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read about it here http://forums.mydigitallife.info/forums/54-Windows-10?

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What makes you think it isn't update related as it clearly says it is?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1438444303

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I've turned it off and the shutdown hold up or screw up still persists.

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I wasn't saying this update thing i posted was anything to do with your shutdown problem, i was just pointing it out.

You probably have another setting switched on that is slowing it down somewhere.

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What I meant was the issue isn't update related but thank you for bringing windows update distribution to my attention.

There are no messages regarding updates being installed processed or otherwise during shutdown for the shutdown issue to be present due to updates being installed.

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Well, my Start Menu and Cortana is broken, again.

This happened in an insider build and the fixes from then work until a reboot occurs. Going to have to do some investimigations.

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have you done a sfc/scannow in command prompt to make sure no corrupt files

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Not as yet, going to play around this evening and see what's up.

Aside from that Windows 10 has been very good to me but something clearly has hit a snag there.

Edit: Nothing Found there.

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No idea if this will work but try going into tablet mode then back to the desktop.

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Just turned it off so that my laptop doesn't share updates out. can you imagine those on a limited bandwidth not knowing about this

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If I look at the update history I am seeing many failed attempts Windows 10 updates both on my desktop running Win 8.1 Pro 64 bit and on my laptop running Win 8.1 home 64 bit.
Both have over 30 gig free hard drives with 4 gig of ram .

Is any one else having this problem?

Ken

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I've seen that on every PC we've got. There is one common factor; two PCs are branded HP and one is branded Compac ( which I believe is owned by HP) I have installed W10 on all the PCs by using the download available on the microsoft web site and they have all worked perfectly.

My only problem with my main PC is that the main website I want to run wont work on Edge so I switched to Chrome. And I had to download a newer version of Kaspersky for each PC

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So it is not just me!

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I'm holding on til Christmas til all the annoying bugs are gone

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I understand that IE is also available in Windows 10.

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yes IE still in windows 10

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A problem with no real solution: PCs running windows 10 with "Microsoft accounts" and PCs with local accounts cannot share folders. The workaround is to make them all the same "type". It drove me mad for 2 days, disabling credential managers, disabling passwords etc for shares until I found the above workaround.

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I hear different stories about whether Cortana works with a Mike in the UK

I can talk to my PC and get it to do things but can't speak to Cortana, is is just me?

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It is working fine here with the mic on my webcam.

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Works for me with a 2008 laptop and built in microphone.

Cortana isn't set to listen all the time by default as far as I saw - you have to click the microphone icon first, or turn on listening in Cortana settings in order to be able to just say 'Hey Cortana'

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Worked fine for me on my cheapo Toshiba 8" tablet, although I turned "hey Cortana" off to save battery life.

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Upgraded fine on my toshiba laptop (which I dual boot with linux so is no "loss").

Don't like the metro stuff but I can change defaults and ignore it. Earlier reports said you could turn start menu into a more classical view but this seems to be missing now.

I'm quite concerned about privacy so I've disabled most of the data collection "features" I'm not going to sign in with hotmail and so I can't use cortana.
Don't like how settings and control panels are two separate things.
Don't like how you can't select updates
Can't seem to find a way to change wifi network from public to private. Seems a major UI mistake. UIs are more fragmented and unintuitive.
Liking the multidesktop feature.

Was concerned I couldn't find the volume mixer but if you right click it's still there.

I'm not sure how eager I am to upgrade my main pc to be honest.

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Updated to Win 10 from Win7 Pro using an iso copy from Microsoft web site.

Everything appears to have gone well apart from a 'Credentials' problem. I cannot get the calendar to accept any of my accounts, either Microsoft or Outlook.com.

Keep getting error code 0x80070425. :(

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got to store and check for updates see if that helps

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Just discovered a small problem with outlook sending mail.

It refuses to send it and reports this error message

Error message: ‘Robert – Sending’ reported error (0x800CCC13): ‘Cannot connect to the network. Verify your network connection or modem’

Fortunately its well known you just have to run sfc /scannow and the files outlook needs are but back in properly. (I hope) This affects any version of outlook. We run 2010 on one PC and 2013 on the other. The scan is 50 percent done now so I hope all goes well.

it also says to reboot the PC after the scan

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Yeah I did that to my laptop after the icons/thumbs went missing. Solved that issue very effectively. Just wondering, using the built in codecs from Windows as suggested but MKV files very jittery on playback. Would downloading a codec just for MKV files be worthwhile?

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Well my partner updated to Windows 10 this morning and it took about a hour and everything seems fine although there are quite a few updates on different things once its installed.

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hope she and you like it Den mate

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The only thing we can't work out is that it says Cortana is not available in our region currently.

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it available in uk mate did she get en-gb version of windows 10 and what did she upgrade from

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Networks on Windows 10 are foobared big time.

Wake on Lan does not work.

Permissions (in Linux terms) Credentials (microsoft's terms) are foobared, in Microsoft's attempt to monitor every computer in the network. If the computer is passworded, then god knows how you can access it from other computer even when you disable passworded sharing..

How do you get ride of the poin?

Aaaaaaaaaargh!

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Sounds like a registry hack will be needed to disable monitoring if there's no other way. Same nonsense as scanning inserted media for content by default. That can only be disabled from the registry.

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We upgraded from Windows 7 Dave to Windows 10 home.

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Make sure all the keyboard and language settings are set to English UK. You may also need to download some extra dictionaries and voice packs.

That's what I had to do. But then I didn't enable it because of the privacy concerns.

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I haven't succumbed to doing the download yet, but seems to me it's not for the faint hearted :erm: :D:D:D

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Thanks for those tips DQ.

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Installed 10 on my gaming rig (for dx12) & my trusty Samsung R730 laptop.
Then put new SSD's in both machines and done clean installs.
Requires some drivers from Win 8.1 for laptop, almost everything on both machines working fine. Issues with some Fn functions on laptop & a graphical bug on the gaming rig where if shadowplay is turned on along with the FPS option I get framerates in the minimise/maximise/close buttons in all open windows.
Pretty happy at the moment, especially after turning off micro$ofts data gathering/harvesting options. Although I'm sure there are some silent harvesters that people are yet to find.

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Well I have Win 10 on the laptop, and I can't say I'm over the moon with it. I won't be putting it on my main desktop unless DX12 becomes an issue. Win 7 feels better.

And I hate the icons and the layouts/explorer.

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I've personally welcomed it upgrading from 8.1 which started to become a real slug. MS need not patch this to death! Please!

Shutdown hold up is still present though. Do they have to turn the display off soo quickly?! Simultaneous or even a couple seconds out will do but a whole 10 odd seconds between display off and machine off!!

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It's light years ahead of Windows 8. Up to now i have no issues at all with windows 10.

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All good here. Looking great.

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I have noticed that W10 appears to be faster on my main desktop compared with W8.1. cant see much difference on the others. I agree the ikons on the task bar are too small and all MS allow you is to make them smaller. And this is with a 27inch monitor!

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But l need them bigger not smaller as my eyes are getting worse like others are too.:(

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Microsoft KNOWS BEST :mad:

I have managed to tell MS not to tell me in Notifications what e-mail I have received.

Have you noticed if you use IE 11 that there is a little smile face in the top right hand corner that's asks you to (Let us know what you think).

Is their philosophy now to treat everyone as complete imbeciles?

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Most people are imbeciles

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Bit harsh! SOME people are imbeciles..;)

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I just clicked on the smilie and all it does is ask you to report on the web site and if it has any faults etc.

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And thank goodness !!

There is no Tracking Protection in Edge, and it's really starting to P me off :mad:

At least with IE11 you can add the TPL's and get a relatively ad free experience, but Edge is just hopeless. As far as I can see, at the moment at least, there is no way to add TPL's to Edge, so I'm back to using IE11.

Apart from this, I'm fairly happy with the upgrade to Windows 10. All 3 physical upgrades, and one VM went without any great showstoppers. Just a couple of specific drivers for the Fujitsu laptop were not present on 10, so just used the existing 8.1 drivers instead.

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Im wondering, has anyone downloaded and used any of the apps from the store on windows 10 such as facebook or twitter and do they work ok?

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The Facebook app is problematic if you use a small tablet. It hasn't been updated for Windows 10 which causes an issue as the on-screen keyboard is taller in Windows 10 (as it has a bar on top with close, resize etc buttons on it) so it obscures the text entry box in messenger mode.

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Just had my first real hiccup, system was in sleep mode, when awoken I got a blue screen with following message.

Windows encountered a problem, your system needs to restart, check for problem online..Memory_Management.

It then rebooted several times, all the while reporting it was installing updates before finally settling down.

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For those interested about Privacy Trade off with Win 10 here's a transcript of part of a podcast by Steve Gibson (of Gibson Research) & Leo Laporte (of The Tech Guy).

They talk about what is enabled by default with an express install and how to disable any you are not happy about. There's a lot of banter inbetween but you can scroll past that.

I found it informative and hope you do too.

I won't be upgrading anytime soon as I agree with Steve, it makes it harder for me to do the things I do most, though I do admit it's a vast improvement on Win8 (which I never used either). I'll stick with Win 7 for now.

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yes facebook and twitter apps work good on windows 10

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can u use the apps on Windows 10 PC aswell as the tablets?

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yes sure can I use them on pc no probs at all

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My main PC has been displaying the Windows 10 update notification for some time - since June. I know it is of a suitable spec.

Having become impatient I decided to install by downloading directly from the windows site. I opted to install directly to "this PC". Unfortunately the installation has failed three times on the first reboot. On the second attempt I disconnected all unnecessary devices. This made no difference.

I tried also to install via bootable media, a USB stick. (NTFS) Repeatedly the system fails to create the necessary media, let alone be ready to install.

I am reluctant to disconnect all my additional internal hard drives, sound card and video card to make things less complicated for the installation. Surely a well constructed installation file should be able to upgrade any suitable device. I do hope when my upgrade comes as part of the roll out I do not have similar problems.

OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Version 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601

System Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
System Model G41M-ES2H
System Type x64-based PC
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8300 @ 2.50GHz, 2500 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date Award Software International, Inc. F2, 22/04/2010
SMBIOS Version 2.4

Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 8.00 GB

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Uninstall any security software you may have installed prior to install.

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I keep getting a message to download, still have not done it yet, I hate changes so I will read all your reports first, It says it is free and then in small print it says " your internet provider may charge a small fee".

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For downloading the file. MS cannot possibly refund those people eating into their monthly usage allowance.

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Including F-secure and spyhunter?

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Yes.

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I never uninstalled the AV on two windows 7 pcz when upgrading to Windown 10 and i never had any issues .. both installs were fine.no issues ..


and just to say .. F secure AV is a load of pants anyway.

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The windows 10 update uninstalled my copy of Kaspersky (but it reinstalled ok)

And when I unplug my x52 joystick it locks up the PC

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Never disabled anything including Malware Bytes and Trend Micro Premium, no install problems whatsoever.

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OK thanks trying now - leaving Acronis installed for now.

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new updates now available

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Yip Update (KB3081436) is available for download now .

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No go I am afraid. Did as you suggested thenry, but now I get the message

"Setup couldn't start properly. Please reboot your PC and try running Windows 10 Setup again"

This is entirely new. It occurs when Media Creation tool x64 is creating the setup media.

I have made no changes apart from uninstalling F-Secure and Spyhunter.

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Did you reboot your machine after uninstalling security softwares?

there are these if you did...

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Se....microsoft.com

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Thanks. Yes I did, even though it isn't required. I'll see what your link tells me.

However, I am beginning to wonder if it is worth it.

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An added complication is that there are normal and N versions and even a KN version for South Korea. You have to update using the matching one.
N version is without Windows Media Player etc.
There are a few more thing to watch out for in this link.

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firefox 40 out now with windows 10 support

http://www.winbeta.org/news/firefox-...ion-40-release

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It won't download on any connection you've marked as metered. But that's not possible on Windows 7.

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Interesting development!The roll out has reached me!

The process of installation began last night at 10.00 pm. A Get Windows 10 window appeared. This quickly read "Working on it..." At 8.00 this morning it is still there. The hard drive is busy processing something.

I am assuming that the installation process is busily figuring out my system and making adjustments for it - or has stalled.

What I don't get is why this upgrade is so naff that it can't work quickly with my very typical system / configuration. I remember upgrading to Windows 7 from my old operating system with no problems - all my old files, programmes, drivers, discs and add-ons being dealt with deftly. What is so special about Windows 10 that it can't manage my configuration swiftly?

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Never had a problem on my system, it only took 30mins when I joined the insider program, so maybe you have a problem.

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That is an understatement! Yet, my configuration is not particularly unusual. It works without any sign of underlying problems. All drivers are up-to-date.

No system is the same. MS should be able to cope. Going by the problems I am reading about in the various forums there are mounting problems with the upgrade process, installed Windows 10 not functioning properly and ruined systems.

Imagine the millions of non-savvy computer users out there who don't know what is about to hit them.

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I've reserved my free upgrade, but I didn't realise I had to wait until they tell me when it is ready, how long does that take? :confused:

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Don't know but there is an instant way of getting hold of W10 > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

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Oh thank you thenry, it would be helpful to know how many people are pleased with this upgrade, or wish they hadn't bothered. :dozey:

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I upgraded from Windows 8 a few months ago and have no problems or regrets, I am a happy camper!

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Me too ~ Hi De Hi

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It varies. I waited since June some time.

Waste of time though, in my case.

The rolled out installation hung all night. So, this morning, I was recommended a Windows Update fixer so I ran that and the W10 upgrade resumed through Windows Update. "At last", I thought. Unfortunately after going through systems checks etc the installation fell over at 30% just at the point where it was installing drivers, etc. Same old, same old I'm afraid.

I have decided not to bother. Windows 7 is fine.

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Thanks for that folks, but Windows 8 was not as good as 7 from what I gather. It would be handy to know if Windows 7 people are as happy about the upgrade.

I have decided to wait for the go ahead as I don't have a USB stick or enough DVD's to download the upgrade from Microsoft site.

---------- Post added at 11:57 ---------- Previous post was at 11:55 ----------

Oh deary me I hope I don't have any glitches when the time comes :erm:

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Just think I will stay with widows 7 too,

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You don't have to create a physical media to upgrade to W10. Once you have downloaded the Windows 10 tool, the correct bit version, open the installer and proceed via the Upgrade this machine now option on the What do you want to do page. After download you'll have the option to keep files & apps, files or nothing then install/upgrade.

Install guide
http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/1/908...d-how-to-guide

you can always revert back if you don't like it.

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Win 7 Pro to Win 10 Pro was trouble free. Downloaded and burned the ISO file to a DVD to give me time to do a thorough back up. Overall I like it, still tweaking bits and pieces like stopping PDF files opening with EGDE etc.

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Is that correct, I could revert back to Windows 7 if I don't like it? Would that be difficult?

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It shouldn't be difficult, there's a button to do it in the control panels, but I haven't seen how well it works myself.

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Do you mean System Restore?

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The recovery options in W10 will give you the option to go back to your previous OS. The roll-back option is available for a month after W10 is installed. If you want to revert back to your previous OS after one month you'll have to use your restore function which could be an inbuilt restore to factory defaults or external source such as a disc.

Also if there are any issues during installation the same will happen, the installer will revert you back to where you were prior to installation of W10.

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Well it's a special button specially says return to windows (7/8) but it may use the system restore system.

But yes you need to use it within a month after the upgrade.

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That's very reassuring thenry, Factory settings is another (?) But thank you for answering questions that I'm sure others on here having been wanting to ask/know, before taking the final step.:tu:

Also many thanks to those who posted their opinions of Windows 10 above.

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by restore to factory defaults I mean restore to however your machine came when purchased. Or however you wish it to be via other media, a disc for example with a product key for say W7 if that is how you obtained the OS on the machine. If the OS came with the machine and its registered then you should have some form of recovery whether that be on your harddrive or on disc. You do have recovery just say you go over the month and you want to revert back?

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Mmm I'm now mulling it over.............probably sleep on it, thanks thenry.:)

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Perfectly happy with Windows 10.It installed over Windows 7 just fine.

Then my son decided that my PC was too slow in loading and decided to install an Solid State Drive. He was able to do that and reinstall Windows 10 on the new drive while leaving me my other HD for storage and my system is much,much faster and I've had no issues.

Well apart from a constant whine from my husband.

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I finally succumbed and started the upgrade at 6.48pm it took till 10.15pm to finish. I have not had time yet to play about, but first impression it seems quite acceptable.

Thanks for that Maggy!

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Glad it went good for you guys! I still have to install windows 8.1 to get the upgrade then come back to 10 again! Not looking forward to that.

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Wow. Why did it take soo long Tinky? Do you know where it was held up? Have you got a poor internet connection? Installation wise its copy files, install and configure :confused:

How long did it take others to upgrade? Mine was pretty quick, no SSD here btw.

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Two problems so far, it takes an absolute age to boot up, and also I get a message in Windows live mail saying that there was a problem logging in...... but I still get my emails :confused: