assume he's referring to this one.

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/sta...33262075940864

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Thank you, and again, as I said above, there isn't anything grovelling about it.

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Yeah what do you expect Johnson to do? This is normal behaviour.

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Interesting.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...r-emerges.html

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Yes it is well known Biden is pro Ireland. I'm not sure why the tories preferred him to win

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I'm not sure the Conservative, Labour or Liberal Democratic Parties would publicly express any preference on the candidates in an overseas election.

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Oh God, Dick Cheney is back

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Mick was @ work. Far too busy to listen to dire news about a corrupt Democrat party gaining the White House.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/elect...ZNHYIORAEAT5JM

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https://www.ayrshiredailynews.co.uk/...ntial-election

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...6&d=1604790282

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I wonder if Nigel will have to pay his own hotel bill now? (he’s in the USA as a "journalist’, but doesn’t say who for).


https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...8&d=1604794315

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You have got to be one sick idiot to think that’s funny :rolleyes::td::mad:

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I actually found it sad, so it's a reminder for me to always put context to things when I post them.

Trump has consistently downplayed the pandemic and its effects on America, and held events that had no attempt to comply with his own government's recommendations.

That it ended up impacting his supporters was not unexpected, but I thought that the Tweet showed just how much Trump didn't care about that at all.

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Humour comes in many forms. Sadly these days humour is lost against today's PC snowflakes. I find it more sad that people can't take a joke but instead they get offended and consider a joke as being serious and meaningful. To consider that someone has to be a sick idiot, well the joke's on you.

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Humour has no place in the new 'Populism'. It's even frowned on in CF ;)

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Expect it to be expensed to The Brexit Party Limited of 83 Victoria Street, London.

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Get with it Andrew its the "ReformUK' party now, the latest populist bandwagon. The word Brexit won't work well for them in future.

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Daily Telegraph

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/bre...-rally-4808902

“I have been sponsored by the Daily Telegraph just like any other journalist,”

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My post was aimed at the moron on twitter who found it funny,

Thanks for your insightful input. :rolleyes:

As for the joke being on me. well if you'd lost a loved one to Covid you might feel differently....... :td:

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You see the difference is now you think that I think it's funny to lose someone because of Covid. Totally missing the point and my point still stands.

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I found it funny that the Trump lawyers' press conference was (mis?)booked into outside space at Four Seasons Total Landscaping aka its car park and not the better known Four Seasons Hotel. :D
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...legal-22973642
https://twitter.com/_RichardHall/sta...19057201393667

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Americans will ‘never have faith in’ Joe Biden as president

Interesting take on the election.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZg_...zAs7USDZdk%3A6

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Over 75 million have faith in him; more votes tha anyone else has ever received for US President.

Granted its mostly faith that he isn't Donald Trump unless the Don is a master of disguise...
(as an aside does anyone the cartoon 'Undercover Elephant '?
https://hanna-barbera.fandom.com/wik...ant_(Character)
It was a private investigator elephant who was a master of disguise, the criminals was amazed when he revealed his tiny mask disguise at the end of each episode. It was the same joke every week but it was brilliant :D )

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But are they real votes that is the question the courts will have to ponder.

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"sponsored" ≠ "paid" or "expensed"... ;)

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The only person left pondering that is you.

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Don't think the Torygraph will be happy if Nigel's putting that £10k Trump bet on expenses...

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And several million Americans.

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I doubt it's even real.

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Of course they are real votes but obviously not according to the bible of papa.;)

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Some optimism on Biden's British support
https://news.sky.com/story/us-electi...biden-12124032

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Involving the courts is part of the election system and thus part of the democratic process,that's nothing to do with the "bible of papa" it's how it's done in the USA [ remember hanging chads] in the 2000 election.

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There weren't 4 million hanging chads...

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I somehow doubt this given the assets he has in the US. Looks like the Express is disowning Trump now.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...latest-news-vn

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He'd resign first then Pence will pardon him if that's the case.

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I know it sounds daft but, can he pardon himself?

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That's a grey area still, so debatable. Either ways it won't go down well.

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Does that remark have any relevance to the 2000 election result.

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Pardon me, ohh i've just done it ,i was feeling a bit guilty about all the toba er moving on;)

Where there's a will there's a way Andrew.

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Yes.

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GO on then explain the logic behind your comment.

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OK I am bored...

The 2000 election hung on a few hundred disputed votes in Florida. They had a daft punch card system and some presumably elderly voters hadn't fully punched them but the indents on the cards were there signifying their intention. The crooked ( ;) ) Republicans went to every length and court to stop these being counted.

Point is 2000 hung on a few hundred votes in 2020 millions of votes would need discarding.

(You were the one making a reference to 2000)

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Does the number of votes matter, if something improper has happened then surely it needs addressing,and that means the courts get involved.


Btw i wish bush had lost that election.

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Yes, numbers matter as do the legal reasons being filed

https://time.com/5908881/president-t...-trying-anyway

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I believe the term was “pregnant Chad”

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There is more than one
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad...y_punched_chad

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Business did very very well under trump. Couldn't stand the man but best trading in 70 years .
Looking at 4/8 leaner years, staff lay offs . Guess people need to be careful what they wish for.just hope I am wrong .however history tells me I am right. Just glad it's not my call this time.
Just incase anyone wonders voted for third party . Even if state is heavy GOP

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I suspect Iain Duncan Smith who infamously Tweeted "We don't need lectures on the Northern Ireland peace deal from Mr Biden." will be locked in the broom cupboard for a while. ;)

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What's in it for Pence, being President for a month? I think he has greater ambitions than that, so does donny actually and doing this will kill any political ambitions eituer of them have, just like it did for Gerald Ford

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There is no disappointment. Just wish Democrat’s knew how to win elections without cheating. But this. Ha, totally amusing this shit coming from you. Did you accept Brexit?

Do not take the piss by telling folk they have to accept these election results, Andrew when you and others totally failed to accept the Democratic result of Brexit/Trump!

I’m not going to accept or recognise Biden as president, I mean I think he is an appalling candidate anyway. Harris will be President in a few years anyway.

Where Trump failed on the Virus, Biden won’t be able to tackle Covid either. I mean hundreds of thousands poured on to the streets to celebrate his questionable victory, did Covid-19 disappear overnight?

Hypocrites, Biden is responsible for the worst crime bill that caused more incarcerations of blacks and he stood eulogising prominent race segregationists.

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Biden is now starting to add quite a bit of clearance from the recount threshold in Pennsylvania. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...nsylvania.html

He has also increased his lead in Georgia but that'll still go to a recount along with Wisconsin.

Arizona still not declared and likely to be close.

In the meantime, Biden's transition website is up and they're likely to start making appointments soon. Be interesting to see who he appoints. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...choices-433431

Sanders is an outside shot to be in there. Buttigieg will likely be as well as he was one of the most prolific and effective surrogates for Biden during the campaign and will likely be rewarded with a platform for a future nomination bid.

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Yes I did. Doesn't mean that I suddenly think it's a good idea or that BoJo's a good negotiator.
Trump can still win in 2024. The US likes old presidents at the moment so there's still hope. Just not for 2020. That train's already left the station.

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Also a lot of the investigations to Trump are at state level which the President cannot pardon apparently.

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Biden will be bad for the us in the long term .that's if he lives that long . He will talk the talk but the gop supporters will never get behind him,no matter what spin the media put on it. Trump is a idiot but great for the economy. covid did for him!

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I'm sure its going to be a blow to Joe that you won't recognise him as President Mick ;)

Must say it is rotten luck that anyone that runs against him turns out to be a corrupt cheat. Still he seems happier and less angry on the golf course so alls well that ends well. :)

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Statement by President George W. Bush

https://www.bushcenter.org/about-the...oe-biden.htmll

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George Bush has phoned to congratulate Biden and Harris and released a statement as well:

https://twitter.com/IsaacDovere/stat...89683506327554

Significant as it's the most high-profile Republican to recognise his victory.

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Amazing ... now Trump has made even G W Bush look like a world statesman.

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The next four years of American politics is probably going to be pretty, beautifully, boring.

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Being impeached, declaring there were “very fine people on both sides” after a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville and cosying up to Kim Jong Un didn't help matters either!

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Does not help when Democrats cheat either does it, when they invite a cemetery of dead people to vote for them. It’s even remarkable that people who’ve been dead over a decade, managed to register to vote and pick Biden.

But more bullshit from you I see, Trump was acquitted in the Senate. Trump has disavowed white supremacy groups. Biden invented a crime bill that caused more blacks to be incarcerated, your rage is where?

Clinton also went to North Korea (After his presidency), your rage is where?

It’s TDS all over again. Pathetic!

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Do you write Trump's tweets for him Mick? ;)

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Can I ask where this was, please?

If you mean this, it was found not to be true...

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I'm just saying all those things didn't help Trump. I'm not saying if I agreed with them or if they offended me. Please don't take this commentary too personally.

As to the Democrats - well, they've not lost the Presidency yet, it's early days, but I will be happy to provide my analysis when the do lose it.

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Nope, what a stupid question.

All this bollocks that Trump should concede, rubbish. If there are voting irregularities, that needs sorting by the courts, then so be it. Democrats have form for cheating. They are not to be trusted.

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I don’t think so, the first black, first woman president! Plus the fall out from this election.

Plus all the riots, there will be riots, and shootings.......well shootings linked to this.

No it won’t be boring, just more of the same.

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There seems to be a lot of resistance to investigating possible fraud,if there is nothing to find then why resist those who want to look, i doubt brushing an elephant under the carpet will go unnoticed for the next 4 years.

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You quote from the Democrat sponsors? the nyt?

Are you serious?

I do not trust a damn word said from that rag, the same disgusting rag that posted sensitive pictures of the dead from Manchester Arena bombing. **** newspaper. But that’s the Democrats all over, cheating *******s.

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May I present to you the anger out there from Trump’s side at the very obvious cheating from the corrupted Democrats. Biden asked for a chance last night in his speech apparently, asked for unity. I didn’t watch the clown. But he ain’t going to get it. Actor James Wood latest tweet:

Wtf should folk come together when the they wouldn’t accept Trump winning in 2016?

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Investigate by all means, but it won't go any further if there's no evidence.

Deep State/Qanon conspiracies or Purple Lizard men don't make for good evidence.

Trump is the only one who will be watching his back for investigations.

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They did accept it though.

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Here is the same case reporting by the Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/election-...43ebe66a29f7e8

You cannot go to court and assert something to be true without evidence. As the Judge in the same case says:



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Yes, exactly. By the courts.

Will you accept the election as legitimate if the courts find there isn't evidence of widespread voter fraud? That's the way these allegations should be handled. Get the evidence, go to court. I fully agree with that. No one (I hope) is against investigating fraud if it's there but it shouldn't be done via Trump's twitter feed or Twitter posts in general.

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And he's a Republican Judge, as that seems to be always the next thing discussed in any US case at the moment

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_E._Jones_III

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I also want to watch the part where the Democrats come knocking for people’s guns, I mean I believe in some form of controls, like we have here, but it’s far too late for a country that’s been allowed to carry them for over 200 years, over there, it will be a bloodbath if Biden even tries to introduce gun controls, lame duck Obama could not do it.

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Of course, there’s nothing stopping the Donald from running in 2024.

I mean the Republicans have the same issue as the Dems, no body to take over.

If Trump ran again, I wouldn’t bet against him getting the nomination.

He won’t.

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I think Trump would easily get the nomination. He has a very loyal following who are loyal to him rather than the Republican Party. They could easily carry him to the nomination, the only way it would be close is if 'establishment' Republicans unified behind a single candidate in the way the Democrats rallied around Biden over Sanders.

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No they did not Andrew, the very first thing their side bleated, right up to this election, was “Not my president.” - Trump’s side can now say the same about Biden.

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It'll take a little bit of time for the Don to come to terms with. But even his nearest and dearest are telling him to concede. Probably because they want to run next time and leave the stage gracefully...
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/08/polit...ion/index.html

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He wants to stop the importation of high capacity magazines, limit the number of guns you can buy to one a month and require background checks for all guns.

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Doesn't matter. Trump was the President and Biden will be too.

I can say 'Boris Johnson is not my Prime Minister' yet there he is in No 10 regardless.

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I wouldn't take too much from Melania urging him to concede, she's desperate for them to leave the White House but both will be going in different directions - Donald to the golf course, prison, Mexico (choose as appropriate) and Melania to the nearest divorce attorney.