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He might not like the English but the yes campaign is slowly becoming more and more bitter and divisive with everything wrong in Scotland, and it's a long list, being blamed on the English to try and scrape some votes from those who think Braveheart was a historical documentary.

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:rofl:

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Have a lot of friends in Scotland and not one is voting yes, face it Jimi, you are in the mad minority.

If it wasn't for my friends up there I wish you would get the yes vote then I could could laugh at you as Scotland sank faster than the titanic. Then when you come back with the begging bowl, we could all respond with a massive -mod edit-.

mind your language

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Leaving if late, they must be confident

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:rofl:

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So the smug fat one has really lost all sense of reality. Part of his speech at the SNP conference from this week....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-26997887

He really doesn't have a clue. Still no idea what currency we would use or any hard facts but apparently the BT campaign has lost touch with reality!! and their campaign is positive and hopeful hahaha:o:

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It's all very reminiscent of Gordon Brown's increasingly delusional outpourings when the writing was on the wall.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

In what respect?

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Half million quid on a golf trip, quicker independence is gained the better, we have enough leeches in westminster

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...-spending.html

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??????????

I take it that's sarcasm?

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More predictions of doom.

Barely at the drawing board stage and...

"Expensive plans to speed rail commuters from London to Glasgow and Edinburgh in under three hours would be scrapped if Scotland votes for independence, a cabinet minister has warned."

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Sounds fair - I can't see the French paying for a TGV line to Berlin....

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Common sense really, if Salmond gets his way we are on our own and have to pay our way.

It's ok. The magic money/oil tree will provide for all.

Yep. Although if it was going the other way...

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Exactly.

In reality you can't lose what you don't have in the first place.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Oh yes, I'm a massive fan of public funds being abused after all. Tbh I swing between pro independence and complete indifference so after all the lies and ineptitude the snp have shown if the Scots still vote for them after their hands are caught in the cookie jar then frankly they'll get all they deserve.

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http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...orge-robertson

Scottish independence: Better Together is truly scraping the barrel now
George Robertson and his ilk are hardly of the calibre needed to boost the campaign against independence



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And this story warms my heart,taken from The Herald today.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/commen...tland.23946243

Goodbye to Labour complacency and 'forces of darkness' ... hello new Scotland

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Jimi what will you do if (when) it all goes wrong?

Clearly you're full of confidence, have you got a Plan B if it doesn't work out?

As an Englishman myself, I'm not terribly bothered either way,and doubt the decision, whatever way it falls will make an ounce of difference to my life.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Labour will always have a chance of getting stronger if the independence vote is yes jimi. Especially when the SNP double up to support them. http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1397413930

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Not sure what those stories are trying to say to be honest.

After the nonsense Fat Eck was spouting at the SNP conf I linked to earlier they are the ones scraping the barrel. No plan B and also no real concrete plan A.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sites/...8/21785698.jpg

http://www.heraldscotland.com/politi...tials.21774204

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Rent a nat? :D

Which one's Jimi? :)

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Please don't point him out i don't want to be sick twice today :LOL:

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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1397420387 http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1397420387 http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1397420387 http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1397420555:D

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:rofl:

I reckon Salmond's crew are handing out disguises to rent a nat.

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:D

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Good tae see you join the debate mate.
I have no worries if there's no plan b simply because we don't need one.
What really sticks in my throat is the utter nonsense that is being spouted by BT.
A few examples,Justine Greening in yesterday's Sunday Times that a yes vote would be a huge blow tae Third World countries,pure nonsense,Scotland ( oh yes we do) donates more per head tae charity than the rest of the U.K.
I won't even start on that ******** of a man? George Robertson,a Lord? Aye right!!!
Passports to enter England,Currency,no chance,we're not getting it,blah blah blah,yes we are.
Trident,you can have it,thank you.
We'd lose tv shows,wow,the **** that comes from the BBC,you can have that tae.
Roaming charges,the guy who thought that up needs tae be certified and licked up for life.
I could go on and on,the list is endless but what I will say is that many folk in Scotland are disheartened by the fact that no matter whether NL or Tories are in power everything is based in London,money wise.
Cornwall wants Independence,word is that Yorkshire wants it tae,I might be wrong but the break up will happen eventually,maybe not in my lifetime but it will come.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

It won't happen. When your lot and ours were offered devolution and all we managed was a glorified town council (the Welsh Assembly) it was rumoured that back then that for some reason Yorkshire wanted its own assembly, followed by some other regions. It didn't materialise in those days and it won't now.

In all seriousness, you're clearly very confident of a Yes result but have you actually considered what you (personally, not the Scots) will do if it's a 'no'? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm genuinely interested. I'm sure even AS has some sort of contingency plan. If it doesn't go your way I'm hoping you'll accept the result and not look to blame any sort of conspiracy etc, I'm fairly certain enough people have access to the internet to check on whatever claims are being made and judge for themselves if they're real.

If it turns out as a 'no' (I'm not too bothered either way but I think I'd prefer a United Kingdom) it's unlikely another vote will be allowed for many years, decades even. What will you do in the meantime?

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Labour held a referendum on regional devolution in the northeast IIRC - it failed.

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Yes men really don't listen do they? You've been told a few times. Ow the the pound won't be kept and that Scotland will have different taxes and rates.

Scotland would be a separate Country so they could require border checks to enter England Ireland and Wales.

Also don't be silly. Everything needs a plan B. Fat Alex doesn't even have a proper plan A.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Jimi's just articulated the SNP's new referendum slogan:

"Plan B? We haven't got a Plan A!"

:D

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:LOL:

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http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1397488974 http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1397488974 http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1397488974

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If it all goes tits up then so be it,I'm pretty sure it will be hard going,there's no doubt about it whatsoever,but we will have tae knuckle down,take the good with the bad,it holds no fears for me at all.
I've been slagged something awful in recent months but instead of disappearing I give as good as I get though some of it has been hostile,but hey,that's the nature of message boards.
Another forum I'm on,there's a solitary BT voter who's been getting it in the neck,I've told the YES voters that he's entitled tae his opinion like everyone else,fair doos tae him.



Stephen,seriously,the pound WILL be kept as our currancy,border checks,you cannot be serious,without being cheeky,i'm beginning tae think you are out of your depth on this subject.

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Sticks and stones may break my bones but whips n chains excite me.;)

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Except the SNP plan involves Scotland being part of the EU, being a new EU member involves accepting the Euro. Forgetting for a second that even the most optimistic fiscal outlook for iScotland would make it in-illegible for euro membership why would they accept an opt out?

Of course if Salmond actually has any hard and fast evidence that this would happen he could publish it.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

I'm sorry but what????? So despite proof and confirmation from the Bank of England, Westminster and other sources that they WILL NOT enter into a currency union with an IScotland, you still think there will be? I fail to understand your logic and also claims that I am out of my depth. Unlike you I am 100% Scottish and fully understand.

As for the border checks, they could happen.

Honestly you just sound like Salmond, refusing to accept the facts and also failing to back up your claims with facts or even a plan B.

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This!!

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Btw Stephen,here's a few more funny stories which eminated from down south,I give you Andy Burnham with the hilarious story that Scots will drive on the opposite side of the road.:)
The utterly barmy Lord Fraser with this...
Mr Fraser insisted that if the Scottish people voted in favour of Scottish independence, the country would be left undefended. He expressed his fear that enemies of the rump-UK would then be able to use Scotland as a base for launching air strikes, adding: "If that were to happen what alternative would England have but to come and bomb the hell out of Glasgow airport and Edinburgh airport.":)

http://www.heraldscotland.com/politi...ports.17005697
Then we have loony George Galloway coming out with If Scotland had been an independent country in the 1930s we would all be speaking German.

Up next we have the latest attempt from BT,no,its not April 1st.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...pspioihza5.jpg
Conveniently ommiting the wages earned in those countries compared tae ours.

Goodnight.

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The Little Englanders are more than welcome tae move out of the EU,that's their prerogative,me,I'd rather stay in it despite the amount of money that has been stolen but is it any worse than what England has stolen from Scotland,I don't think so.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

So you want to leave the UK but yet remain in the EU? Thats just plain daft. especially as an IScotland wouldn't be allowed to join the EU.

Also those stories yet again do not have any stories or evidence to back up or confirm any of the Yes campaigns so called 'plans' all you are doing is trying to shift the focus away from the fact that there are no actual plans.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Stephen,forget what Alistair Carmichael said,Scotland will be like a shareholder once we gain Independence.
Btw,

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Scotland has every right to rejoin the EU,this will happen once we break free,sadly if we are still stuck with the rest of the UK then we'll need tae accept it.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

So it will will it?

Scotsman
Telegraph

So unless all member states agree, then Scotland wouldn't be joining the EU.

Oh and part of that also confirms that there may well be Border checks.

Facts, there are rather interesting.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

It would have every right to APPLY to join the EU. And as a new member it would have to accept the Euro (Which would mean BIG cuts in spending to get within deficit limits), Schengen and numerous other impositions that wold leave Scotland nowhere near independent as I would think of it.

So really you want to go from a union that's lasted hundreds of years, where Scotland has arguably a disproportionate voice, to one that's a decade or so old and would have Scotland as a VERY junior member?

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Strikes me very much of a 'be careful what you wish for - you might just get it'

Thing is, once you've got it, you may very well not want it...

Me? I'm just reaching for the popcorn and watching with humour, it's better than the telly!

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Is Jimi the best 'ambassador' the 'Yes' people can come up with around these parts? :D

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Course he would 'cos he's really thought this all through... :D

Salmond's delusions of grandeur seem to have extended to (and depend upon) an Independent Scotland being able to dictate what it wants from the rest of the world in spite of all the evidence to the contrary.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

You'd also have to agree to join the Euro. So that'd be a substantial proportion of laws made elsewhere and having no control of currency.

The point of this referendum is... ?

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Beats me. The SNP have always been very Pro-EU and it mystifies me why they are so desperate to go from one union to another.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Because the elephant in the room is the Seps' visceral hatred of England and the English. Eck has worked very, very hard to bury that inconvenient fact to the point where there are now plenty of useful (English) idiots in Scotland that cheer on the idea of "independence", but that simmering, festering hatred is, beneath it all, what this is all about.

The Seps know, and loathe, the fact that the Union with the English gives Scotland an economic stability it would lack if it were truly out in the world on its own so they seek to replace that union with one of a different kind. Union with the Brussels machine, as a very junior partner with little influence, would ensure "independent" Scotland would be anything but. But Brussels isn't London, and that's all that matters.

Anyone But England, as they say. How sad that there are people who want to take a taunt off the football terraces and actually apply it to their entire national future.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

And that, boys & girls is probably the most honest thing said in the entire thread.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

I definitely do not want Independence and the largest majority don,t want it either, Salmon only wants to go down in the history books if he wins. Too many things could go wrong and we could not go it alone. We need to stick together,

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Nail hit on head methinks. What else could account for such irrational, illogical and destructive behaviour?

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Interesting (if not controversial).

"Dumping a share of the UK's debt would be worth twice as much to an independent Scotland as North Sea oil, academics have said.

It would improve the nation's fiscal balance from an otherwise poor outlook, the Glasgow University report said.

Scottish ministers said it demonstrated Scotland's strong position in the event of a referendum "Yes" vote".

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Devil's always in the detail, isn't it ...

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Heaven forbid in the event that they arrive at that juncture that they do it through "amicable negotiations" then.

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Not sure under what circumstance the UK will amicably decide to allow Scotland for forgo all the debt.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

tbf, the SNP's view of 'amicable' seems to be 'what they want'.....

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

These things remain to be seen - based on the eventual outcome of the referendum.

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Mmmmm - wait for the outcome of the vote before negotiating terms.

So, if "Yes" win, and if Rest of the UK don't agree with the SNP requirements raised during the negotiations, no matter how outrageous they are, Alex et al can invoke "will of the people", even though "the people" didn't know the specifics.

Sounds like a blank cheque (politically) for the SNP if they win.....

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

If they do win & they 'get everything they want' it'll only be very short term gain. If they default on any debt wonder how that'll affect their countrywide credit rating. Would you want to lend them any money?

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

The SNP's plan for a post-Yes vote is to blame everything on Westminster and/or London when they don't get everything they've promised their electorate. You can never go wrong blaming London.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

You noticed that too ;) Their whole argument seems to be predicated on them getting everything they want as and when they want it. Given that attitude, why on Earth would the EU (or anyone else for that matter) be inclined to accept them into their club? :D

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

If they are prepared to renegade on their debts, why should the EU accept them in?

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

It might be funny if they leave the UK to 'get rid of the English' and then we veto them when they apply to join the EU...

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Because big Eck says so. He's also got promises and assurances that not only will Scotland be welcomed and fast tracked into the EU we can choose to only take the bits of EU law we want as well as keeping the pound.

The only problem is the assurances are secret so he can't show anyone till after the vote and anyone who says otherwise is a bully.

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This video will save the union: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOIILuMzelE

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Mmmmmm - pretty much so, yes.

The 2012 Memorandum requires the signatories to work for the common good and "The two governments are committed to continue to work together constructively in the light of the outcome, whatever it is, in the best interests of the people of Scotland and the rest of the United Kingdom."

Salmond can rant and rave (see: "Negotiate") all he wants in the event that he does actually have a democratic majority voting for independence.

I suspect this is exactly why there is so much negativity being bandied about.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Yet people are buying his nonsense... :confused:

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Salmond can't rant and rave but suddenly the Scottish won't be Westminster's constituents anymore and they'll play hardball to protect British interests. We won't want to concede anymore than we have to. The UK holds most of the cards, the only one Scotland would hold is the threat to walk away from the debt. Their bargaining chips are Oil and Faslane. Both of which seem to be red lines as the oil is to to pay for everything and a nuclear free Scotland is one of their main principles.

It's actually a point I don't think the Yes campaign has grasped. Scotland and Britain would be rival countries. We'll compete for the same businesses. One of Salmond's great ideas is to cut corporation tax and this is lauded as a genius way to grow the Scottish Economy and take business away from London. Yet implicit in this is an idea that Britain would sit back and let that happen. Do they really think the Conservatives will bulk at the idea of cutting corporation tax? When it comes to cutting taxes who would hold their nerve more, the Tories or the SNP?

Too many in the Yes campaign seem to think this is Independence with all the perks and none of the drawbacks. Scotland as it is now but richer. They've been cocooned away from the rough-and-tumble of the world stage and difficult choices instead choosing to blame London for every ill.

Salmond's "stop bulling Scotland" tactic isn't going to work when try to secure trade deals with Foreign leaders.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Speculation is certainly healthy for debate, Damien.

The fact remains, however, that an agreement has been signed ensuring "...the best interests of the people of Scotland and the rest of the United Kingdom." will be what is thrashed out after the outcome of the referendum is known - irrespective of what that eventual outcome might be.

What exactly that might involve is anyones guess.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Doesn't mean anything. Doesn't commit anyone to anything specific. The UK will look out for the UK, Scotland will look out for Scotland.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Most people would understand that, yes.

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Salmond is preaching to the converted the other 2 thirds think he's talking crap.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Well it'll be interesting to see what proportion of Scots get taken in by Salmond's dangerous nonsense and how quickly they come to regret it.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

There's an old saying "Better the devil you know than the devil you don't."
I'll take the one I don't know,he can't be any worse.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Tell us why Jimi as I am intrigued to what the current and past governments have done to make you feel this way?.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

There's rumour going around that Jimi's really an English Nationalist... :D

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Yes, he can - you are making a decision without basing it on factual information, just hope.....

Or are you and ABE?

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Basically,we have put in more than our fair share over the past 40 years to the economy,regardless of which party is in,neither NL or the Tories give a damn about us,we need tae beg for everything,why?

There's no rumour going around that your are nuts,its a fact.:p:

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Hugh,you often present a viable case for BT,I admire you for it even though I don't always agree with you.
In a way,you are correct,it is based on hope,lots of it,but if you don't have hope you have nothing.

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Thing is he can't actually answer with a factually based answer just a general one that sounds like it came straight from Salmond himself.

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See......
Fair share of what exactly?

What makes you say that they aren't giving a damn?

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Yes you'd have thought Jimi would have by now assembled a plethora of well reasoned and coherent arguments to support the Yes vote. Instead his rationale (if you can call it that) boils down to "better the devil you don't know"... :rofl:

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Exactly, I also found it totally laughable that he used that phrase but actually wants a yes vote.

To me that phrase is better suited to a no voter.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

To be fair to jimi, if you believe in Salmond, then hope's all you're ever going to have. http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1397843279 http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1397843279 http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1397843279

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:clap:

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If the Scots do vote for independence than a few years down the line it all goes tits-up I wonder who will pick the bill up and sort the mess out!

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

The Devil they don't know presumably, it won't be our problem.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Yup that'll be him but it'll be OK because Jimi knows his address... :D

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

There is none so blind as those who cannot see,its not Specsavers you require,its binoculars.

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The European Union,which by then will be minus Little Englanders hopefully.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

And you require a double dose of reality.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

The only reality I want is tae be free of money grabbers like Cameron,I also find it unbelievable that there are so many idiots down south who are again willing tae vote for those Tory *******s again,we up here in Scotland despise them,they are MOD EDIT.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Don't know if leaving the UK would be a good thing or not for Scotland in the long term but at least the Scottish people have a choice. Basing that choice on what Salmond say's though, that is baffling. The man makes the village idiot look like Einstein.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

And us "Idiots" down south can't believe there's voters in Scotland stupid enough to vote for the SNP. Luckily, there's not enough to actually win it. You're the leader of the stupid vote though jimi, just clueless. You have leaders with no ideas and no solution to anything, other than "It's bluff and bluster". Like you, he's very, very stupid and utterly clueless.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

You knock tory voters and yet you support the SNP, keep taking the medication Jimi it will work one day

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

You keep saying,like a parrot,SNP won't win,we will win,we were complete outsiders this time last year,16/1,I saw William Hill gives odds of 2/1 last week,mark my words, we are on our way.

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What have the Tories EVER done for Scotland eh!!!
SFA.
One elected member who will be kicked out come the next election,at least we up here vote for a party that is doing what we want,apart from the

http://fansagainstcriminalisation.blogspot.co.uk/

The SNP need tae change this act pronto.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

I'm a parrot! :rofl: Salmond's got his hand so far up your rear end it's probably tickling your tonsils.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

At least after the No campaign as won in September we will not see Jimi back on here, roll on September it cannot come fast enough :)

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Don't forget, Jimi's reached the very pinnacle of incisive political debate by following and preaching on behalf of the devil he doesn't know... :D

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

You'll hear me from Motherwell tae Penzance once we are free.

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...psshjsdqxw.gif

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Ok, there's a few scots people on here but only one who seems so sure that the yes vote will win. Bit of a rough and ready poll but does give an indication.

You mention forums that you frequent but it looks like a place where football hooligans hide.

To be quite frank Jimi if it wasn't for other people I know in Scotland I really wish you would get your way and then you could all celebrate in your own mire that you created.

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[QUOTE=Top banana;35690438]Ok, there's a few scots people on here but only one who seems so sure that the yes vote will win. Bit of a rough and ready poll but does give an indication.

You mention forums that you frequent but it looks like a place where football hooligans hide.

To be quite frank Jimi if it wasn't for other people I know in Scotland I really wish you would get your way and then you could all celebrate in your own mire that you created.

And by the way, we aren't idiots down South as you say.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

[QUOTE=Top banana;35690438]Ok, there's a few scots people on here but only one who seems so sure that the yes vote will win. Bit of a rough and ready poll but does give an indication.

You mention forums that you frequent but it looks like a place where football hooligans hide.

To be quite frank Jimi if it wasn't for other people I know in Scotland I really wish you would get your way and then you could all celebrate in your own mire that you created.

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Do you vote Tory,a very simple question.
If so,are you in with all those posh snobs like Osbourne,Johnson,Gove etc etc who are amongst the most despicable creatures God put on this planet.
Then again,they can take us all for a ride now,can't they !!! :(

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2603972/Watchdog-investigates-claims-gay-sex-party-Conservative-Party-conference-funded-taxpayer.html

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Yes, the most successful political union in history, which has delivered 300 years of political stability to the inhabitants of this island, should be dissolved because of something that might have happened in a Manchester hotel last autumn.

That really does just about sum up the intellectual prowess behind Scottish separatism.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

[QUOTE=Jimi;35690442]One day we will get a real well laid out and informative post from you Jimi, until then we will have to put up with your well laid out bull excreta ;)