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Trying to watch the Spain game, is it just me or is there no picture on BBC4HD, BBC4 SD is okay?
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Try an reboot at half time. Our box did it last week with Sky Sports Arena. |
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Not really coming soon news as its already happened, but I noticed last night (when flicking) that the picture on Bloomberg looked very good (nice and sharp) like it was HD:). Sky have carried the HD version for a few months now and it seems Virgin do aswell now as this morning the channel logo on the epg has changed to Bloomberg TV HD (still labelled as 'Bloomberg' on Tivo and V6 but as 'Bloomberg HD' on other boxes, maybe due to character limit).
I wonder if this indicates that they might be the latest channel to go HD only and that Virgin have had to take the HD feed to keep carrying the channel. |
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The problem is that the East Midlands local news (and I suspect other regions too) is not shown on BBC1 HD
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A lot of the older machines are still functional though, right? I mean aside from the digital transfer, they should still work, no? The problem is that we have gone from CRT's to 8K in like the space of 15 to 16 years and while older systems are effectively obsolete, the rate of upgrades is ridiculous and I swear it puts people off as a new advancement in technology is available like every 6 months. The refresh rate works as a deterrent for larger household appliances IMO. |
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Some won't touch HD no matter what whether its with Virgin , Sky or any other platform as my estimate of those without HD is well into the millions. https://www.barb.co.uk/tv-landscape-...y-tv-platform/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/...great-britain/ |
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Some people still watch in black and white to save on the license fee!
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And yeah even though the platforms are still SD production, the providers refuse to give any more SD coverage so all new boxes / set tops / satellites are all in HD only and with some like Sky 4K only. Not sure about BT but Sky or Virgin should start investing in hardware manufacturers. If they get a say in what TVs even come off the manufacturing line (what definition) they should have a better idea of what to set as the lowest definition on their boxes...(per the market availability of older software / spec TVs). |
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Hmmm, seems fair - or at least at the time.
These days though (in comparison) HD seems cheap, no? The average cost of a (big back) TV back then (pre HD) was about the same as an HD TV now is, in the era of UHD / 4K. Soon enough HD TVs will have pretty antiquated software, so people may as well get them as cheap as they are now. It is kind of like what people do with Apple...get the model before last as the newest one hits stratospheric levels of cost and technology. |
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On a serious note though, can they not take the HD feed and downscale it to SD? Would this save some bandwidth on the network too? I'm not sure. |
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Does the TIVO do this as well? If that's the case then there's really no need for the duplication. |
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As someone said in the earlier post, I too am sure the cost of filming/broadcasting in HD is significantly lower than it was 5/6 years ago. I guess for the smaller channels it still doesn't make sense to put a lot of money into HD if their audience is small too. |
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. . . Except as I have already stated many of us like the local news not available on the HD versions of BBC1 and, I think, ITV1
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This may sound silly, but in the case of channels that simulcast in both SD and HD, then why do the broadcasters and providers show both? Surely it makes sense just to broadcast the HD only version of a particular channel and so the the viewers TV or box will show a downgraded SD version of the same picture to viewers without an HD subscription or equipment on the same channel number, and also freeing up space? and so obviously HD viewers will receive the full HD variant also on the same channel number....?
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While broadcasters still show both, providers like Sky / BT (unsure about VM) all charge a standalone fee for HD (10 a month or something as I understand it) but without an option for SD that charge may go away which is good but in HD format will it still air well without warp / pixelation on a 10 only capable of SD / 720 calibration? Short of a run on sales of TVs, removing Standard definition of what is already filmed in HD might be a good idea for providers and manufacturers alike but cable and satellite providers may lost the ability to charge for it as a base benchmark rate.
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I also used to occasionally use a wireless video sender via the SCART on the Tivo which downscaled nicely. These aren't/weren't regularly used scenarios but if I wasn't in a position to watch any HD I'd be fine with them until I was in a position to buy new equipment which was able to display it as intended. |
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Yes, NHK World HD is a good example, it downscales to a decent looking SD picture on my 2nd TV in the bedroom which is an old but otherwise perfect CRT 21", as do all the other HD channels. So then. just why do they broadcast both?? Proves my point that non HD subscribers will receive a downscaled version of the same HD output on the same channel number. Very odd.
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I like HD. I prefer HD. But i won't purposely hunt things down in HD as i'm not that focused up on watching Gary Sparrow or Gary Lineker in HD blasting at me as the content is still the same. As someone who has a HD only tv i'm not that fussed at speeding up towards UHD or XHD or XXHD which will come after it. The product doesn't change. Do we need to see Lineker sweat a bit more or have the skin on his face show up more clear? Nah we don't. We really don't. There is a youtube video of tv manufacturers discussing how to get people to buy more tvs now we've hit HD. They mention UHD. It appears a large majority of this forum have fallen for the need to buy new merchandise hook, line and sinker. |
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I suspect the HD charge will be absorbed into the standard charge should SD come to an end.
If you think it will mean a reduction you are having a larfff as they say |
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Many people on their small TV screens say they can see no difference in PQ. If HD was the only option, they would use that option. The only real problem is with people who do not have HD TVs, and whilst I think that in the broader population there are still many viewers without an HDTV, there will be a much smaller proportion of VM viewers in that position. Most non-HD people I think are those who are not prepared to pay for their TV channels. ---------- Post added at 20:15 ---------- Previous post was at 20:12 ---------- Quote:
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Does anyone (VM / BT / Sky etc) even sell them? To new customers I know that it is pretty much a no go but I suppose some people still have old SD boxes, but are those even supported? I will probably never get Q so I wonder how long support for the HD boxes on Sky will even be. I know you can't purchase them anymore as a new customer. Also I assume at some point that 4K will become the only format of streaming available, too - that does not require a change in hardware to buy the product but I assume that they will bake the cost into the subscription price rather than lower it for lower resolution formats. Though most portable devices (laptops / tablets / phones etc) are not at 4K quality yet, are they? |
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The BBC Red Button channels (2 to 6) was broadcasting in Media Boy HQ for about two hours last night.
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We can confirm that anyone with V Boxes has lost Bloomberg on their box. UPDATE: The onscreen logo on TiVo Boxes has been updated. |
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There is a possibility that Virgin Media might be getting Paramount Network after all, unless Virgin Media has made a mistake... they have added a folder for Paramount to Virgin TV Go: https://virgintvgo.virginmedia.com/e...amount-tv.html
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TiVo listing are still showing EPG for both +1 channels as of June 27th for after July 4th. The last Viacom deal with Virgin Media was signs in Summer 2016. https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...-new.html#more https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...gin-media.html ---------- Post added at 23:07 ---------- Previous post was at 21:40 ---------- Rugby AM (An show on Freesports) has posted on Twitter that FreeSports UK will launch on Virgin Media from late July. Story thanks to Rugby AM, Twitter, Digital Spy Forum and omnidirectional https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...-channels/p134 https://twitter.com/RugbyAM?ref_src=...hannels%2Fp134 |
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JJ20X is reporting on DS Forum that France 24 English HD has been added to Virgin UK Channel 624.
For France 24 English HD to launch Virgin Media UK has drop France 24 (English) to launch. |
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All the Red Buttons are now on VirginMedia from 990 to 996.
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I guess it depends on your TV (size and model will have a difference) which I would say you have a decent TV is SD is watchable...but if you are paying VM hundreds of pounds a year for the privilege of having HD channels on your subscription, why would you not watch your favourite shows on them?...I know not all channels have HD variant, but those that do, I always make sure I watch or record using them. Plus the V6 now has an update reminding customers of the HD variant and with the click of the blue button it will take you there. Is that also a sign that SD's days are nearly up? |
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Virgin Media Ireland has confirmed that TV3, 3e and be3 will be rebranded as Virgin Media One, Virgin Media Two and Virgin Media Three from August 30th.
Virgin Media Ireland will also launch an new channel called Virgin Media Sport. http://www.tv3.ie/xpose/article/news...dia-Television |
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Virgin Kids (Channel 700) has confrim that Cartoon Network +1 will be rebrand as Ben 10 starting July 1st*.
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All World Cup final 16 fixtures information are base on TiVo and ITV. June 30th: -France VS Argentina - FIFA World Cup 2018 Round of 16 - KO: 3pm - BBC One, ITV, UTV and STV* -Uruguay VS Portugal - FIFA World Cup 2018 Round of 16 - KO: 7pm - ITV, UTV and STV July 1st: -Spain VS Russia - FIFA World Cup 2018 Round of 16 - KO: 3pm - BBC One, ITV, UTV and STV* -Croatia VS Denmark - FIFA World Cup 2018 Round of 16 - KO: 7pm - BBC One July 2nd: -Brazil VS Mexico - FIFA World Cup 2018 Round of 16 - KO: 3pm - TBC* -Belgium VS Japan - FIFA World Cup 2018 Round of 16 - KO: 7pm - ITV, UTV and STV July 3rd: -Sweden VS Switzerland - FIFA World Cup 2018 Round of 16 - KO: 3pm - BBC One -Colombia VS England - FIFA World Cup 2018 Round of 16 - KO: 7pm - ITV, UTV and STV *Broadcaster still to be confirmed. |
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Matches have all been selected but schedules for these have not been released yet - so no details of replacement programmes where football will NOT be shown:
Saturday 15:00: France v Argentina - BBC Saturday 19:00: Uruguay v Portugal - ITV Sunday 15:00: Spain v Russia - BBC Sunday 19:00: Croatia v Denmark - ITV Monday 15:00: Brazil v Mexico - ITV Monday 19:00: Belgium v Japan - BBC Tuesday 15:00: Sweden v Switzerland - BBC Tuesday 19:00: England v Colombia - ITV -- Quote:
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Going forward it may be worth a going soon thread , it will be interesting to see whether Virgin has any spats at carriage renewals.
Sky has already had a difficult one with Discovery and it looks like the same in Germany were it's removing pay channels. https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2018...y-tv-channels/ |
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... that story is interesting and may signal how things go here with each platform only carrying its own channels and services. It will likely go that way in America too, once all the mega media mergers are done.
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Paramount Network will be on 220 so that's one that is actually "coming soon" https://www-prelive.channel5.com/paramountnetwork/
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I wonder what has been allocated the vacant slots on 217, 218 and 219. |
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We do still have Sky Atlantic, hopefully AMC and some new sports channels to look forward to over the next year or so, but other than that, any new pay tv channels are likely to be lacklustre at most. I would love to be proved wrong, however...:o: |
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For example, I have always been told that you can't tell UHD / 4K quality unless it is on a big machine but I never realized that it warps / distorts as it gets smaller. I just thought that you can't tell the superior quality, is all... |
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Rugby AM tweeting that Freesports will be on Virgin Media from end of July, so looking pretty likely now.
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At renewal broadcasters can expect difficult negotiations with Sky in my opinion , let’s be honest many of the pay channels don’t pull many viewers in. I can see Virgin being equally as selective at reneweal time. |
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I've often wondered just how many people subscribe to sky and virgin simply to get sky sports and or BT sports? I know you can get sky sports through Now TV but not good value I don't think. I for one would love to just subscribe to sky sports and BT sports at the price I pay now but alas I guess that will never happen,or will it?
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I'm one of those ppl who subscribe to Virgin just to get Sky sports and BT sport for the football.
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NowTV is owned by Sky and always has been. Or do you mean a merging of the brands? |
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If Paramount Network is set to launch on Channel 220 (Not even testing as far as we know) why did Virgin not put it beside all other Viacom Channels 187 and 188? Media Boy HQ think we may see an Viacom channel (One of the following channels: Comedy Central +1, BET, 5 USA +1, 5STAR +1, MTV MUSIC, MTV Live HD, VH1 or Nickelodeon +1) for Paramount Network to launch on Wednesday. Unless Virgin Media UK are set to move BBC 4 HD to channel 187 or 188 in early 2019 in Scotland. What is set to launch on Channels 217, 218 and 219? Pick from any of the following: •Lifetime +1 •Sony Crime Channel +1 •Sony Crime Channel 2 •TruTV +1 •True Entertainment +1 •Quest Red +1 •E! HD •Comedy Central Extra +1 •Pick +1 •Sky Atlantic •Sky Atlantic HD •Sky Atlantic +1 •Sky One +1 •S4C HD •GOLD HD •5Spike +1 •MTV +1 JJ20X has pick up tests for up to three HD Channels - that time of posted only one channel is testing called "Internal P". Take a pick from any of the following HD Channels: •Crime + Investigation HD •HISTORY HD •Al Jazeera English HD •BoxNation HD •Disney Channel HD •Disney Junior HD •Disney XD HD •FreeSports HD •LFCTV HD •MUTV HD •Sony Entertainment Television HD •Sony Max HD •E! HD •Nick Jr. HD •Premier Sports HD (Launches this summer) •Premier Sports 2 HD (Launches this summer) •Racing UK HD •S4C HD •Star Gold HD •Star Plus HD •Boomerang HD •CNN International HD •GOLD HD •Colours HD •&TV HD •Zee Cinema HD •Zee TV HD Media Boy HQ are thinking they will be for Freesports HD, Premier Sports HD and Premier Sports 2 HD. |
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What I mean by this is people are showing a greater appetite for lower costing packages ie (Now TV entertainment) going forward I can see Sky dwindling it’s third party pay channels in favour of offering its own content included with access to free to air channels and select competitors On Demand offerings. |
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So after World Cup is virgin going back to sweet fa in the UHD stakes
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The Radio Times website has Paramount Network being on channel 220 for VM. Not yet appearing on V6 Tivo.
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Part of it being available is the EPG being set up, available and supplied. Who does that for VM? Is that the hold up?
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We did get an new channel launch today.
XXX Brits has launch on Virgin UK Channel 979. Virgin Media UK was broadcasting it for FREE for about five mins before going paywall. ---------- Post added at 14:43 ---------- Previous post was at 13:29 ---------- What are up with Broadcasters letting the cat of the bag and revealing the information about launching on Virgin Media before signing an deal with them. Viacom is just one of the list of channels who says they will be on Virgin Media UK from launch but did not appear. 1) TruTV 2) FreeSports 3) Paramount Network If we have miss anymore do tell us... |
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(we are talking about the page that says Paramount Network is on Channel 220) |
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https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/tv-listings/ Click on the "i" below Paramount Network in the listings. |
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Channel number was not listed in next weeks Radio Times book. |
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Is anyone really that bothered about Paramount Network in SD.
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It looks as though the launch on Virgin of the Paramount channel may simply be delayed, but this article is a little vague on what has happened. Maybe a technical issue in the rush to launch.
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I wish HD was backwards compatible, so no need for a HD channel, it will just downgrade to SD.
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Can we please stop discussing That's TV here. There is already a thread for this topic.
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BT Sport 4K launching on 30 July as part of new multi-year deal:
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Good news :tu: although whether it will be at no extra cost remains to be seen...
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Excellent addition!
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http://www.virginmedia.com/content/v...in-4k-uhd.html "BT Sport 4K UHD will be included in Virgin TV Full House and VIP bundles, while Virgin TV customers already taking BT Sport will get the channel automatically added at no extra cost. " |
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You have heard of price rises by stealth SP?. |
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