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Why not Lords for a final? When did that change ? 50 over cricket is dying...

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Given the current situation Lords would have been cancelled anyway. Trent Bridge is a lovely ground and only 2 hours drive for us. There was a reason why it wasn’t at Lords but that escapes me atm.

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One thing that really pleases me is that both Lancashire and Kent are sticking with the squads that got them to the final, none of the first choice players who played in the Hundred abomination have been included.:cool:

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Lancashire stuff previously unbeaten County Champions Surrey by an innings and 130 runs in under 3 days, on the same day that Yorkshire teeter on the brink of relegation :cool:

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Dodgy OT wicket and weather I should think ;)

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Yep, that dodgy Lancashire scored 512 in their first innings.:p:

Old Trafford is generally accepted as one of the better, if not the best wicket in the country atm.

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Amazing, Liam Norwell takes 9 wickets in Hampshires 2nd innings to confirm Lancashire as runners up and relegate Yorkshire to the second division.:D

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Unfortunately my free access to Sky Sports is no more :(
However SA v Eng today, and I've found a lovely Pakistani site that streams it, quality just as good if not better than Sky, plus SA commetary which is better than the Sky bores. God bless those Pakistanis, Sky aren't ever going to get my dosh :) Just a shame Archer has forgotten how to bowl ....

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Archer has now remembered how to bowl !

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Lets hope he can stay fit..

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/...ip-bangladesh/

Seems to be the way now for tv rights, everybody waiting for the last minute for someone to blink....

Too many tours, too much T20 crap. The money men have ruined cricket , the market is saturated and over priced. Even our best players are turning these tours down now as they can earn more elsewhere. Can't blame the tv companies for looking the other way too.

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Not strictly English cricket but it looks like a heavily doctored wicket in India. Australia 177 AO on day one with spinners taking eight wickets.:rolleyes:

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Let's face it, every home test playing nation doctors the pitch to some extent to suit themselves. Lords is the only ground that refuses in England as they see themselves above that sort of thing..... ( pompous MCC farts!) Makes winning away all the greater achievement

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Looks like Sky have got the Bangladesh tour, but only because the ECB are paying them to broadcast it. The ECB will also stream it for free on their website. Desperate times trying to get tv companies to broadcast all this cricket...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/...will-streamed/

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Mind you I don't know why they won't pay, when Test matches end up going down to 1 run.....

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One helluva test match..

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Threw it away, bad decision to enforce the follow on with our older bowling attack and Roots shocking run out of Brooks.

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The ECB coverage of Bangladesh / England is much better than Sky. No adverts and free ! :)

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Good to see that lot on the wrong side of the Pennines are keeping up an outstanding level of consistency.:p:

Won: 1
Drawn: 9
Lost: 8
Abandoned: 1

Since beating Gloucestershire in their opening game of the 2022 County Championship, Yorkshire have gone 18 games without a red-ball win 😳

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l cannot say that surprises me given the ongoing turmoil at the club but best to make the most of it as sport has a habit of coming back and hitting us on the chin.

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Enjoying my second T20 in 3 days at Old Trafford. Lancs thrashed Leicestershire on Thursday and are giving Notts a few problems Lancs posted 208-4 then clean bowled Hales second ball for a duck . Notts currently 8-2 in 3rd over. Oh Lanky Lanky.:cool:

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Hope you enjoyed tonight's game. I've got a different version of that song ;)

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A big mistake to throw Buttler back in, he has only played 4 or 5 games for Lancashire in last couple of years and was out of form in the IPL. Still it was generous of us to let you win one at home for the first time in a few years.😊

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Nice for Yorkshire to get one over their rivals for once.:)

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England v Ireland has been competitive. A bit like Man City v Rochdale...

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This Bazball looks good but you will never win tests without a couple of 100's. Quick 30's and 40's are no use.

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Looking ominous as indeed we need somebody to score a hundred or more.

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Time will tell but the declaration today has me dumbfounded... Heads should roll if it backfires.

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Couldn’t believe it, just trying to be to bloody clever.:rolleyes:

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My partner and l were totally shocked by the declaration.

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England going to be around 100 runs short here. Just think how many they might have added in the last half hour on day 1.

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Too many players not turning 40s and 50s into hundreds Jim.

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And getting themselves out in the process.:rolleyes:

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Now we need England to whittle a few Aussie wickets quickly.

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I suspect rain is the best hope here.

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Australia are doddling through this currently.

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That rain better bloody stay away ;)

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Why?;)

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The 30 or 40 runs they could and should have scored when they declared will cost them this match.:rolleyes:

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They'll say they don't regret anything and care more about entertaining than winning.

Bazball might work against crap teams but against the best team in the world, you need to adapt your tactics if needed.

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Stokes has made some very costly decisions in this test.

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Including keeping Root on when a new ball was,available.

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l found that decision pretty staggering.

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Test cricket needs more support and closely won matches with lots of excitement give that. One team dominating (winning the game in fewer than 5 days), slow slogs and draws just push more people to short formats.
Still it is only a game and you can't win them all. Mistakes get made and hopefully learnt from.

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Tell it to the Aussies they are more interested in boring winning. So old fashioned....

Entertaining losing is the name of the name of the game these days, they'll catch up eventually...

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The questionable decisions in the 1st test have cost us the Ashes.

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England have gone from brilliant to brainless in six overs. Only a no ball saved them from being in deep s**t.

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Sooooo, Duckett out or not out?

Not out for me.:)

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Same here.

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Mind you he should have retired after playing such an awful shot.:rolleyes:

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Getting tasty now.

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l have never heard Lords boo like that before.

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that is ashes done just hope we don’t lose 5-0

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Too many weak links in our squad allied with inflexibility in our overall tactical plans.

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Missed this afternoon, sunning myself on a remote Welsh beach with no reception. The Aussies want to win, we just want to be nice. Stuff the Ashes, think I prefer nice. They never get them anyway, they stay safely locked away at Lords. :)

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1st thrown away on first day with that mindless declaration.

2nd test thrown away when England went from 181 for 1 to 220 odd for 4 in the space of 5 or 6 overs of brain dead batting from Pope, Duckett and Root.:mad:

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Major League Cricket - USA 20/20 cricket (currently on BT), live from a baseball ground in Texas. The locals don't sound that excited, just confused....

Should have have given them some Test Matches, much more exciting!

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Ashes lost to the Lancastrian rain.... Ban all Old Trafford tests now !

Tbh they were lost on the first day with that fecking stupid declaration.

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Yes l agree it was a poor decision but one does not expect to lose 150 overs in mid July.

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I actually agree with this, two whole tests have been lost there due to rain, two whole test matches, shouldn't happen again and the Australians couldn't complain if they were 4-0 or 3-1 down, never known a team to get so much luck

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Bollocks.....The Ashes have not been won entirely due to an absolutely stupid declaration in the 1st test and brain dead batting to go from 181 for 1 to 208 for 4 in the space of 5 overs in the 2nd test.

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It is bollocks you're right, two entire test matches lost without a ball being bowled and countless other days being lost, if the Australians can call for Sydney to lose its test status due to weather we can do the same for Old Trafford, it wouldn't be the first time tests weren't played there

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Neither Old Trafford or Headingley are getting a Test for the next Ashes. Why London always gets 2 Tests is a mystery....

Personally I think Colwyn Bay's time has come. Lovely ground and it never rains ;)

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Didn’t see that coming, Stuart Broad to retire after this series.:shocked:

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A man of considerable character, he didn't want to make this test all about him but will hopefully get the send off he deserves tomorrow and whilst I didn't see it coming either it actually makes perfect sense to me now I've thought about it

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He will now get more time to run his pub as he will go down as one of Englands true bowling greats..

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I suspect the offer of a lucrative tv commentating/pundit role, will have more to do with it. You don't make money running pubs these days. He had a another couple of years at least, but guess he's got to look to the future.

As for Anderson who is 4 years older, admire his spirit but if he tours India I'd be amazed.

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Bloody southern grounds, rained off again.:rolleyes:

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Might be just aswell for England.

Never mind the Gaelic Football Cup final is live on BBC2. 82,500 watching , slightly more than the Oval. Seems more entertaining too. Just need to work out the rules , they seem to have goals and rugby posts.....

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Aussies are 22/5 with the bookies.
I'm tempted!
https://www.oddschecker.com/cricket/...stralia/winner
*************

Actually, it seems to be one bookie who doesn't now seem to be honouring those odds. Damn ...

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I've really tried with 'The Hundred', but it's appalling. Everything cricket shouldn't be, with teams sponsored by fast food snacks, the English monsoon season started and the footy season about to start. Doomed to fail.

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I have watched a few minutes here and there as I did last year, totally unimpressed. They even had a 40 ball whack a mole match a few days ago. I hate it with a vengeance.

The 50 over One Day Cup has not been much better, partly due to the weather.

Typical of those tight fisted money grabbing Yorkshire oafs. The Yorkshire v Lancashire 50 over game at Scarborough was called off. Even though it wasn’t raining for most of the day. Due to inadequate covers the overnight rain had ruined the wicket.

The Scarborough cricket club website stated that a full refund would be given if no play was possible. The Yorkshire County Cricket Club have said that under their conditions no refunds would be given, only a voucher for another game at Scarborough. Not much use for the large number of Lancashire supporters who had paid to attend.

Since then the Scarborough club website has been altered to read the same as the Yorkshire CCC terms and conditions. :rolleyes:

What a complete shambles of a county, it’s no wonder they are in such a mess on and off the field.

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Why is Yorkshirman Bairstow, playing for the Welsh Fire against Northetn Superchargers at Headingley? Does he have an Aunt from Merthyr Tydfil?

Hate franchise 'cricket' (and the Hundred) it's utterly meaningless, the teams have no identity, and it all looks awfully manufactured.The crowd look thoroughly bored and cold...

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When what is basically the strongest county Surrey finished next to bottom of their group in the 50 over one day cup and another strong country Lancashire qualified for the play offs by the skin of their teeth it just shows what a mess cricket is in.

I dislike the 16.4 Whack-a-mole (Hundred) competition intensely. Surrey lost 12 first choice, first team players and Lancashire 8 to the 16.4 format franchises.

Which idiot decided to have the long established 50 over one day competition at the exact same time as the 16.4 slogfest?

There appear to be bigger, more varied crowds attending the 16.4 but how many of them have been given reduced price or even free tickets.

The ECB seems determined to continue supporting this folly even though it is costing them dearly to support it and as no other cricket playing country is playing 16.4 one can only hope it dies a swift and painful death.:mad:

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Yes, no other country has taken this crap format up.
I think the ECB are still stung from creating 20/20 but forgetting to copyright it! They were hoping make up for it by selling this panto format to others.

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Might as well give the World Cup to India now. Their spin bowlers are unplayable on their own pitches.

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Doctored pitches methinks.;)

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And why not? Nothing more than we do tbh, hence why we hosted the last World Cup and won.

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Shocking performance from England, well played Afghanistan.

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Best team won, they gave a toss ( even though they lost the toss!)

Eng players are overpaid complacent and lazy. I blame T20, ECB, IPL and Sky's money. By the time we pick Stokes we'll be out of the World Cup.

Wonder how Afghanistans wages compare to England?

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I wonder how thats relevant ?

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I suppose Mr K is pointing out the huge discrepancy between performance and remuneration. :)

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It's very relevant. An ECB central contract is worth up to a million a year. Afghanistan's players get £5k tops.

Even then ours often can't be bothered to turn out if they get a better T20 tournament offer elsewhere.

Things have gone very wrong with English cricket and its down to money.

National pride won over money today. That's a good result in a way.

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:tu:

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South Africa going Dutch.:shocked::D Possibly even worse than England’s woeful effort so far.

Amazing, Holland 50 for 4 then 80 for 5 at one stage.

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Didn’t think England could play any worse, sadly I was wrong.:rolleyes:
An absolute shambles of a team.:mad:

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A cosy complacent cliche.

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Or even a clique.:D

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Old age you see.;)

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Bottom of the WC table now...
Sack the captain and coach. Terminate all one day international contracts and start again next season. See who actually want to play and give their all for their country. (Stokes seems to have mostly had his shades on and feet up for the last month.. ).

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That run out of Rashid sums up England perfectly. Brainless, lazy, and incompetent. :mad:

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Heads should roll and that includes some players as well.:(

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Unbelievably they've just given lot of this mob new multi year contracts (scared they'll bugger off to T20 frachises).
Let them go and start again with younger players.
TV money has ruined cricket.

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I blame it all on that bloody Gillette Cup, 60 over cricket what were they thinking of.:rolleyes:

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The Gillete was good value a long day, imagine them bowling 120 overs a day now !

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Highlight of the World Cup today , an SL getting 'timed out'. : D
About time they took some action over subs, drinks, gloves, lipstick, bookmakers instructions, going back and fore each over, the games boring enough as it is !

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Well as a neutral I enjoyed that game, very spicy. :D

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Not much consolation given England’s woeful performances but it’s still enjoyable to see the Aussies in a mess against Afghanistan.:D

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Afghanistans poor catching is going cost them dearly, dropped a dolly off Maxwell on 35ish.

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Aussies got lucky. But again I suspect bookmakers. Cynical moi? ;)

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We beat the Dutch at cricket, nothing can stop us now ! ;)