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tvtimes 05-05-2013 14:21

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35568445)
£10 is the rumoured price on satellite. VM have the advantage of BT showing their hand first, and can price and package it as they see fit later.


He could do that now with ESPN for only £6 or £8. I'd be interested to know why he hasn't.

Are you suggesting that VM will subsidise the cost? I can't see them doing that or BT allowing it. BT could quite easily put a clause in the contract that they are not able to put it in their top pack.

denphone 05-05-2013 14:25

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BSkyB: Ready for a “Noisy summer”

http://advanced-television.com/2013/...-noisy-summer/

spankysmagicpian 05-05-2013 14:25

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Even if Virgin consider there is enough margin in the VIP pack (or even XL) to include FOC?

andy_m 05-05-2013 14:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35568445)
£10 is the rumoured price on satellite. VM have the advantage of BT showing their hand first, and can price and package it as they see fit later.

Is it definitely Virgin's choice?

tvtimes 05-05-2013 14:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35568454)
Is it definitely Virgin's choice?

Not a chance that it is.

BT are not to going to invest all this money and then allow a rival to strengthen their platform and in turn weaken BT's own. Bt will want to have the best deals when it comes down to their sports.
Otherwise defectors from Sky may well choose VM over BT.

Gavin-D 05-05-2013 16:04

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BT to screen sport free to superfast broadband subscribers

BT is set to give free access to its sports channel showing live Premier League football to a million subscribers who take its high-speed fibre optic broadband service.

The telecoms giant is expected to announce the plan on Friday when it unveils full-year figures likely to show profits up five per cent to £2.5billion for the year to March 31.

It is also set to reveal the price of BT Sport for subscribers who take the channel direct from BT rather than via rival broadcasters such as Sky. City bank Nomura reckons this will be £10 a month.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/b...#ixzz2SQkuvZu2

Chad 05-05-2013 17:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35568445)
He could do that now with ESPN for only £6 or £8. I'd be interested to know why he hasn't.

He doesn't know his arse from his elbow when it comes to these type of things. I'm just trying to keep him right. Whenever I suggest changes, or moving to SKY, he tells me to speak to my Mum as she pays the bills :D

denphone 05-05-2013 17:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35568521)
He doesn't know his arse from his elbow when it comes to these type of things. I'm just trying to keep him right. Whenever I suggest changes, or moving to SKY, he tells me to speak to my Mum as she pays the bills :D

Yes there are quite a few men like that l am afraid.:D:dig:

Jameseh 05-05-2013 17:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35568497)
BT to screen sport free to superfast broadband subscribers

Great, I'l switch to BT right away! Oh, you have no plans for fibre optic in my area? Then #@!$ you BT.

Chad 05-05-2013 17:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35568497)
BT to screen sport free to superfast broadband subscribers

BT is set to give free access to its sports channel showing live Premier League football to a million subscribers who take its .

The telecoms giant is expected to announce the plan on Friday when it unveils full-year figures likely to show profits up five per cent to £2.5billion for the year to March 31.

It is also set to reveal the price of BT Sport for subscribers who take the channel direct from BT rather than via rival broadcasters such as Sky. City bank Nomura reckons this will be £10 a month.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/b...#ixzz2SQkuvZu2

Pretty interesting. There was a suggestion from someone who completed a BT survey that SKY customers who move from SKY Broadband to BT Infinity, but keep SKY TV, will get BT Sports for free on the SKY platform.

How much is the cheapest "high-speed fibre optic broadband service" offered by BT? I've tried to get a price from their website but it keeps trying to bundle me up with other services.

muppetman11 05-05-2013 17:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35568527)
Pretty interesting. There was a suggestion from someone who completed a BT survey that SKY customers who move from SKY Broadband to BT Infinity, but keep SKY TV, will get BT Sports for free on the SKY platform.

How much is the cheapest "high-speed fibre optic broadband service" offered by BT? I've tried to get a price from their website but it keeps trying to bundle me up with other services.

Cheapest Infinity Unlimited BB package appears to be £23 a month which compared to Sky Fibre is £3 more expensive however with free BT Sport would save you money that said its vastly dearer for those like myself who are happy enough with Skys Unlimited ADSL service which only costs £7.50 a month even when you factor £10 for BT Sport in on Sky you'd still save money staying with Sky and adding BT Sport.

tvtimes 05-05-2013 17:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35568497)
BT to screen sport free to superfast broadband subscribers

BT is set to give free access to its sports channel showing live Premier League football to a million subscribers who take its high-speed fibre optic broadband service.

The telecoms giant is expected to announce the plan on Friday when it unveils full-year figures likely to show profits up five per cent to £2.5billion for the year to March 31.

It is also set to reveal the price of BT Sport for subscribers who take the channel direct from BT rather than via rival broadcasters such as Sky. City bank Nomura reckons this will be £10 a month.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/b...#ixzz2SQkuvZu2

More journalist speculation passed off as fact!

Chad 06-05-2013 19:55

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http://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Vision...HD/td-p/850862

BT customers have seen the following channels update on their boxes.

BT Sport 1 - Channel 943
BT Sport 2 - Channel 944
BT Sport 1 HD - Channel 945
BT Sport 2 HD - Channel 946

There is also a suggestion that 2 HD channels are testing on SKY.

"Apprarently on the Sky platform there are now 2 HD BT Sport channels positions that are currently encrypted in addition to the the two SD channels that can currently be viewed showing a a "BT Sport Coming Soon" image."

"They're testing through the 'other channels' manual tuning part of the Sky Guide apparantly. Not sure what frequency they're using though."

It certainly looks like BT Sports is gathering pace. Hopefully by the end of this week we will know how much it'll cost and what channels will be on what platforms.

denphone 07-05-2013 10:51

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BT 'needs Sky’s help’ to succeed in sports TV.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...sports-TV.html

nstokes 07-05-2013 11:01

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I agree i think BT do need Sky's help to succed

Gavin-D 07-05-2013 13:15

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UFC comes to BT Sport

Upstart sports TV providers BT Sport have confirmed a three-year broadcast deal with the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) - and MotoGP could soon follow.

The company, who are moving into the sports TV realm with the summer launch of two BT Sport channels, plus an ESPN-branded channel, already have 38 Premier League matches per year for three years and exclusive live coverage of Premiership Rugby for four.

And now the channel are set to bolster their portfolio with the additions of UFC and MotoGP to their channels' schedules.

As we reported previously on Mirror Online, the UFC deal - which was officially announced this morning - is set to offer comprehensive coverage of the world's biggest MMA promotion, with live events backed up with BT-produced primetime magazine shows and highlight programming aimed at introducing the fast-rising sport of mixed martial arts to a new audience.

The three-year partnership will see all of UFC’s live and taped programming broadcast on the BT Sport channels and, for the first time, will include originally produced programming for the UK and Irish audience with exclusive access which will result in up to 400 hours of TV programming to UFC’s loyal fanbase.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-...#ixzz2Sbldb5zY

paultrademark 07-05-2013 16:25

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Not sure if this will affect the 30 SPL and 10 SFL2 games featuring Rangers which are moving to BT Sports, but I'd assume the play offs that will now be played at the end of the season might be shown on TV as well.

Link

tvtimes 07-05-2013 18:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35568944)
BT 'needs Sky’s help’ to succeed in sports TV.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...sports-TV.html

It doesn't need Sky's help at all. It can reach Sky's customers without having to wholesale to Sky. The Telegraph really are looking like a misinformed piece of **** when it comes to reporting on this new sporting venture from British Telecom.

spankysmagicpian 07-05-2013 20:22

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It wouldn't surprise me if Sky and BT kissed and made up - SS1 and SS2 in a swap for BTS1 and BTS2 and left Virgin out in the cold or rather £10 a month worse off.

Jameseh 07-05-2013 20:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spankysmagicpian (Post 35569130)
It wouldn't surprise me if Sky and BT kissed and made up - SS1 and SS2 in a swap for BTS1 and BTS2 and left Virgin out in the cold or rather £10 a month worse off.

BT will have 4 sports channels, maybe they're holding out for all 6 Sky Sports channels.

denphone 07-05-2013 20:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spankysmagicpian (Post 35569130)
It wouldn't surprise me if Sky and BT kissed and made up - SS1 and SS2 in a swap for BTS1 and BTS2 and left Virgin out in the cold or rather £10 a month worse off.

A scenario but a unlikely one.

tvtimes 07-05-2013 21:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35568944)
BT 'needs Sky’s help’ to succeed in sports TV.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...sports-TV.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by spankysmagicpian (Post 35569130)
It wouldn't surprise me if Sky and BT kissed and made up - SS1 and SS2 in a swap for BTS1 and BTS2 and left Virgin out in the cold or rather £10 a month worse off.

Never gonna happen and I doubt ofcom would allow it either!

colin25 07-05-2013 21:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35569150)
A scenario but a unlikely one.

We can but dream :)

denphone 07-05-2013 21:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35569160)
We can but dream :)

Yes sometimes we are a bunch of dreamers on CF and l blame the little and large duo from the north for that.:D:waving::waving:

Mr Banana 07-05-2013 21:28

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[QUOTE=denphone;35569150]A scenario but a unlikely

If VM didn't carry BT sports I wonder if the loss of revenue (from customers leaving) would be less than the cost of carrying the channels? What do you think?

Media Boy UK 07-05-2013 21:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35569170)
If VM didn't carry BT sports I wonder if the loss of revenue (from customers leaving) would be less than the cost of carrying the channels? What do you think?

We may get more news on BT Sports by the weekend.

colin25 07-05-2013 21:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35569174)
We may get more news on BT Sports by the weekend.

Rivals the end of season games, news from BT :)

denphone 07-05-2013 21:33

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[QUOTE=Top banana;35569170]
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35569150)
A scenario but a unlikely

If VM didn't carry BT sports I wonder if the loss of revenue (from customers leaving) would be less than the cost of carrying the channels? What do you think?

But who says that many customers would leave if they did not have BT Sports as the impact of such scenarios is often over-stated.

Media Boy UK 07-05-2013 21:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35569168)
Yes sometimes we are a bunch of dreamers on CF and l blame the little and large duo from the north for that.:D:waving::waving:

I have got no news from insiders about BT Sports confirmed anything so as my Dad says 'No news is good news.'

denphone 07-05-2013 21:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35569179)
I am have got no news from insiders about BT Sports confirmed anything so as my Dad says 'No news is good news.'

Thanks MB but rest assured you yourself are not one of the two of that famous duo.:D

Media Boy UK 07-05-2013 21:45

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Reports over on DS Forum say that Sky Sports 1 and Sky Sports 2 has been remove from Freeview EPG.

(Still on my TV).

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=1225

Mr Banana 07-05-2013 21:57

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[QUOTE=denphone;35569178]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35569170)

But who says that many customers would leave if they did not have BT Sports as the impact of such scenarios is often over-stated.

That's my point Denphone, how many people would actually leave? When the sky stuff kicked off a few years back 40k left which from a revenue loss perspective it was less than sky wanted for the channels.

alwaysabear 07-05-2013 22:32

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[QUOTE=Top banana;35569170]
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35569150)
A scenario but a unlikely

If VM didn't carry BT sports I wonder if the loss of revenue (from customers leaving) would be less than the cost of carrying the channels? What do you think?

I for one would not be leaving VM if they did not carry BT sport, although I feel it is highly unlikely that VM would not have BT sport. For me it will be all about the cost.

denphone 08-05-2013 15:18

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BT Sport kicks off first marketing push.

http://www.marketingweek.co.uk/news/...006592.article

Media Boy UK 08-05-2013 15:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35569456)
BT Sport kicks off first marketing push.

http://www.marketingweek.co.uk/news/...006592.article

That the one I saw yesterday - but BT has added Bale and an player from Celtic and Rangers to that poster on the one I saw.

coulsontom 08-05-2013 15:31

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BT Sport logo was plastered across the big screens and on electronic advertising boards during City-WBA match last night.

denphone 08-05-2013 15:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35569461)
That the one I saw yesterday - but BT has added Bale and an player from Celtic and Rangers to that poster on the one I saw.

Well lets hope the nitty gritty gets revealed tomorrow MB.

paultrademark 08-05-2013 16:53

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Yup reckon we will know what is happening before the season ends anyway :)

Doug P 08-05-2013 17:37

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[QUOTE=alwaysabear;35569214]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35569170)

I for one would not be leaving VM if they did not carry BT sport, although I feel it is highly unlikely that VM would not have BT sport. For me it will be all about the cost.

Would never leave VM over one or two channels like BT much as I love sport. I fully expect VM to get the channels at a monthly subscription which I will not be paying.

denphone 08-05-2013 20:43

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BT Sport aims to tackle Sky head on.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013...e-sky-football

muppetman11 09-05-2013 08:16

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https://twitter.com/BTSport/status/332385800354414592

Rio Ferdinand to join BT Sports

denphone 09-05-2013 08:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35569772)

Oh dear.:rolleyes:

tvtimes 09-05-2013 09:28

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What's wrong with Ferdinand?

colin25 09-05-2013 09:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tvtimes (Post 35569787)
What's wrong with Ferdinand?

what is right with him? :)

Not overly impressed with any of BT's choices so far

denphone 09-05-2013 09:55

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BT Sees Future in Sports as BSkyB Moves Into Broadband.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...broadband.html

---------- Post added at 09:55 ---------- Previous post was at 09:54 ----------

Jake Humphrey: BT Sport is ready to take on Sky Sports.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013...ort-sky-sports

Chad 09-05-2013 11:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35569174)
We may get more news on BT Sports by the weekend.

Looks like you have petrol head fans:

http://www.rsownersclub.co.uk/rsocbb...p?p=2731814151

However they seem to think your name is Virgin Media Boy! Bloody amateurs :D

Mr Banana 09-05-2013 11:58

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Free to BT bb customers and 15 quid for hd and 12 in sd to others. No mention of VM in press release

Chad 09-05-2013 12:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35569810)
Free to BT bb customers and 15 quid for hd and 12 in sd to others. No mention of VM in press release

http://www.btplc.com/News/Articles/S...2-3CDBC4D95929

"Satellite customers who take BT broadband will get BT Sport for free, whilst those who don’t can still get the service from BT in high definition for £15 per month or in standard definition for £12. BT will make it clear to those customers they can save substantial sums by switching their broadband back to BT. Satellite customers who sign up before August 1 2013 will see the £3 per month supplement for HD waived for a year."

"To encourage people to switch, BT is offering new customers BT Infinity, its flagship superfast fibre product, from just £15 per month or copper broadband from just £10.00"

So you don't even need to take infinity to get the channels for free. Very interesting for SKY customers.

colin25 09-05-2013 12:22

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To encourage people to switch, BT is offering new customers BT Infinity, its flagship superfast fibre product, from just £15 per month or copper broadband from just £10 1.

I will need to think about infinity...as I was anyway

coulsontom 09-05-2013 12:25

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*Switches to Sky and BT*

denphone 09-05-2013 12:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35569810)
Free to BT bb customers and 15 quid for hd and 12 in sd to others. No mention of VM in press release

Pathetic.

Chad 09-05-2013 12:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35569818)
To encourage people to switch, BT is offering new customers BT Infinity, its flagship superfast fibre product, from just £15 per month or copper broadband from just £10 1.

I will need to think about infinity...as I was anyway

Yeah I agree. £15.00 for infinity plus BT Sports in HD is not to be sniffed at.

Come August I've only got 5 months left on my SKY broadband contract. As I'm only paying £3.75 per month I'd be more than happy to cancel early paying the remaining £18.75 up front.

What speeds can you get from BT copper broadband? Will they be similar to the speeds I get now from SKY's broadband? If so I could actually save money from this deal. I pay £10.00 for ESPN currently plus £3.75 for my broadband.

coulsontom 09-05-2013 12:35

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So it's £15 plus roughly £15 line rental. Plus Sky World = £95 ish.

Plus if Sky do their half-price deals as expected to compete, then it could be a very cheap year costing £62!

That's like a saving of over £600 from what we pay / year on VIP atm

---------- Post added at 12:35 ---------- Previous post was at 12:31 ----------

A caveat, those £10 and £15 BB packages are limited. Infinity limited to 40gb. The unlimited one costs £26.

But it's half price for 6 months, and you can get unlimited upto16mb for £16.

Chad 09-05-2013 12:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coulsontom (Post 35569824)
So it's £15 plus roughly £15 line rental. Plus Sky World = £95 ish.

Plus if Sky do their half-price deals as expected to compete, then it could be a very cheap year costing £62!

That's like a saving of over £600 from what we pay / year on VIP atm

Ah yeas just noticed that at the bottom of the press release:

"Customers will need to pay a monthly line rental fee."

Line rental is £15.45 per month from BT.

---------- Post added at 12:40 ---------- Previous post was at 12:36 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by coulsontom (Post 35569824)
A caveat, those £10 and £15 BB packages are limited. Infinity limited to 40gb. The unlimited one costs £26.

But it's half price for 6 months, and you can get unlimited upto16mb for £16.

Noticed BT's Unlimited 16mb broadband is currently free for the first 6 months.

coulsontom 09-05-2013 12:42

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ah yes, free for 6 months I mean't correct.

Unless your life depends on Virgins broadband, and if you watch football, then there's no logical reason not to take up the offer.
Essentially, they're offering BT Sport for the cost of your BB.

Chad 09-05-2013 12:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coulsontom (Post 35569830)
ah yes, free for 6 months I mean't correct.

Unless your life depends on Virgins broadband, and if you watch football, then there's no logical reason not to take up the offer.
Essentially, they're offering BT Sport for the cost of your BB.

Exactly. Now is a great time to be out of contract with SKY and Virgin.

colin25 09-05-2013 12:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coulsontom (Post 35569830)
ah yes, free for 6 months I mean't correct.

Unless your life depends on Virgins broadband, and if you watch football, then there's no logical reason not to take up the offer.
Essentially, they're offering BT Sport for the cost of your BB.

Yes, that was my thinking too

Mr Banana 09-05-2013 12:51

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Sky might put a spanner in the works by not allowing BT to carry sky sports though

andy_m 09-05-2013 12:51

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If you live in an area where BT offer a decent broadband product.

coulsontom 09-05-2013 12:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35569840)
Sky might put a spanner in the works by not allowing BT to carry sky sports though

clearly that wouldn't be an issue.
BT aren't going to go back on their word to customers it would breach the contract terms

denphone 09-05-2013 12:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35569836)
Exactly. Now is a great time to be out of contract with SKY and Virgin.

Be careful Chad old boy as there is usually plenty of devil in the detail and what might seem a good offer now might in the long run not be as good as it looks.:)

coulsontom 09-05-2013 12:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35569844)
Be careful Chad old boy as there is usually plenty of devil in the detail and what might seem a good offer now might in the long run not be as good as it looks.:)

Such as?
BB free for 6 months
BT Sport free, £3 thereafter(if want hd)

denphone 09-05-2013 12:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coulsontom (Post 35569845)
Such as?
BB free for 6 months
BT Sport free, £3 thereafter(if want hd)

Hmmm free in the short term but one suspects dearer in the medium to longer term.

Chad 09-05-2013 12:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coulsontom (Post 35569824)
Plus if Sky do their half-price deals as expected to compete, then it could be a very cheap year costing £62!

Very true. As posted the other day, SKY are expected to release over 100,000 12 month half price codes in the summer. Here is what you could pay, based on the deal I have:

£27.75 For SKY World (SKY Sports and SKY Movies included)
£5.12 for HD package
£15.45 BT line rental
£15.00 for BT Broadband (BT Sports included)

= £66.32 per month for a year then back to full price. Of course you could then cancel some services, being out of contract, and look elsewhere for a better deal.

If BT Sports isn't added to the XL or VIP package on Virgin, things face getting real expensive. A VIP customer who wants BT Sports in HD is facing a monthly subscription fee of almost £129.00 per month, plus £2 or £3 extra being the rumored price increase for SKY Sports in the summer. Surely nobody thinks almost £132.00 per month for TV, broadband and telephone is good value? Especially if you can get a similar service for half the price. What is more important? Your bank balance or custom to Virgin?

coulsontom 09-05-2013 12:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35569847)
Hmmm free in the short term but one suspects dearer in the medium to longer term.

If they up the price after the initial contract term and you're not happy, you can always cancel

denphone 09-05-2013 13:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35569848)
Very true. As posted the other day, SKY are expected to release over 100,000 12 month half price codes in the summer. Here is what you could pay, based on the deal I have:

£27.75 For SKY World (SKY Sports and SKY Movies included)
£5.12 for HD package
£15.45 BT line rental
£15.00 for BT Broadband (BT Sports included)

= £66.32 per month

If BT Sports isn't added to the XL or VIP package on Virgin, things face getting real expensive. A VIP customer who wants BT Sports in HD is facing a monthly subscription fee of almost £129.00 per month, plus £2 or £3 extra being the rumored price increase for SKY Sports in the summer. Surely nobody thinks almost £132.00 per month for TV, broadband and telephone is good value?

But Virgin have yet to make their move yet but one suspects when they do we could be in for a unexpected surprise.

coulsontom 09-05-2013 13:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35569848)
Very true. As posted the other day, SKY are expected to release over 100,000 12 month half price codes in the summer. Here is what you could pay, based on the deal I have:

£27.75 For SKY World (SKY Sports and SKY Movies included)
£5.12 for HD package
£15.45 BT line rental
£15.00 for BT Broadband (BT Sports included)

= £66.32 per month

If BT Sports isn't added to the XL or VIP package on Virgin, things face getting real expensive. A VIP customer who wants BT Sports in HD is facing a monthly subscription fee of almost £129.00 per month, plus £2 or £3 extra being the rumored price increase for SKY Sports in the summer. Surely nobody thinks almost £132.00 per month for TV, broadband and telephone is good value?

I thought Sky world was £65.75
And that £15 is capped at 40gb

Still get £66.95 as cost for sky world 1/2p, bt upto16mb unlim

kop32 09-05-2013 13:03

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35569847)
Hmmm free in the short term but one suspects dearer in the medium to longer term.

Den, BT Sport prices out now as at 12:00 midday,check here http://www.bt.com/sport/

No mention of Virgin Media though......probably "coming soon"

coulsontom 09-05-2013 13:05

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Yes the only raw deal is u can no longer get sky sports through bt

Chad 09-05-2013 13:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35569851)
But Virgin have yet to make their move yet but one suspects when they do we could be in for a unexpected surprise.

Very true however based on the model put out by BT today, and the total lack of any news about a deal with Virgin, I'm finding it more and more difficult to think what rabbit Virgin will pull out the hat.

People are getting the new channels for free from BT if they take £10.00 broadband and line rental. This deal is open to BT and SKY customers. BT are making the channel very cheap and accessible. Tucking BT Sports into the XL or VIP package is counter productive to BT's selling technique. Virgin would need to stick BT Sports in the M+ package or free with Virgins broadband to make it equally attractive.

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Originally Posted by kop32 (Post 35569853)
Den, BT Sport prices out now as at 12:00 midday,check here http://www.bt.com/sport/

No mention of Virgin Media though......probably "coming soon"

I suspect something is coming soon.

Noticed BT's Twitter page has plenty of virgin customers asking questions. Virgin have then tweeted:

"Hey there, why not head on over to here http://virg.in/BTSport and sign up for any updates. IP"

paultrademark 09-05-2013 13:13

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So when should we expect VM to announce their BT Sports deals?

I suspect it will be a while yet now, so BT can maximise their offer and sign up loads of out of contract customers.

muppetman11 09-05-2013 13:14

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I agree with you Chad as a strategy its a blinder the only reason I'm not tempted is purely no infinity in my area and last time I had BT Broadband contention was an issue some nights.

paul nolan 09-05-2013 13:24

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I'm certainly not switching suppliers for the few Saints Premier League Games that will be amongst their 38 Premier League Games.

If its made available to me on Virgin, I'll pay for it. If not, sometimes you just happen to stumble upon streams that some nefarious person has posted online.

Chad 09-05-2013 13:25

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35569860)
I agree with you Chad as a strategy its a blinder the only reason I'm not tempted is purely no infinity in my area and last time I had BT Broadband contention was an issue some nights.

Someone told us weeks ago in the SKY thread that they had participated in a BT focus group which highlighted BT's intention to offer the channel free with their broadband to BT and SKY customers. I can't remember the original posters name however full credit to them for giving us the heads up weeks in advance.

paultrademark 09-05-2013 13:26

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Do we think Sky customers who get these BT Sports channels will be available via Sky Go?

kop32 09-05-2013 13:28

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Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35569869)
Do we think Sky customers who get these BT Sports channels will be available via Sky Go?

Don't think so Paul as BT are launching their own app

Chad 09-05-2013 13:29

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Originally Posted by paul nolan (Post 35569867)
If not, sometimes you just happen to stumble upon streams that some nefarious person has posted online.

I tend to find you have to be searching for illegal streams to "stumble upon" them :D

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Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35569869)
Do we think Sky customers who get these BT Sports channels will be available via Sky Go?

It is unlikely unless a carriage deal is signed between BT and SKY. It looks like a carriage deal between the 2 is more unlikely than ever.

coulsontom 09-05-2013 13:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paul nolan (Post 35569867)
I'm certainly not switching suppliers for the few Saints Premier League Games that will be amongst their 38 Premier League Games.

If its made available to me on Virgin, I'll pay for it. If not, sometimes you just happen to stumble upon streams that some nefarious person has posted online.

Why pay?

nstokes 09-05-2013 13:40

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I am thinking of cancelling phone and BB with Sky and getting BT Inifitey (if availbe in area), need to calculate the costs and see which works best as i get free phone from Sky and only pay line retanl and £7.50 for BB but now ive moved its only 6MB

muppetman11 09-05-2013 13:58

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BT's strategy is clearly to increase BB numbers and their biggest 2 rivals are Sky and VM , on the face of it BT's offer for free BT Sports looks a good one especially for those who can get Infinity however I wouldn't at all be shocked to see Sky and VM react with new deals for instance Sky could bundle Sky Go Extra , HD charge , multiroom discounts in for triple play customers I certainly won't be making any knee jerk reactions just yet.

Henkesghost 09-05-2013 14:18

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For me Virgin have to offer xl customers something here. We are losing ESPN which is a reasonably sized part of the xl package attraction, BT are offering their sports free with BB. If there is no price reduction or an offer of a heavily discounted subscription available to BT sport I'll be pretty :mad::mad::mad:

It's a no brainer imo. There is no way they can justify charging the same price for xl without ESPN

Mr Banana 09-05-2013 14:20

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Interesting how the markets have reacted to this news. BT down 2.5%, Sky down 6% andnTalk Talk down 9%. All of investment houses saying Sky will have to reduce their prices now , so could be the start of a price war which will be good for customers

paul nolan 09-05-2013 14:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coulsontom (Post 35569877)
Why pay?

Because if the high def version is available for me to buy, its certainly better to have it on the TV. I certainly haven't got a problem in paying a fee for that.

I have got a problem with being blackmailed into getting a standard phone line installed so i can get BT services.

coulsontom 09-05-2013 14:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35569888)
BT's strategy is clearly to increase BB numbers and their biggest 2 rivals are Sky and VM , on the face of it BT's offer for free BT Sports looks a good one especially for those who can get Infinity however I wouldn't at all be shocked to see Sky and VM react with new deals for instance Sky could bundle Sky Go Extra , HD charge , multiroom discounts in for triple play customers I certainly won't be making any knee jerk reactions just yet.

How many customers are that bothered about sky go extra?

Actually lowering the prices for the content itself rather than discounting unnecessary add-ons would be the only way to genuinely attract interest

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Originally Posted by paul nolan (Post 35569900)
Because if the high def version is available for me to buy, its certainly better to have it on the TV. I certainly haven't got a problem in paying a fee for that.

I have got a problem with being blackmailed into getting a standard phone line installed so i can get BT services.

I see, you have bb with virgin but no phone line?

colin25 09-05-2013 14:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35569888)
BT's strategy is clearly to increase BB numbers and their biggest 2 rivals are Sky and VM , on the face of it BT's offer for free BT Sports looks a good one especially for those who can get Infinity however I wouldn't at all be shocked to see Sky and VM react with new deals for instance Sky could bundle Sky Go Extra , HD charge , multiroom discounts in for triple play customers I certainly won't be making any knee jerk reactions just yet.

Yes, it is a wait and see.

i am out of contract, so depends on best price. At moment I get all from Sky, but I am a money hore (misspelt because of the kids on here :D ), so will wait and see who gives me best price for content

smallclone 09-05-2013 14:34

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Have Virgin announced if and when they are going to announce that BT Sports will actually be available via Virgin Media?

denphone 09-05-2013 14:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smallclone (Post 35569906)
Have Virgin announced if and when they are going to announce that BT Sports will actually be available via Virgin Media?

Not yet but they will.

muppetman11 09-05-2013 14:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coulsontom (Post 35569901)
How many customers are that bothered about sky go extra?

Actually lowering the prices for the content itself rather than discounting unnecessary add-ons would be the only way to genuinely attract interest

There are many options open to them , they could offer their unlimited £7.50 BB package free to Sky Sports subscribers , I'm sure they'll react if they feel theres an excessive amount of cancellations going through.
Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35569904)
Yes, it is a wait and see.

i am out of contract, so depends on best price. At moment I get all from Sky, but I am a money hore (misspelt because of the kids on here :D ), so will wait and see who gives me best price for content

Exactly the same here mate I'm out of contract however the pain for me is no Infinity in my area so in reality Sky is still probably the best offer.

smallclone 09-05-2013 14:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35569907)
Not yet but they will.

Thanks. Are VM definitely getting BT sports as an option? Or is it all unknown?

paul nolan 09-05-2013 14:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smallclone (Post 35569911)
Thanks. Are VM definitely getting BT sports as an option? Or is it all unknown?

I saw a quote that Talk Talk and Virgin would only start negotiations now, after they became aware of the 'value' of the package.

Henkesghost 09-05-2013 14:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paul nolan (Post 35569917)
I saw a quote that Talk Talk and Virgin would only start negotiations now, after they became aware of the 'value' of the package.


http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/408251/lolololol-o.gif

Virgin's head of negotiations

denphone 09-05-2013 15:01

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By Heck Henke you are younger then l thought.;):D

Gavin-D 09-05-2013 15:11

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BT offers free Premier League football in BSkyB battle

BT is to offer free Premier League football coverage to its broadband customers, the telecoms company has announced. After winning a three-year deal to show 38 Premier League games a season, BT has signalled its intent to challenge BSkyB's dominance of sports pay-TV. BSkyB's shares fell nearly 6% as BT unveiled its plans, which includes a £10-a-month broadband package. BT has 6.3 million broadband customers, but just 750,000 pay-TV customers. The aggressive move is an attempt to establish itself as a major multi-platform provider, offering TV, internet and telephone in one package.

BT Sport's channels will also show 69 live Aviva Premiership rugby matches per season, plus live football from leagues in Germany, France, Italy and Brazil. Chief executive Ian Livingston said: "UK sports fans have had a rough deal for too long. Many have been priced out of the market, but we will change this by giving away BT Sport for free with our broadband. "Sports fans are the winners today."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22462525

Unsurprisingly the Sky news website isn't carrying this story

BT will offer the two new sport channels and ESPN free for the first year to customers who take its broadband products, marking the first serious attempt to combine exclusive TV services and the internet. Customers who do not have BT’s broadband can access BT Sport via Sky’s own platform for £15 per month in HD. Of the 20 million UK households with broadband, more than a quarter already take it from BT. The company said it would make the switching process easier. It has cut the price for fibre broadband, offering superfast speeds, to £15 per month and to conventional broadband to £10 per month. BT claimed the move will “return sport to grassroots fans”, and said it would be “the first time in more than 20 years that weekly live matches from the Barclays Premier League will be free to watch”. There will be 38 live and exclusive football matches from the Barclays Premier League, including 18 of the top fixtures chosen by BT, and up to 69 live rugby matches from the Aviva Premiership, where BT will be the sole broadcaster.

Access to the broadband service will reqire a set-top box, either from YouView or Vision+ box for BT TV, both of which are available via BT.

After the first year, BT Sport will cost £3 per month to BT customers.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...kes-on-TV.html

colin25 09-05-2013 15:14

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I thought that this is bad news for virgin viewers, as they lose ESPN. Looks like BT are gunning more for virgin then sky

Henkesghost 09-05-2013 15:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35569928)
I thought that this is bad news for virgin viewers, as they lose ESPN. Looks like BT are gunning more for virgin then sky

Pfffft! Virgin will come out all water pistols blazing

Chad 09-05-2013 15:19

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The worrying thing is how expensive HD is going to become. Virgin customers who want SKY Movies, SKY Sports and BT Sports in HD may face having to pay £10.00 per month in HD charges! SKY customers who don't move to BT broadband, and take advantage of BT Sports in HD for free for a year, face paying over £13.00 per month!

Jameseh 09-05-2013 15:21

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Hopefully Al Jazeera Sport comes along in 3 years and sorts this mess out.

coulsontom 09-05-2013 15:28

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There'd be something hollow about Al Jazeera doing channels. Surely we should have British companies running TV here.

That's ridiculous though given who owns News Corporation.

I don't understand the people trying to claim that people will be paying more. That's just nonsense.

Jameseh 09-05-2013 15:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coulsontom (Post 35569938)
I don't understand the people trying to claim that people will be paying more. That's just nonsense.

This is CableForum. ESPN is free on Virgin, BT Sport is not.

Simples.

Mr Banana 09-05-2013 15:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35569928)
I thought that this is bad news for virgin viewers, as they lose ESPN. Looks like BT are gunning more for virgin then sky

The markets reckon its aimed at getting Sky customers to move back to BT broad band.


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