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Haven't VM allowed third party apps on TiVo for ages with Spotify etc?

http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/14/t...-apps/?m=false

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As far as Im aware its an iPhone app which also works on the iPad dos now work since Fri 12th when they sent an update for the app that now works with OS 5

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I think this is opening it up more. So anyone can start creating apps for Tivo, they don't have to have a commercial agreement to do so. Although Tivo don't seem to want to just let anything be released, so we won't see 100s of fart applications.

They also seem to be releasing an API for communicating with Tivo, so hopefully it will mean we see more iPhone and Web Apps from third partys.

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Yes it does!

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Got the new app and I can't find any option to choose which TiVo to record on.

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Thanks for confirming Andy. Hurry up VM!

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Just been playing about with the bundle builder on the Virgin website, to see package prices etc...

I was shocked at some of the pricing. If you want TiVo as your main box you pay £5.00 per month for it. If however you want a second TiVo box, say for your bedroom, the second box will cost a further £11.50. Surely Virgin aren't charging people £16.50 per month to have 2 boxes? Maybe I'm missing something as that doesn't seem right.

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£5 TiVo fee per box + £6.50 multiroom = £16.50.

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I would love to know but I don't think I will get the answer is long does it take for a TiVo enabled box to make a profit in rental terms?

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Not really that important but has Tivo changed the screen you see when rebooting? I very rarely reboot, but just done it now and it just stays on a black screen (with a small clock symbol on) and then the the main Tivo menu screen appears. Previously I had the red background with a message on saying something along the lines of 'just a few minutes longer'. I think overall the process may have been a little quicker, but I did think it may have stalled when the black screen stayed there for so long.

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In a word, yes. And you are right that it is quicker.

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Thanks Spiderplant.

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Got to admit when I got Tivo installed bout 6 months ago I thought it was a crock of dung, but must admit prefer it to HD box I had previously. Great for finding stuff that would have passed me by previously. Looks like i was wrong in thinking it was an overhyped hunk of junk.

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Nice to see one of the great legends of the forum as happy as a pig in mud.:)

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Had my third TiVo installed on friday, for the bedroom, after finally saying goodbye to the V+. Ordered a 500 but installer put in a 1TB Samsung box instead. So thats me all TiVo'd up now.

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Yes it is wonderful having all these extra's which the TiVo brings us and l do feel sorry for my old mucker and his minions on the other side.:)

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Be even better when we get the TiVo app;)

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TiVo blows me away sometimes, finding upcoming shows when recordings clash, Spotify, searching and still cant get my head round how my mobile controls YouTube on TiVo!

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Yes it is rather good and works well

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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/10...spat_over_dvr/

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Sorry getting right mess.Trying to link this to my having shares in TiVo. Failing badly. Any Mod able to put together

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I see that TIVO have said that they are going to upgrade the screens on the US version of the box this Autumn, so that the equivalent of the Series Links and Recordings Screens are going to be upgraded to a HD version.

What are the chances that Virgin will upgrade their rubbish SD screens in the near future?

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Quite a good chance I would think, it's not as if they're busy launching channels ;)

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It'll happen as the VM TiVo is based on the core TiVo code. Also some of the HD screen stuff has gone the other way - the HD EPG and Mini Guide were on VM TiVo before the US one

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I hope they do come to VM as I really miss the mini screen when going those SD screens.

Hopefully there will be a way to keep the mini screen there when the Series link screen is processing priority changes you have made; it takes a very long time and the Tivo is unsuable whilst it's doing it. I've got into the habit of switching over to my HTPC while it's processing the changes because it takes so long.

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I posted some links of the new screens on the virgin forums.

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...e/td-p/1521282

:)

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Looks very nice.:tu:

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Putting aside what I think of them.
Would an "upgrade" be free to Virgin or would it cost them ( i.e. as windows 7 to 8 costs users. As is pointed out so many times Virgin are a user of the service not the source supplier) :confused: :D

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Not sure what you mean? VM will have an agreement with TiVo, just as they used to have an agreement with Liberate for the V boxes. This would include updates.

As to the costs and how it's structured, that would be a commercially negotiated agreement - one that won't be made public

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Go on... please tell us what you think of them....

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So & I am not arguing here upgrades are "free" & part of the deal & not subject to negotiation (for that read payment).
I find that a bit silly on TiVo`s part & a great deal on Virgins :rolleyes: Well they had to come out on top some time :p: On the other hand if a payment is expected then I doubt that the upgrade will happen anytime soon ...........However perhaps ...... coming soon fits the bill!!!!

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Why are you trying to make an issue out of something that isn't one. VM TiVo has had multiple updates since it launched, and will continue to do so.

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Maybe he's worried about his Tivo share dividends? :D

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Yes indeed as Victor's usually very vocal as we know.;)

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Looks awful, much better as it is. Why change just for cosmetic reasons?

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The SD screens look better? :confused:

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TiVo are the ones doing the development of the VM firmwares on an ongoing basis. Part of the deal is feature parity.

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Did you not notice the mini TV screen that is now there but is not in the current SD menus?

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Any clues as to what new updates might be in the pipeline?

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Looks like there is still no set date for Multi-Room Streaming being enabled and it looks like next year before we see this one suspects.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...1749623&page=2

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Where do you get that from?

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Perhaps you can reveal to us all a certain timeline for it then?.:)

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It's how long the 'coming weeks' period is that is of concern. Sadly, VM don't have a good reputation in this area.

Apparantly, Sky are due to release their version this year; Surely VM can't let Sky get there first on a USP that should have been VM's months ago?

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No because I don't have one. I was trying to work out where you got your timeline from?

Although saying that, considering it's been tested recently, I'd say it'll be available sooner rather than later

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It was also tested quite a while ago too! It was hard to give it up!!

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How soon is soon Ben but one suspects that question will not have a forthcoming answer.:)

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Do you have a set date for that?

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Its not about Sky SP but about actually when are we going to get a concrete date for Multi Streaming rather then the vague quagmire of answers that its coming soon we seem to get constantly.

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Of course I don't but you're missing the point.

Given that Sky have more TV channels and are now offering fibre BB, VM need all the USP's they can get. Tivo to tivo box communication was enabled about a year ago. Why haven't VM got their finger out and got multiroom streaming emabled before now, to give them a nice USP. Given that Sky have the same functionality planned, the longer VM delay with this, the shorter lived the USP associated with it will be.

This, coupled with the ipad app taking two years when Sky already have one, makes VM look incompetent in this area.

VM have many, many good points, but lack of channels and slowness to deliver promised functionality are two bad ones. Just my view, as someone who is free to both praise and critisize VM.

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No, I'm making the point. Sky don't give away their plans in advance - why should VM? It's all about competitive advantage.

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But the trouble with that is any competitive advantage disappears up the chimney as by the time its released big bad Sky have already released their version thus leaving Virgin lagging behind as usual..

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But I don't expect a specific date; I know they'll never release that. I'm complaining that Multiroom streaming and ipad have taken far too long, and that "In the coming weeks" is a meaningless statement given VM's track record for delivering things.

Multiroom streaming is functionality where VM could have been way ahead of Sky; Tivo boxes could talk to each other after the 15.2 update a year ago, but VM seem to have let that time advantage slip away.

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And if they released it too early people would be complaining about them rushing out software that wasn't "ready for primetime" like they did when TiVo was originally released (after loads of posts here saying "I want TiVo nooowwwww!!!!!").

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Tivo worked for me from the getgo; I could never understand what people were moaning about.

But no one is arguing that things should be released before they are ready; they are arguing about the amount of time it takes VM to get to that 'ready' state.

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No red button, only 2 tuners, SD picture problems…

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I got one of the first releases of Tivo to current VM customers in April 2011 (new customers had to wait unril June) and there were 3 tuners from the getgo and SD picture was fine.

Red button was missing but if you wanted red button, you could stay on V+. Delaying the Tivo launch until red button was on there, would have made no sense; It would have not got tivo to those who wanted red button any faster, but would have delayed it, for no good reason, for those who didn't care about red button.


I do think VM could have made sure that people were aware of that initial lack of red button.

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Some customers got TiVo before then, and it only had 2 tuners working.

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I bet it was, It's by far my most eagerly anticipated feature!! :D

Are you able to give anymore details of the TiVo's implementation of Multi Room Streaming?

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True, but it wasn't officially released so that any current customer could have it until April, when all 3 tuners were available.

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It worked for everyone for a few hours a few weeks ago and it seemed to work perfectly. You just went to the other box, which is listed in your planned recordings, pressed OK and up came a list of recordings on the other box and you just played them as normal.

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Refer back to post #1151 for the point I was making. ;)

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If you get something pre-release, then it is possible that it may have some features not quite right; you should accept that when you agree to have it in a pre official release state.

I got one of the first officially released ones which had 3 recordable tuners and no problems, so I don't see your point.

Did the pre-release ones have just 2 tuners or 3 but only 2 recorded?

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They've got all three tuners, and one was activated by an update sometime after release.

I agree, Btw, whether or not people would moan about deficiencies in an early release, this has still taken far too long. Frankly, Virgin should be embarrassed.

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After announcing that the XBox SmartGlass app wouldn't be available for Android devices until 2013, Microsoft released it last night! :shocked: And its bloody nice too!

If only VM would surprise us like that.

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Indeed it would be nice if it just arrived on time but VM are not exactly practised in the art of that it seems.

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To be totally honest, l don't think VM give a damn about what customer feel or think about there services.

I recently spoke with there customer services and told them about the problem that myself and my mother in law were having on our TiVo boxes, and they changed both boxes and we lost everything that we had recorded.

And they did not seem to care about it either. I suppose the big thing about Sky is that there technology is far better than VM - sad to say.

I may criticise VM a lot over the products,but l have found that they are not interested in the customer. My honest opinion is that they should get out of the TV side and just concentrate on BB and the phone.

I bet Sir Richard Branson must be kicking himself that his famous 'Virgin' brand is being slagged off so much - only due to the fact it is being run by incompetent directors who play golf everyday. And before members say go back to Sky, well l would today if my wife would allow it.

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As a matter of interest, Arthur, what is it that your wife likes so much about VM?

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Or dislikes about $ky?

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Or sees in you?

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Sorry! Joke! Couldn't resist...

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Arthur, why do you have to be so disrespectful to people you know nothing about. Have you ever seen pictures of Neil Berkett playing golf? No, because he doesn't play the game.

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Exactly the same as would happen if a Sky box was swapped. Except VM will never charge you for it.

Maybe Arthur is thinking of someone else? :)

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TIVO are updating their retail boxes with the new HD screens just days after announcing the update, wow thats fast! Along with the HD screens it also gives customers the ability to name their machine, that could be really useful when Virgin turn on the streaming ability instead of the current random letters and numbers

http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/30/t...ore-hd-menu-s/

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From the link that toady posted

http://blog.tivo.com/2012/10/fall-up...premiere-dvrs/

Looks really good; hope we get it soon.

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Indeed lets start the countdown now.;)

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VMs software is all custom why do you expect it will happen at all?

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I really do not care about cosmetic upgrades to the TiVo. As I read it this was an upgrade to the service in the US. As I understand this has little bearing on the service Virgin pays for. Therefore it begged the question do upgrades in the USA carry over automatically to UK or are they piece meal or even only if requested & paid for. As for divided you are right I care. So get your extra TiVos today !!!!

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It's not all custom. It's based on the core TiVo code, so what changes in the US will eventually make it over here

It's an upgrade to the core TiVo code - which will have a bearing on what Virgin get

In some respects it's the same as Android. Everyone has access to the core code updates, but then the different handset makers add their own tweaks on top

Except in the case of VM TiVo, it's TiVo that make the changes to the core code for VM

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As someone with shares, I thought that you would have been a litte more informed and realise that VMs tivo uses the core tivo software and thus we will get the updates, which are functional, not jst cosmetic.

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As a trust we have shares in Aerospace, car manufacturers, steel, chemicals ,banks, hospitals and things I do not even understand what they are for :dozey:
Brought & sold by the family stock brokers on behalf of trusts. I happened to mention in passing TiVo, to my brother,whom is in day, today control of this part of the family business. He said that we had brought shares on the back of a legal settlement. For all I know or in fact really care the shares could have well been sold again.

As to general TiVo functions it works as well as I would want. ( stated many times before I find a lot of its functions of no use what so ever) English language broadcasts on S4C being the exception & they are "coming soon" :rolleyes: .
I have not great interest in updates, however I fully accept that they would be of use to other people. ;) If one is of use great, but not concerned otherwise. Sorry if this upsets you :D

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I do, its so annoying to lose the live stream in the top left corner when going into some of the old menus to manage your links for example

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Sorry I really have NO idea what you are referring to. :dozey:However I trust that it is sorted out soon :)

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Try editing a series link, the menu is in SD so all the text is overly large and the window in the top right hand corner disappears.

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Just think of all that Tivo investment money, that could have been used to pay you extra dividends, being spent on something you weren't even aware was missing! :D

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Whatttt :erm: :D

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Doubt it was bought for the dividend - but you never know :dozey:. I never ask - Would get a long detailed explanation- Still get headache thinking about when I asked about a government bond issue years ago.:confused: As long as the audit is healthy & they( auditors) are happy - so am I :D

As I said before a lot of the bells & whistles on TiVo are wasted on me:D Hence why I would not pay a premium to have it.

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I remain pleased with my TIVO, but when I set it to record and no 'record' sign comes up, I have to hunt around to see if it has recorded the programme at a different day and time. It would be useful if it told you when it couldn't record at that time, and pointed out where the new recording could be found. If it couldn't find an alternative, it should just tell you that.

I would find that a big + for my overall TIVO experience.

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As an experiment I think you should give it a month where you just trust it completely. If no record sign shows up don't look around to find out when it has scheduled the recording for, but trust that its been done. In fact, trust it to handle everything you ask of it. See if you miss anything. Start tomorrow. Call it chillvember. Report back!

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I agree, let the TiVo box do its work and you will find it will run smoothly with little to no input needed. I have wishlists setup for numerous programmes, and if an episode has been shown in the previous 28 days it won't record it. Ditto, if I already have 3 programmes recording at one time, it will record on a +1 channel if one exists, or look for the next time the programme is on and record that.

It's like everything, once you know your way around the box and understand how it works, you will only have the odd occasion where things don't record. One word of advice though, make sure you set all your series links to delete when I'm finished.

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It will only do that for whishlists. Series links apply to the channel it was set up on only, so it will record a repeat, but not look for the +1 if it was set up on the 'normal time' channel.

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You are quite correct, I failed to make that clear in my post. Thanks.

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I live in Letchworth and my local TV mast is Sandy and on the old box I could get BBC East now I seem to be stuck with London TV

London info is not relevant to me and I miss out on local TV. The old V+ had the option for BBC East but not on the TiVo

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Your region (Luton headend) should have BBC1 Anglia on 858, as well as the South East one on 101. This has not changed for years, and V+ and TiVo get the same channels.

If 858 is currently showing South East, it's likely there is a temporary fault with Anglia and they have switched to a backup feed.

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So do TiVo decide what to change or is it at the request of Virgin. Can you see whats coming next :dozey:

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What I meant was that any changes to the code are written by TiVo themselves. VM don't have any core coders directly employed.

However in regards to what is changed I'd say it's mostly TiVo, however VM can ask for changes too.

The development of the HD EPG, the mini guide and some other bits were driven (and probably paid for) by VM, yet are now in the US TiVo box

Both companies though will probably look at the benefit and cost of any change before deciding whether to do it or not.

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I have had an update which now gives me 858 ok but the iPhone app that allows you to record will only work if set to London area so again I miss out on regional programmes. I have just been speaking to a Tech in Wales who at first said your area is London. It was only when I said "what would you do if you could not view local programmes only news from London and a Tech told you "No London was correct" he's now looking into the problem.

When I first got the TiVo box I phoned the help line as the iPhone app was not working as they had an issue with iOS 6 but they did confirm I needed to be on East of England for the programmes, now it would seem they have fixed the issue with iOS 6 but it will only work if set for London. :mad: Nothing wrong with London I hear you say, the fine people of London are part of life's rich tapestry. The poorly woven part. ;) :D

Oh I forgot to say they have a bug of sort with the update it locks the TiVo box and does not re-set. I pulled the plug after 60min but how long should it take to re-boot after the update??

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Have got Walking Dead, American Horror Story, Modern Family and The Middle on a series link. Checked on my planned recordings and none of them are now scheduled to record :( Anyone any ideas why?

Tried re setting the series links again but showing only recording next episode none after that :(

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http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...ekend-get.html

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Thanks passingbat kind of you to reply. Cheers :)

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Strange thing on my series links:

Was watching the TV last night, and noticed the recording light was not on, when I was expecting it to be recording Merlin.

Checked my future recordings and all but three weren't showing.
Rebooted, same problem.

All the series links involved are set to new only, changed to new and reruns
and are now all set to record! Luckily Mrs. D&C watched Strictly live, or all hell would have broken loose!!

Have Virgin changed something I don't know about, everything was fine until last night. All Friday's programmes were OK.

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Did you read the previous two posts? ;):D

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Have now
Thanks
:dunce:

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Looks like my Tivo is fixed. All future records showing again :)

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Excellent news Henke.:tu:

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Cheers Den, enjoy the footy