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A good plan, and I agree with it. We wouldn't get a straight answer though, so a little pointless asking the question. The EU, don't want the UK to leave and they are being aided in their plan by prominent, outspoken remainers.


How anyone would want any part of any UK institutions to be subject to ECJ rulings (which has been mentioned here, with a sense of delight about it), is totally beyond my comprehension.

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I thought this was a family friendy forum? :)

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It is. That is a mild term, and I have been saying the word 'bollocks' for ages.

What still cannot be said is covered in the swear filter. (And no this is not an invitation to to see which swear words are in it) ;)

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Might need to whisper quietly though that being in these organisations won't be free. At the moment this is covered by our membership fees...

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so not free now then .

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Lol Mick, careful on the phrasing, you might find people like me agreeing with the second half of your sentence! :D

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I also have to totally agree with Mick on this one, never has he spoken truer. Its good to agree sometimes ;)

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Crikey are you alright this morning Mr K.;)

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Nothing's free to a net contributor... ;)

Of course most EU nations aren't in that category and only the Germans pay more for the honour of being part of the club.

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yes there seems to be a lot of talk involving free this and free that but £billions isn't my idea of free :nono:

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Mick said he has been talking bollocks so he must be right :)

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saying the word and talking it are two different things but saying that there are some experts at talking it coming out of the woodwork ;)

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You complain about the puerile level of debate and you even wrote a list of guidelines for us and then you participate in this kind of cheapshot. :rolleyes:

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It's lovely and sunny, time to have a laugh and enjoy what life offers up.

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Where's your sense of humour on this sunny day? :)

BTW, when are you signing up then?

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Jeez, another sense of humour failure. Look on the bright side, you no longer need to be blue and Belgian any more ..

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Once a Remoaner, always a remoaner. Moan, moan, moan, moany mcRemoanface.
Sense of remoaning humour restored. Have a nice day :).

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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

ha ha haaa now that's funny :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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are eu joking?


Gina Miller set to RETURN with new Remain campaign to block a hard Brexit

CHIEF Remoaner Gina Miller is preparing to front a new centrist campaign in another bid to frustrate Brexit and tie Britain to the bloc.

set to publicly launch new company ‘UK-EU Open Policy Limited’ as she plans to campaign against the Prime Minister’s Brexit plans.


if you don't like the source don't read it :rolleyes:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/789...-supreme-court

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Democracy must be really annoying for the wealthy, whats the point of being rich and not being able to tell the peasants what to do eh?

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i'm sure democracy was never meant to take control of the peasants away from the rich ,it's obvious it needs sorting by super woman. once the peasants are back under the boot things can progress how she wants them to .

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And I thought her previous stance was purely about the Law! Wow she really fooled me! Any other innocent Brexiteer fooled as well? Thought Not! ;):D

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Thank you. I am having a nice day, kind to ask :)

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Lord Mandelson tells EU to ‘forget’ UK Brexit negotiations

The former EU Commissioner, who is set to receive a £35,000 annual pension from Brussels, told German newspaper Zeit: “Basically one can only advise the Europeans one thing – forget Great Britain and take care of your own interests.”


nice to see the little traitor hasn't changed


He went on to argue that the “British government is entering the negotiations with the wrong basic attitude” and that its views on trade with the EU are “naive” and “ignorant”.

Gisela Stuart MP, chairwoman of pro-Brexit group Change Britain, said: “It’s deeply disappointing that he’s putting his generous EU pension and interests before the needs of the British public. I am beginning to wonder, whose side is he on?”

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...rexit-comments

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See the standard of name calling and personal insults has degenerated. Predictable as ever CF!

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2...-policy-agenda

This is my main fear for Brexit. Govt. Departments are so fixated on it there's no time for anything else. And for what? A massive bill from the EU ! We might get our sovereignty ( we never actually lost it!) but end up with a collapsed NHS and increased poverty as such issues are 'put aside' for years. Personally I'd rather have the Health Service, a properly funded education system and my kids with prospects of housing in the future than be waving my Union Jack.

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Don't they just love to look after themselves on the lavish EU gravy train. Mandelson is just another in a long list of self serving Labour hypocrites.

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Rather liked this in my redtop today:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...8&d=1491820311

Link to commentary

Note the knife block. :D

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Aaron Banks is quite enjoying democracy. And I wouldn't call the current millionaire-encrusted UK government peasants.

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he should change his name to maneltraitor the backstabbing leach

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Indeed and it's increasing costs and reducing efficiency. According to today's FT, "hundreds of government contracts with the private sector that were due to expire are to be automatically extended because civil servants are too busy with Brexit to focus on new and better-value tenders."
https://www.ft.com/content/fa80d526-...6-12672483791a or google "UK outsourcing deals extended because of Brexit workload"

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'They’re FAILURES!' Tory MP DESTROYS Remoaners in furious anti-Mandelson rant

SIR Bill Cash tore into arch Remainers who are campaigning to keep Britain inside the European Union during a furious pro-Brexit rant
The prominent Brexiteer described the likes of Tony Blair and Peter Mandelson as “political failures”, urging Britons not to listen to their pro-European ramblings.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...ro-Brexit-rant



interesting take on things

Banning unskilled migrants 'will NOT damage economy' as unemployed Britons 'can fill jobs'
just click the link no googling required

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/790...rits-fill-jobs

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Really? the jobs unskilled migrants are doing many Brits can't be a**sed to do e.g cleaners, the care industry, and harvesting crops. I'm afraid many non-working Brits are more interested in what benefits they can claim, sad, but true. Plus we're an ageing population, we need young energetic people, and we can't source enough of them in this country.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/brexit...edium=referral

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its folks like you that have condemned an entire generation to life on the dole ,you would rather give jobs to foreigners because you have given up on your own countrymen/women ,you should hang your head in shame .

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Just to correct you on something. Working in the Healthcare industry does require skills, it's not a job anybody can just walk in to and do or take up and it does require certain qualifications.

Unskilled migrants where I live don't work, I have at least three households in close proximity to my house with migrants and I know for sure they don't work, one of the houses has about 20 migrants living in it.

It's all well and good keep saying let them in, where are we suppose to house all these extra migrants?

I know, let's have a few stay with you Mr K.

With a chronic housing shortage, I think you forget, we are a small Island with limited resources for the current population already living here. School places, hospitals, we cannot just keep letting in infinite numbers in Mr K and then there is issues of Integration, just look at Sweden, big problems there and yes it has just had a Terrorist attack by a failed asylum seeker.

Benefit scrounging Britain's who are capable of working, but won't is a different topic.

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That's it! Lets cancel Brexit! Causing way too much disruption. Why were we being so stupid in voting for Brexit!


Who cares that we are being sucked into a Federal states of Europe, who will decide our immigration policy, our taxes, and an increasing number of our laws. The intelligent people have already told us that we've been deceived, and we still really do have Sovereignty. Short term gain is so much more important.


The FT is a supporter of Independent Nation states, and not a paper with a globalist agenda that hates Brexit. I really must remember that.


Thanks Andrew, you have shown me the error of my thinking

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You almost caused me to spill my coffee until I realised you were joking. :D

Migrants who can't support themselves can and should be sent back home. If the British authorities won't do it then they're negligent. The legislation exists.
Infrastructure can be built. There's not a finite number of schools and hospitals that any one country can have.
Sweden was going to deport the bomber so I can't see that its immigration policy was at fault. What seems to have been at fault is the speed in expelling him.

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OK I'm up for this.

So at present we have a shortage of Doctors, Nurses and schoolteachers but we can carry on building them even though we haven't got the staff to fill the vacancies we presently have.

Good move Andrew.

Oh I forgot we can rape third world countries of their Doctors and Nurses.

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We all need to have a more can-do attitude. Theresa May said that's what the country needs post-Brexit and I agree with her on this.

Where I disagree is with short-term savings like ceasing to fund nurses' university courses. These should be funded by the state, as should teachers' university courses. Not that degrees are the be-all and end-all of training but they seem to be necessary for these roles at the moment.

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Now that is fake news for you... :D

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What's wrong with the FT's reporting on the issue of the automatic extension of government contracts?

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It looks as though ther Government has taken a step backwards to the way things used to be for training nurses.

Link

It will in the majority of cases still mean 4yrs to train a nurse though.

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Nothing in many respects... but point me to a number of pro Brexit stories in the FT.


I know you're not naïve enough to miss the point I was making. The FT has an agenda, and focuses on stories that try to push the remain agenda and weaken support for Brexit; The Express does the same from the other side. Balanced media reporting is a thing of the past.


Because of the time and resources needed for Brexit, some other policies my not get the attention they deserve; That should not surprise anyone with any sense.


But Brexit is so important, that for a limited time, that is a very small price, in comparison, to pay.

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I secretly work for CNN.... keep that quiet though; I don't think my covers been blown yet ;) :D

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Balanced reporting doesn't mean that for every story that covers a negative impact of Brexit you have to provide a story that covers a positive impact of Brexit.
Balanced reporting means that you cover the main stories and you cover them accurately.

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Except that the FT doesn't.

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Do you have an example?

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Have you ever seen an article in the FT that supports Brexit from the perspective of the UK taking control of Immigration, laws and taxes? Surely the UK having control over these things should be every UK citizens desire? I mean, who want's these things decided by people who have not been directly elected?


I'll hazard a guess that there never has, nor ever will be one.

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The FT is a newspaper, not a political party. It maximises its readership by reporting news in an unbiased fashion so that business figures can make important decisions based on facts and informed analysis. It's respected by trade unionists, business leaders; heck, even Trump is a subscriber!

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And the fact it has had very few (if any) pro-Brexit articles should alarm anyone that doesn't have a closed mind. Maybe we should turn to the Fail/Express for a more balanced view, or does just spread the vitriol and interests of its owners?

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The FT has become the Daily Mail of the Europhile elite

An enjoyable aspect of the EU referendum campaign is the nervous condition of the Financial Times. Unable to maintain its usual pretence at judicious balance under the strain, it has become the Daily Mail of the Europhile global elites, warning of the Seven Plagues which will afflict us if we vote to leave. Rather as the Mail loves the headline beginning ‘Just why…?’, so the FT all-purpose referendum headline begins ‘Fears mount…’

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/0...ophile-elite/#


Fail Times


Which Newspapers Support Brexit In The EU Referendum?

The FT made its view clear back on 15 June. It urged readers to vote remain, and also criticised the referendum campaigns of both sides, claiming: “David Cameron’s referendum gamble has proved to be a futile attempt to heal divisions in the ruling Conservative party. The campaign has split the country. Emotions have trumped facts. Born-again populists rail against the establishment.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entr...b0a4f99adc6525

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Well aware of that Michael, Mrs K is a Staff Nurse. She is only too aware of how much we depend on migrants in the NHS both skilled and unskilled. The mounting vacancy crisis in Nursing has been exacerbated by Brexit. EU staff are leaving and few are coming in; they don't feel welcome or valued and there are better offers and prospects and in other countries. However the unskilled cleaners etc who are prepared to work for sweet FA, are equally as vital to the running of the NHS, a large proportion of these are also migrants.

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What you have to remember Mr K is that migrants drive down wages. While there is someone who will do the job for less then companies will exploit that. Simple economics 101.

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And the NHS can afford higher wages? Simple economics 102.

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Considering what they pay for agency nurses then yes until the Government get their perverbial finger out!

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By selecting only stories that side with remain, and ignoring the positive aspects of Brexit, they are biased and pushing an Agenda.


The Express and Daily Mail are just as guilty from the other side.
It amazes me that you fail to see that.

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Maybe there aren't many positive aspects as far as the market is concerned, and they are just reporting that. Where as the Fail/Express owner's have their own agenda to benefit themselves.

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I wouldn't put The Express and The Mail in the same bracket. They have a poor track record of accuracy. http://awards.pressgazette.co.uk/201...es-under-ipso/
I've explained to you that the FT reports the most important stories. Others have explained to you that the absence of good news business Brexit stories could be down to the fact that short of inventing them, there are few such news stories out there.
To a neutral pair of eyes, there can only be one conclusion. To put it in black and white: the FT is not busy hiding good news Brexit business stories by the bucket load. The reality is such stories are as rare as hen's teeth. Which for patriotic people like me who care for the economic wellbeing of their country as that funds services like healthcare and defence, is a tad worrying.

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HERE'S a good business news one the FT failed to report.

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I'm sick of seeing people talking about UK workers not being prepared to do certain jobs as while there is a tiny minority that won't work until they are forced too the majority do apply for any job trouble is the companys have a choice employ the UK worker and have to pay minimum wage or take on an immigrant that will work for £2-3 less an hour. Easy to work for less when your living 10+ to a house and skip out before having to pay utility bills and other mundane costs that normal people have to pay so quit talking trash about UK workers and condemning them all because of a few scroungers.

My brother (half brother if we're being exact) is in international business he runs a group of companys and both he and many of the businessmen he invites to his estate are very positive about brexit saying that more doors will open then close. They are already planning to take advantage of brexit as are many other business people there is a lot of positivity in certain quarters about brexit and it is perplexing that the FT can find none of it or report it. Despite the fact that journalists from the FT have had interviews with pro brexit business they just never make it into print but a negative brexit article hits print at bullet speed. The FT used to be a business persons point of information but it's reputation is suffering because of a couple of things brexit being one where it is definately running an agenda.

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Of course but it fits 1andrew1's agenda so he's happy to keep posting the doom and gloom.

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So, in essence, you are prepared to sell the UK's rights to self determination in areas of taxes, laws and borders, to an outside institution, for what you perceive as economic gain. Economic gain of which there is no absolute proof, and indeed, the opposite view from some quarters.

Sadly, you remind me of Esau, who sold his Birthright to Jacob, for a pot of hot stew. Genesis 25:29-34

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Depends on how hungry you are.

What type of stew was it out of interest?

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Lentil.

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10 years ago I'd have been in full support or even three years ago but it's not like that anymore, they've integrated and don't want to live 10 to a house or do 300 hours anymore or certainly the Polish I work with don't at any rate, plus the wages are actually going up to. It's the main reason I went from hardcore leave to soft remain.

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Forget it, no deal not even if you throw in a new pair of sandals

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International trade has brought prosperity to the world.
But you are quite happy to see the UK's great companies sold off to the highest foreign bidders due to the weak post-Brexit vote £ (Odeon to the Chinese, ARM, our biggest tech company to the Japanese). This is not taking back control, it's losing it.

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Unlike you predicting more terror attacks which is not doom and gloom. ;)

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In what ways can they take advantage of Brexit?
Which business people has the FT interviewed but not published? Don't you think those business people would kick up a stink if the FT wasted their time and did not publish the interviews? Interviews with the very few pro-Brexit business people (JCB, Dyson, Tim Martin of Wetherspoons) have been published to death.
One issue with employment is a lot of jobs with ready vacancies are in London. Younger workers from around the world are prepared to travel there and take them whereas older unemployed people in the rest of the UK with families, kids at local schools and a good community are not. I can understand this and it's partly a structural failing of the London-centric economy with finance, Government and business HQ all in the same city.

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:clap::clap::clap:

a very passionate post it's heart warming to find someone sticking up for our own people instead of constantly trying to talk them down like the EU apologists do.

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cold comfort for the rest of us . papa- 11:4:17

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Source

More good wholesome Brexit news.

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Who is against international trade? certainly not me, or Brexit supporters. We want to international trade agreements, but as a Sovereign nation.

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If we sell off our companies to overseas buyers which Brexit is helping happen through a lower exchange rate then we cease to have sovereignty over them.
EU has brought great prosperity to the UK by making the country more competitive. Gone are the days of flogging Austin Allegros with square steering wheels to grateful subjects in far-flung corners of the globe.
And yes, we're still a sovereign nation today and in the EU.

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do you have examples of these sold on the cheap companies


" the eu has brought great prosperity."...

so where are the British car manufacturers then how many Austins does the EU buy

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We are a Sovereign nation aready: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states

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Not in a practical, every day sense, whilst we are in the EU.


We can't independently, at will, change all laws, all taxes and EU immigration rules whilst still in the EU.


These three things are the heart of Sovereignty.

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I've not said they were sold on the cheap, I said that they were bought by foreign buyers because the Pound depreciated since the Brexit vote. But the costs to overseas buyers in their own currency since the vote were substantially cheaper due to the weaker £.

Companies acquired include our largest tech company ARM (sold to Soft Bank of Japan) and Odeon Cinemas (sold to the Chinese).

Pre-EU, Minis were assembled in Belgium to avoid tariffs. That factory was no longer needed once we joined the EU.

Because of Brexit, battery-powered Minis might be made in Germany instead of the UK. I hope they will be made in the UK.

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Not only that, but staying in the EU will see the UK inevitably drawn into the single European state at some point or other. The EU has that as its stated aim and it's inconceivable that the UK would be able to remain detached from it forever. At that point the choice would be join fully or leave and how much harder would it be to do so then? It's proving difficult enough now...

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Spot on.


They don't want to let us go now, even though we have voted to leave. If we stay loosely tied to the EU (soft Brexit), then they will concentrate on dragging us closer and closer, bit by bit, into federal status. Hard brext is the only safe option. The people of the UK were deceived from the get-go regarding the true aims of 'The Common Market'; we should learn, and not be fooled again.

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:clap::clap::clap:

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We won't get fooled again.

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EUAndrew's going to pitch up in a while and claim it was all perfectly clear first time around but we were all confused second time around... :D

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No one knew that the Berlin Wall would fall but certainly it was explicit that the EEC was more than a trading block. Some people neglected to read the details or listen to the politicians and then moaned many years afterwards. And still are; it's habitual. First world countries are less about manufactured goods and more about services and that brings complexity.
But the UK would never get more deeply involved in the EU than it did. We said "non" to the Euro and "nein" to a single army. So not a single drop of evidence to support the UK having any deeper integration than we have at present.

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Well, you weren't wrong!

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Apart from the over 14,000 international treaties we are members with, including over 130 double taxation treaties, UN treaties on migration and refugees, etc.

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Reuters

More bargaining power. :)

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Back then, there was no internet, no vast access to information, no rolling 24 hr news. It was called the EEC and more popularly known as 'The Common Market'

E E C
European
Economic
community.

Nothing was terribly explicit at all in those days, do you think they changed the name to the EU for no reason?

It was to reflect the 'more than' a trading bloc

Were you even there back then?

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Keep posting Andrew, you're one of the few on here to post facts and not lower yourself to personal insults.

People have different points of view, time some people accepted that and just debated nicely.

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:tu:

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Someone's got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning!
No matter, hopefully we can both agree with the following information:
https://fullfact.org/europe/ask-full...-then-and-now/

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We can agree on this.

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Pip, it would be interesting to know if the majority of leavers were old enough to remember the old common market and that era, which would be a a good take on 'fixing the errors of the previous ref'

and as pointed out, no one would have let it stand if they had seen it grow to the state it ended up in. Frankly anyone trying to fob off the present day EU to it's 1975 version is losing grip with reality.

I'll also add as the elephant(s) in the room, that EU law & immigration were most definitely not part of the discussion at all. Even the article tells us that.

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I'd like to claim it as a major telepathic skill of mine but it was really quite obvious. ;)

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Source

Source

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Don't these people realise that 150 years from now all the Project Fear predictions might come true? They'll have the last laugh if it kills them. Gawd :p:

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That punitive, tax rise filled, emergency budget's just around the corner, you'll see...

:D

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No sign of these chaps either.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...0&d=1492091207

:D

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I'd be very surprised if those fellows made it through the shinny new passport controls

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The FT did report it - 2 years before the Telegraph....

It was first announced in January 2014, way before Brexit....

http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/busi...es-75m-6555440

And the FT did cover it, in 2015....

https://www.ft.com/content/bb264fb4-...7-00144feab7de

And because of that investment.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ngham-25858429

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Not yet, but I suspect they will arrive much sooner than Kursk's 150 years.

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Well it just had to happen didn't it. It was just too good to be true. Brexit was going so well but all good things come to an end don't they. The thought of escaping the EU's mafia emulating octopus tentacles was bound to become a pipe dream. Yes, the wheels were always going to come off sooner or later as our thoroughly magnanimous remainer chums gently tried to inform us if only we'd heard them.

Well it was nice while it lasted but sadly us swivel eyed, xenophobic, blinkered, deluded, Brexiteer loons must have known deep down inside that the day would come when our dreams of freedom would be cruelly dashed and stark reality would dawn upon us. It was surely just a question of when the worst would happen and I'm sad to admit that day has come:

Leaving the EU could offer new opportunities to "upgrade our economy", Jeremy Corbyn says.

:D

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Corbyn has always been anti-EU. Hence his half-hearted attempts to campaign for Remain (which he had to do as most of his support that aren't the communist/stop the war lot are pro-EU).

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Yes I know that but he'd managed to conceal it so well until now. He just had to open that big...


:D

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The penny has dropped.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/polit...says-1.3048046

Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
 

Load of rubbish Andrew.

Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
 

Don't think its a case of the penny's dropped, but someone has told the truth. The previous UK govt, all main political parties, and the current PM and Chancellor know it, that's why they all advised to vote Remain. We can't blame politicians for once.