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Oh dear, glad I ditched VM TV

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Pathetic isn't it.

I'm definitely leaving XL to get the cost back down, the only other packs worth having for me are M and M+.

Is it still the case that you can still view recordings made before the downgrade (apart from Sky channels)?

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We need more streaming additions on the Tivo, and while Hayu is a good deal (free to us but £3.99 elsewhere), I hope to see some more apps with good quality material on them in the near future.

I know some who will love the Hayu app, but I'm afraid I will not be watching this!

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What app do you want? Virgin Media do view this thread (I think).:D

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Yes - As far as we know.

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There are some mentioned already in this thread before and one or two of them would be nice.;)

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I ditched xl tv about two weeks ago, tbh I haven't missed a thing, kept my BB and my Home phone, and my bill has dropped nearly 40 quid!. I was out of contract so managed to get quite a good deal.

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Do you mean Amazon Prime?

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Yes it would be nice to have that but its highly unlikely that would arrive one would say Andrew.

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As soon as the head of acquisitions get back to Britain, we all write him negative mail to persuade him to launch some decent channels. If we are not getting the Red Button streams for the Olympics, that could mean more channels.

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According to this there will be no repeat of the BBC having up to 24 channels of Olympic sport in cable and satellite homes this summer.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...2012-games-nbc

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The price rise to that will come soon :p:

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What that is saying is that the BBC won't have the extra 24 broadcast channels

But I personally think it's likely that as internet connected devices are much more widely available then they were 4 years ago, that the iPlayer / BBC Sport apps will be where the content will be found as they can access the online streams that the BBC have said they will do

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I think you're right.

With regard to the statement "Alongside its coverage on TV and radio and an expanded digital offering through its interactive red button service, each individual sport will be streamed online." I wonder how extensive the enhanced red button service will be and how this fits with the iPlayer?

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Again, the fly in the ointment about this situation is the loss of the ability to record the live content. OK, the London Olympics being our "home" games deserved the treatment it got, & I wouldn't expect Rio to get the same treatment, but I hope we will see several additional streams for Euro 2016, Rio, Wimledon & Glastonbury over the summer.

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You won't need to record it if it's on the BBC I-Player. Presumably they will retain the recordings for a few months at least, maybe a year.

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Why would the BBC do anything special, they're getting rid of it like all sports. They reckon sports isn't the future, but then again so is the future of the BBC....

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It's not that the BBC don't want to do Sport, it's that the costs involved in buying commercial Sports rights are going up to a point where the BBC can't compete.

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And also that their overall budget has been cut severely does not help either..

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But if the support that they need slows down the TiVo, I think that they should wait until the new TiVo comes out or give us the ability to decide how many we want to download.

I thought so, but the TiVo manuals seem to suggest that this is not the case.

I would like to be able to record some things out of XL, downgrade and then view them later.

AFAIK, the old BBC3 capacity will be used, at least in the short term, for a red button service.

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It is only the Sky channels that have the recording restriction on them

Why can't I play back some recordings?

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Totally agree - frozen licence fee but content costs especially sport growing hugely all the time.

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Agreed but maybe not that long; the IOC will want to sell its Rio de Janeiro Olympics highlights DVDs at Christmas.

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I'd be careful making Amazon Prime Video related predictions. What happens is usually the opposite of what is predicted.

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We have not seen anything further on Amazon instant video as of yet, wuaki has been mentioned but we think this one is a wind up as it would collide with VMs own ppv movie service.

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Yes predictions are one thing as we know but actual reality is another.;)

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Reality is all about perspective ;-)

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I wrote a comment to virgin media on there facebook page asking them about when amazon prime and wwe network will launch and they replied saying we may have those apps on tivo in the future just watch this space.

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The people that reply to on Face book only have the words "May", "Future" "Coming" and "Soon" at their disposal. Anything they say should be taken with a pinch of salt...or rather dismissed.

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Trust me they are not coming to uk tivo anytime soon.

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I think Mike knows something ;)

Given that VM added Netflix, and didn't see it as a conflict, I think the same applies to Prime, so not to be dismissed IMHO.

For those who would want to use it often, I'd still buy a Fire TV/Stick or Roku to view it on, rather than the current Tivo.

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I wonder whether Sky will ever add any of these services to its Q box ?

Or is it to much of a competing service to their own offerings , the box currently has Vevo and Youtube with other online video.

Will the Amazon Prime app be the same as the version available on all other connected devices with a PPV offering.

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Now now PB less of the speculation.;)

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:D I'm not speculating personally, I'm just saying that the speculations of those thinking that Prime may come, are potentially plausible ;):)

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Well as we know anything is plausible on this forum including someone eating their hat if such and such arrived.;):D

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All I know is that Amazon was never looking like being on a Roku box and then it was...

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I wouldn't be surprised to see netflix added to SKYQ. Didn't they say they wanted the Q to be the main streaming and tv box? or something like that lol.

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Netflix won't be coming to Sky full stop.

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That's what I've always said.

Although the link below shows Murdoch's Australian pay TV business could consider adding it , different markets I know but it's maybe not as clear cut as I originally thought.

Link

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Maybe not coming to my tv via VM, but just picked up a bargain on eBay!. Black Now Tv box, with three month pass for 14.99! That's me set up, since dropping XL pack.

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Don't forget that you get a two week free trial if you're a new customer. You need to activate this before adding your pass.

I know of someone who was caught out like this, so after his pass ran out he set up a duplicate account with another name and credit card number to be on the safe side.

I believe that he's done this a few times ;-)

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I thought so, thanks for clarifying this Ben :)

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Was his name Richard? :D

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An interesting read

http://blogs.which.co.uk/technology/...-media-tv-box/

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Very, but as it says at the end, with all the available alternatives such as smart TV's etc will people really pay more for Virgin's new box?

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Yes it is a interesting read.

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Watched a couple of shows on hay.u app. Not really the content I would go for, but the picture quality is great. 1080p like Netflix is. No buffer or stuttering either.

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VM do not own a PPV movie service. Virgin Movies is owned by Vubiquity
http://www.digitaltveurope.net/18586...-uks-filmflex/

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Great read, thanks for highlighting.

Anyone else noticed that Vince has gone AWOL since Hayu launched? :)

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VM have a significant degree of control over it and could replace Vubiquity if they wanted to. They don't have such a power over branded providers like Netflix and Wuaki.

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Vince is probably still typing his email of unhappiness to send to Mr Mockeridge.;)

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Perhaps, but that wasn't the point. It isn't a blocker to other services being added, as suggested.

The same incorrect claims were made before Netflix was added...

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I see a pay-per-view mainstream films service as competing and overlaapping directly with Virgin Films. So I see Amazon's and Wuaki's PPV services competing/overlapping with Virgin Films so can't see them coming to VM soon.

But I don't see subscription services like Netflix, Amazon Prime or Mubi competing directly or overlapping with Virgin Films. Nor Curzon which is PPV but has more niche titles.

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I can see Curzon appearing on vm if it isn't there already?
This is available on BTtv too so wouldn't be surprised to see VM get this in the near future if it isn't already there.
I still stand by what i said though i think what i was told about Wuaki was a wind up not because vm would block it but because it may be seen as a conflict with the movie ppv service already on VM.
Netflix and Curzon don't offer the latest movies to rent (curzon does offer movies to rent but movies unheard off).
Wuaki and Amazon video do offer latest movies to rent this is why for now i see vm not wanting them due to a conflict of interest in the movie rental system vm already have in place.
EDIT:
Something i think we will see VM start to do possibly in the next 2 years is introduce a buy and keep option where you can purchase movies or shows and download them to your set top box or computer, i think this may be introduced shortly after the new Tivo is launched.

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Curzon is on VM. The buy and keep solution is mentioned in the VM questionnaire reproduced in the Which? blog so looks likely.

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I was hoping in the list they would be that the new box would have wifi to connect other tivos up to as i hate my powerlines lol

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But the free Prime videos, which are what most Prime members use, video wise, would be in the same category as the Netflix videos. Therefore, that part could be implemented with no conflicting issues.

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Agreed. Some time ago, VM approached Amazon to discuss getting them onto the Tivo, but Amazon could not commit to that at the time. However, we've moved on since then and maybe subsequent talks have been positive. I certainly hope so as this will be a good USP for Virgin compared with Sky's offering.

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Very true i can't see there being any issue with that part of Amazon instant video being on vm.

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I do think we are likely to have wifi on TiVo to connect other TiVo. But looking into TiVo models they seems to be down the route like sky q of one box and then steaming content via wifi to other boxes and seems to match rumoured pic and matches colour of superhub

https://www.tivo.com

What you think mediaboy

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Don't read anything into that. VM only take software from TiVo. VM TiVo boxes are built to VM's specs by manufacturers of VM's choice (currently Cisco and Samsung).

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But would nice To know what features we can expect

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I think the minimum should include bigger hard drive, 4K, wifi, viewing recording on the move, customisable folders and ideally external hard drive support to back up important recordings

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External hard drive support to back up recordings , good luck with that.

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Watch this space is all i can say at this moment in time, external hard drive though certainly is not going to happen.

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Not a hope in hell of happening...

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Do you know things about the new box then, it's a shame in America you can back up to external hard drive

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Are you prepared to bet your hat on that?

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I have information yes i'm just waiting for the nod to post the information i've been given.

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l don't wear hats my dear chap as l have a reasonable mop of hair so a hat would not really be suitable for me.:D

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Can I ask one question and I understand if you can't tell us but will a new box only allow one box and stream rest or can we still get two boxes

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No details have been given on number of boxes allowed as of yet but we think you will be allowed more than one box but for example you may pay £99 for first box then £199 for each box after plus £5 - £10p/m multiroom subscription per extra box.
These are only thoughts at the moment though.

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The only thing about that, that I find is a bad move is multi room charge as sky q don't have a multi room charge any longer but the rest seems viable. We still around 3 months to find out

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I'm sure that VM will finalise pricing nearer to the launch date. Will be interesting to see if BT reacts to Sky Q too.

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They already are looking into moving away from Youview apparantly, only seen a couple of rumours on this, i think talktalk may follow suite too.

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The Sunday Telegraph says BT has begun discussing a bid to take full control of YouView, allowing it to speed decision-making. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...ol-of-tv-tech/
Definitely shows that VM needs a great forthcoming TV platform offering.

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The retail Tivo in the US is being discontinued as most people who want to spend on subscription TV get their PVRs from their cable or satellite companies and those that don't want to pay subscription fees don't want to pay Tivo fees either! I don't think any of the Tivos distributed via cable companies will allow external hard drive functionality as the content providers would charge a lot more for their content if this functionality was permitted.

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The problem for BT is that it's hampered by its own network.

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BT seems to have the same habit as Sky in that it seems to throw money at things like confetti but the difference is Sky always seem several steps ahead of them at many many levels.

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God forbid any company trying to invest eh?

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Nothing wrong with investing Sir but throwing good money after bad ain't a good idea in the long run as it catches up with you.

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All companies do it mate tbh VM included although vm do seem to be a bit wiser these days, i hope BT do take over Youview at least then it may start to progress.
My concern would be for talktalk who also use Youview unless bt and tt come to a deal.
Meanwhile vm news wise nothing to report as of yet.

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Do you have a source for that Andrew?

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I think bt issue still is they can't compete directly with sky and virgin due to capacity, bt is better than freeview but still leagues away from the rest. I look forward to pricing but we will need to wait and see if they try £199 like TiVo was when sky is £99 if you have broadband or movies and sports

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As far as I remember cable companies want to start using TiVo instead of seperate devices

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I assume he's referring to this http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...ourt-10-a.html

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All info I have is still under DNP.

An new app is testing.

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Thanks Ben.

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Do you mean a new TiVo anywhere app. Because apps on this box are slow and I don't bother now. When I want catch up I use my smart tv as it is so much quicker and virgin should be pushing some info or allowing yourself to give info as the current TiVo boxes are a waste of time and no longer worth the money

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No an new app is testing to launch only on TiVo boxes.

Our sources still to remove their DNP orders.

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The apps work at a perfectly adequate speed in our household..

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Even the iPlayer?

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Apart from the odd viewing of iPlayer, I don't use the TiVo apps. They work so much quicker through my PS4.

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Even the iPlayer..

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Well your lucky because majority of customers have issues

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That's a great big statement to say the majority of customers have problems with it and in my opinion that's wholly inaccurate to say the least Sir.

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I don't use the Apps on Tivo, it is like something from the 90's and 56k modems.

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My TiVo is very very slow and much prefer to use my V hd box when using catch up/on demand.

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Completely agree. Never use TiVo for apps. Ps4 loads up instantly with Netflix etc.

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Digital Spy: Virgin Media UK set to update TiVo boxes.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...66&postcount=1

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Well upon looking this was rumours surrounding the upcoming TiVo and can't find a posting on digital spy

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Try this link http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...6#post82097866

We can now confirmed that we was told they was testing weeks ago from our sources.

More things set to happen - still on our DNP list.

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Do your sources have info when this should launch or does it have a DNP thing to, thank god for these forums

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All we know is the launch date is "By Summer games in Rio".

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A few of those features sound familiar.

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Does that mean you series link + like say shows on Netflix. So say new orphan black on Netflix would series link plus remind us episodes that coming up

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When do we get the info on how to use the new features

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I'm mean is there launch date for the new software or is that launching with new box

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Interesting but its a new box with a bigger memory and more tuners that we are interested in.